OK - so I've won the "is WiFi appropriate" argument and now we're onto challenging the semantics of the thread title.

Having dabbled with another STB which has WiFi access, I know that (even having to run software on another PC) the ease of operation far outweighs any disadvantages.

What argument? Has anyone said different?

Err, no. Where did you get that idea? I'd already questioned your choice of title on the first page of the thread.

Let's get back to the argument then. You reckon it's easy to setup. Maybe it is when it's a PC and it's had the might of Microsoft, Apple or the open source community developing the software, but have a read of the setting up your wireless TF6000 thread. There are at least 3 people having trouble and some of the posts are full of techie settings that'd scare the pants off your average consumer. One chap could only get his unit talking to his router with security turned off.

Compare that to your average ethernet experience. Plug in the cable, start copying the files.

I wonder if rhubarbe ever got his TF6000 connected.

Simon, please stop presenting evidence to backup your viewpoint. You're setting a bad example.

On an unrelated note, isn't the new case for the TF5815 really nice? I'm glad they've put the hard disk in a nice caddy at the front, too, although I did think the bluetooth connectivity (for your mobile phone) and .rec to iPod conversion (for movies on the go) were a bit over the top. Not something I'd use, but there are so many millions out there that might that they were pretty much forced to add them.

I particularly like the TF5815 feature that, when disc space gets low, auto-deletes programmes that the unit can see are going to be repeated next year...

K

Yeah, you've heard of Tivo's 'keep at most' feature. Topfield have patented the 'keep me guessing' and 'keep me on my toes' features. Core to this is the provision of a wireless connection that allows you (or anyone on your street) to pull recordings off your 5815.5g onto a laptop before the device deletes random sections of each programme. You'll be glad when your neighbour comes round with a DVD containing that missing segment from Buxom Wenches Unleashed on channel 98 last Tuesday

I'm mostly looking forward to the feature that automatically repeats really complicated scenes that I am too thick to understand the first time around and automatically puts subtitles up when the neigbours are playing their loud music.

Ah, I have inside info that this will be a feature in the upcoming 5820.5g model which will be released two months after the 5815.5g. Of course, the firmware shipped with the model will not fully support that feature set, but a firmware patch created by the AutoPatchFirmware TAP will be available soon after the unit goes on sale.

There have been rumours of a problem that, if you and your neighbour both have a 5815 running wifi, then the two units will notice when the other is getting too loud and increase the volume on your set accordingly...

K

I've seen the prototype though, they've excelled themselves with usability, improving the hugely irritation CYR message. When your neighbour's Toppy tries to record Eastenders after Coronation Street, yours asks 'Check neighbour reservation. Channel may not be a record. Delete all? OK/Cancel'

Guys - come on!!!!! I'm starting to wish Ianmoticon would come back...

Glen.

Maybe you'll change your mind when I tell you that the new case is shaped like a lovely fluffy puppy dog with big baleful eyes? That's going to look classy in the hifi cabinet