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Old 26-09-2007, 17:22
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http://www.aldi.co.uk/

On sale Sunday this week:-

Seems good value?

My Daughter is a student & wants one!
Any comments?

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Old 26-09-2007, 22:12
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Only that it's a cheap tele, and probably won't be a very good picture - but as long as you're happy with the price?, and the picture is good enough?, it may do the job.
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Old 26-09-2007, 22:26
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imo, its not good value because the picture will be dire, its not even proper 16:9 widescreen, its a 16:10 PC monitor being rebranded and sold with a TV tuner glued on it (infact, 19" is smaller than my PC monitor).

Look at a 26" TV such as this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/131672 and consider a separate freeview box for it.

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Old 26-09-2007, 23:27
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imo, its not good value because the picture will be dire, its not even proper 16:9 widescreen, its a 16:10 PC monitor being rebranded and sold with a TV tuner glued on it (infact, 19" is smaller than my PC monitor).

Look at a 26" TV such as this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/131672 and consider a separate freeview box for it.

-Chris
Personally would not consider any TV this size without inbuilt freeview. I would be looking to mount this size TV on the wall in the kitchen perhaps and would not like the encumbrance/additional cabling of a STB. Your 26" alternative would be too big for this application.

AFAIK all TV's of this size on the market are 1440x900. The manufacturers should get their act together on this size TV as it represents the widescreen version of the classic 14/15" 4:3 CRT traditionally used in kitchens etc.

In respect of your proposed alternative I am frankly amazed that it is still permitted to sell units without DVB-T tuners unless there is a large sticker on the screen "WARNING THIS TV WILL SHORTLY BE OBSOLETE!"
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Old 27-09-2007, 09:50
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In respect of your proposed alternative I am frankly amazed that it is still permitted to sell units without DVB-T tuners unless there is a large sticker on the screen "WARNING THIS TV WILL SHORTLY BE OBSOLETE!"
Only in Whitehaven - anywhere else the TV will probably be scrapped before then!
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Old 27-09-2007, 10:20
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imo, its not good value because the picture will be dire, its not even proper 16:9 widescreen, its a 16:10 PC monitor being rebranded and sold with a TV tuner glued on it (infact, 19" is smaller than my PC monitor).

Look at a 26" TV such as this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/131672 and consider a separate freeview box for it.

-Chris
In the reviews of that TV two reviewers mention it has built in freeview weird
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Old 27-09-2007, 11:54
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In the reviews of that TV two reviewers mention it has built in freeview weird
Not unusual for eBuyer to actually deliver a totally different product to the one on the site - but this is usually a good thing!

It does make the choice of package 'freeview tuner and stand' look a bit odd though
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Old 27-09-2007, 13:45
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Only that it's a cheap tele, and probably won't be a very good picture - but as long as you're happy with the price?, and the picture is good enough?, it may do the job.

Well, what a student daughter wants, a student gets!
She'll be in the queue on Sun morning!

Actually, I know someone with the previous 19" version with DVD combi- (April 30th)
It wasn't HD ready, as this new one is, but the PQ was watchable, no problem.
Its used as a pc monitor now & it works very well.

I do understand that the pq won't satisfy the purist, but its good enough for a "normal" person - it's wall mountable & neat/cheap enough not to intrude into my life

Proof of pudding will be in eating no doubt!
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Old 27-09-2007, 16:13
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I do understand that the pq won't satisfy the purist, but its good enough for a "normal" person - it's wall mountable & neat/cheap enough not to intrude into my life
As long as you don't put it on side by side with a good set, she will probably be quite happy!
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Old 28-09-2007, 11:03
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As long as you don't put it on side by side with a good set, she will probably be quite happy!



Thats right! - Having said that, at £189., can you get a good (new) set with 3 yr warranty?

Ya gets what ya pay for!
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:45
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Just curious

I got one of these on Sunday from Aldi Glasgow (for Daughter whos at Glasgow Uni).

She's delighted with it & even picks up Freeview ok with a set top ariael

Just wondered if anybody else got one & what they think?

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Old 04-10-2007, 22:25
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Yes I bought one on Sunday too. Having read the spec very carefully the only thing I thought would be a problem was its 800:1 contrast ratio.
I wasn't a bit bothered that it was 16:10 not 16:9. I defy anybody who wasn't told this fact to even notice the difference.
I was delighted with my purchase bearing in mind that it included the 3 year guarantee which you might have to pay up to £80 for elsewhere.
I suspected that the inbuilt tuners wouldn't be the best quality you can get, and I found the UHF tuner excellent, but requiring a stronger signal than my previous TV to get a noise free picture.

The digital tuner too appears to have a requirement for a stronger signal than my other HD TV which has an external Wharfedale digital tuner.
When my Wharfedale tuner indicated a signal strength of 100% , the Medion connected to the same aerial point showed about 10 to 20% strength but still showed an excellent clear picture.

If I have any criticism of the digital tuners picture it would be in brightly lit studio shots where sometimes facial coloration does not seem to have the full range of tonal variations - so that shaded areas have that VCR tonal quality - where the appearance of sooty marks instead of subtle shaded zones are sometimes noticeable.

