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Why Did Anyone Think Sunday Results Show A Good Idea ?
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Pandora33
07-10-2007
It could be good. More pro dancing is never a bad thing. And the results show at 9pm on Saturday always clashed with something else I wanted to watch.
tallulah gosh
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
“I read an e-mail that the BBC sent someone and they said that it was due to two reasons

1) After doing research they found that people wanted to see more pro and normal dancing in the results show and so they have moved to Sunday so that they can extend the show and make the results section a show in it's own right.

2) After more research they found that many people go out on a Saturday night and so miss the results show. Also kids need to go to bed and they don't want them to miss out as it is a family show.

I agree with the ideas for doing it, but I just don't think it works. I would love to see more pro dancing - but why couldn't they just extend the show, whilst keeping it on Saturday night?”

Point number two is hilarious. After research the BBC have found out people go out on a Saturday night!!!! Show a repeat on BBC2 or 3 like the X Factor is repeated don't just not show it on Saturday at all.
PinkGlitter
07-10-2007
Im going to be opposite to most people on the forum and say that I actually quite like the idea of Sunday results. Mainly because we will get to see more pro dancing and because there is usually something else I want to watch on at 9 O'Clock.
Erinfan
07-10-2007
I should have said in my original post that the problem was people go out after the first show - not just that they go out on a Saturday night overall. Of course people can record, but they are interested in ratings. This was the BBC e-mail I read on another forum:


Thank you for your e-mail regarding 'Strictly Come Dancing'.

I understand that you are unhappy that the format of the show has changed and the results show will now be broadcast on a Sunday. If I can explain the rationale behind the changes, putting the results on a Sunday means we can extend the show to include more of what we feel the audience wants. This includes more dancing and also footage from behind the scenes. There is as much of an appetite for light entertainment and family viewing on Sundays as there is on Saturdays.

'Strictly Come Dancing' is a family show but quite often people go out after the main programme on Saturdays or children go to bed so they miss the results due to the transmission time. We feel moving the results to Sundays and extending the show means that all the family can catch up with what happens. We also know there is a real appetite for more 'Strictly Come Dancing' so extending the results means we can include more of what we feel the audience wants such as more dancing and behind the scenes footage.

The viewers and judges vote is still vital to keep your favourite contestant in the competition. But following audience research we found that viewers appreciate the expert knowledge of the judges and like them to make decisions about who stays and goes. We have decided to try something new and following the viewers and judges vote to determine which two couples are in the bottom, the judges will make the final decision based purely on the repeat performance in the results show.

We must add that the viewers vote is really important as it will determine who is in the bottom two so they must vote to keep their favourites out of the danger zone. But it will then be up to the judges to save one of the bottom two couples.

I would like to assure you that we have registered your comments on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.

Thank you once again for contacting us.

Regards

Richard Carey
BBC Information


Sorry, whilst I can relate to the reasons - I just don't think the show works on a Sunday as the results are going to leak every week. They can't record it live on Sunday as Bruno and Len are flying to the States - if you can't do the Sunday show live, don't have it on Sunday in my opinion.
mindyann
07-10-2007
I agree with that. I know they have 2 shows in America but at least there the results are revealed on the second show for real.

The results are all - and if you know them, then it takes the edge off the show, as well as the reason for watching it in the first place.

And I'm still not sure that I agree with the judges chosing who actually goes anyway!
PinkGlitter
07-10-2007
I think having the judges choose from the final two is definitely a good idea, as it prevents people like Fiona Phillips staying in the show at the expense of other, better, dancers.
janemarie
07-10-2007
The reason for America broadcasting two shows is for the amount of viewers votes that come through the system.
Whereas here in a much smaller country I don't think there is any need for it. IMO the BBC should have left alone the idea of two shows but keeping the new voting format.
Cajone1963
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by Amy Slymouse:
“It would only make sense if the results show was shown live.

As it is, they recorded it all last night, and so that sense of excitement, whether you know the result or not, is lost a bit.”

I feel exactly the same.

The thing is I like to go on the internet and read peoples opinions about the show. I purposely avoided the 'Results Spoiler' thread but low and behold it was all over the other threads relating to the dancer who went out. The thing is I will now tune in but it just wont be the same.

Whether it is Saturday or Sunday the results show should be live.
quackaquacka
07-10-2007
In America, it makes sense to have the results the next day because of time zones and voting.

I wouldn't even care if it was live on Sunday, but it isn't so it's rubbish.
mindyann
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by PinkGlitter:
“I think having the judges choose from the final two is definitely a good idea, as it prevents people like Fiona Phillips staying in the show at the expense of other, better, dancers.”