All in all I'm pleased with this set bearing in mind the price I paid and the reason I bought it - as a third TV in a bedroom for occasional use, which will still work when they turn off the UHF signal in a few years.
If I was that bothered about the digital tuner I could still add an external freeview box and still be in pocket.
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:34
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Do these sets also have a analogue tuner to receive Terrestrial services?
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:22
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Do these sets also have a analogue tuner to receive Terrestrial services?
Yes - it does also have an analogue tuner
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:30
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I bought one of these last Sunday from Aldi.

As mentioned above, the screen size is 1440:900, ie. 16:10 which seems to be typical of a PC TFT monitor.

The result of this is that the picture on most channels seems to be stretched vertically to fill the screen and, unlike the poster above, I noticed this immediately and found it annoying.

Playing around with the limited screen settings (16:9 or 4:3) only serves to compress or change the picture to other unnatural sizes. There are no other 'zoom' modes to help with the problem.

Whilst the picture quality and viewing angles seem acceptable for a cheap LCD TV, I'm not really happy about having a stretched picture.

I was surprised to find that other manufacturers also make LCDs of this size in 16:10, although Sony do a 20" LCD TV which is 1366x768 ie. 16:9.

Do they think that people will be prepared to put up with an unnatural picture resolution, or do they presume that most people won't be able to tell ?!

I'm just after any thoughts or experiences because I don't want to return this TV to Aldi if I end up having to pay twice as much in the future for a 'branded' TV that will have exactly the same issue !
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:39
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Mine suffers picture beak-up on Channel 5 even though the signal strength appears to be the same as other Mux's.
I have a Humax PVR and Toshiba Telly on the same aerial that have no problems at all.
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Old 06-10-2007, 14:27
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Do they think that people will be prepared to put up with an unnatural picture resolution,
Yes, because some of them only "see" the price.

How long have we endured the "I want it stretched to the edge" mentality ?

or do they presume that most people won't be able to tell ?!
Sadly yes, even after they have watched Star Wars

I'm just after any thoughts or experiences because I don't want to return this TV to Aldi if I end up having to pay twice as much in the future for a 'branded' TV that will have exactly the same issue !
You mentioned earlier that you found the aspect ratio annoying.

It just might drive you nuts after the "30 days No quibble returns" policy has expired.

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Old 07-10-2007, 07:54
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It just might drive you nuts after the "30 days No quibble returns" policy has expired.

Alan
You're right - that's why I returned the TV yesterday

There were actually a few other things wrong with it - the sound was far too tinny for my liking and the colour graduation on people's faces (as mentioned above) would sometimes be very poor and make them appear blotchy.

There was a potentially more serious problem with my set though - on a couple of occasions the picture disappeared completely and the only way of getting it back was to change channels or turn the TV off and on again. Not good.
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Old 05-06-2008, 16:13
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To anyone who had this TV, or still has it, can I just check that it is the same as this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/tevion-19-digi...QQcmdZViewItem) and does it do full 16:9 output, or does it do what my current Technika 19inch TV does and take the 16:9 picture, crop it to 4:3 and then blow that back up to 16:9 (cutting any information within a mile of the edges away and giving a super-zoomed picture)?
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Old 29-09-2008, 21:20
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Bought a new one (1901HT) this weekend. Not sure if it is the same or how does it differ from the last year's model. The screen size is the same with the aspect ratio 16:10.
For a "third" set in the dining room and considering it's price it seems to have good enough picture. One thing I noticed though is that the input sensitivity of digital and analog tuners seem to be lower than with my other receivers. Particularly, an analog tuner is definitely less sensitive than in my analog only TV I previously used in the same spot. I cannot get away with just an internal aerial as I did before.
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Old 30-09-2008, 12:43
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Bought a new one (1901HT) this weekend. Not sure if it is the same or how does it differ from the last year's model. The screen size is the same with the aspect ratio 16:10.
For a "third" set in the dining room and considering it's price it seems to have good enough picture. One thing I noticed though is that the input sensitivity of digital and analog tuners seem to be lower than with my other receivers. Particularly, an analog tuner is definitely less sensitive than in my analog only TV I previously used in the same spot. I cannot get away with just an internal aerial as I did before.

Difference between last years model and 1901- This has latest 1 chip solution which means tuning in of ATV & DTV is all in one- you dont have to tune in analogue & freeview seperately.
Better menu, clearer EPG- also your set has a CI slot if you wanted to subscribe to Top Up or Setanta or similar.

I checked against similar low price models in Argos/Dixons/Tesco.
Yours is better in as much slightly better pic quality, plus on the others you still have to tune Analogue & Freeview seperately- making your set easier to set up & use.
All sets use the same CMO panel, but, yours gave better pic performance -

I'd say its good value for the money.
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Old 30-09-2008, 19:34
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Thanks for pointing out the differences. I also think it is good value particularly considering it's price, 3 years warranty and good picture performace when compared to other similar low price models. I still prefer CRT picture on my old analog 15" TV but that is a different story.
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