But that's who - or what people are voting for, isn't it. If the judges haven't worked out by now that them giving a couple a hard time = that couple staying in longer then there's no hope for them

When it comes down to it, and the reason most people watch it, is that it's good, family Saturday night entertainment for Charity, and if people are spending their money on either their favourite contestant or favourite dancer to keep them in, then that decision should be honoured.

In the long run, what is the benefit in terms of income generation, of having someone who is unpopular with the voters and not getting the votes staying over someone who - although in the bottom 2 - can rake in far more in revenue even though technically not as competent dance wise? All the winners have been deserving and a few rouge results along the way just add to the show (and that is speaking as someone who has never really forgiven Julian for being in the final over Aled ).

I just hope they don't regret taking that element of unpredictability away from the show.
PinkGlitter
07-10-2007
Yes, but if a couple is in the bottom two then they clearly aren't getting huge amounts of votes. And so the judges then "booting out" the worst dancer will make no significant difference to the amount of votes. On top of that, as we get further into the competition we will hav only the best dancers remaining.

I have to say though, i really hope when it gets to the final it is all shown on saturday night.
Paace
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I find the wait 'till Sunday annoying, but it does give people more time to vote after seeing all the performances, which should reduce any effects of who went first, last, etc.

Edit: ... Hmm. It says in another thread that voting lines are open for only 2 hours anyway? ”

The phone lines close at 9:30 pm Sat.
Seymour
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by PinkGlitter:
“I think having the judges choose from the final two is definitely a good idea, as it prevents people like Fiona Phillips staying in the show at the expense of other, better, dancers.”

Welcome PinkGlitter! IMO your post is spot on. We the audience will have had our say and will have found the bottom two, then it is up to the experts as to who they think should go.
Lippincote
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by Cajone1963:
“I feel exactly the same.

The thing is I like to go on the internet and read peoples opinions about the show. I purposely avoided the 'Results Spoiler' thread but low and behold it was all over the other threads relating to the dancer who went out. The thing is I will now tune in but it just wont be the same.

Whether it is Saturday or Sunday the results show should be live.”

I agree - I was so afraid of finding the result by accident that this was the only thread I opened before I watched the results show.
Dancer Scout
07-10-2007
Personally I am fine with the Sunday show - more Strictly, more dancing (especially pro group dances) and means I can go out on Saturday night without worrying about the results
pasodabble
07-10-2007
I too am in agreement with the judges having the final say. My ideal SCD is everything on saturday night as before, judges having the final say and the pros doing one or 2 group performance of the dances which will be featured the following week. And no invited singers!
sky active
08-10-2007
By going on SCD, the celebrities know its going to be hard work and a lot to commit too... so why cant they all turn up on a Sunday night and then do the show live? Also, it would allow more people to get tickets as they could go to either the saturday or sunday show!
jacquiann
08-10-2007
Originally Posted by sky active:
“By going on SCD, the celebrities know its going to be hard work and a lot to commit too... so why cant they all turn up on a Sunday night and then do the show live? Also, it would allow more people to get tickets as they could go to either the saturday or sunday show!”

Because as a previous poster metioned, Len & Bruno leave on Sunday to go to Hollywood. They have to be there for Monday nights live show of "Dancing With The Stars".
Apparently it takes just over 11 hours to fly to LAX from London & Hollywood is 8 hours behind us time-wise. Gives the two judges a couple of hours to get to their accomodation & then have a nice meal & a good nights sleep (if they can). I'd say the production team would want them in their trailers & on set quite early on Mon though - I don't envy them the jet-lag & stress. They must be earning good wongers to be doing all that every week.
FUDK27
08-10-2007
I don't mind the results show being on Sundays, actually I prefer it.

But the show isn't live, it's pre-recorded. The phone lines are only open for two hours until 9pm!!(on Sat) They then record it Saturday night which is an awful idea. The show on Sunday should be LIVE. Isn't this for Children in need? Profits from phone votes go to Children In Need phone lines should be left open all night then closed at the start of the LIVE SHOW on Sunday night!! I may complain to the BBC and see what they say!!

Edit - just read previous post....in this case the results should be stay on a Saturday.
thenetworkbabe
08-10-2007
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“The BBC had nothing else to put in that slot and decided (based upon the replay show last year) that another SCD show will get decent ratings.

Also a possibility that they have to spend longer verifying the results and so if they were to show the results live on Saturday they would go out too late - we'll have to ask those who were there what time they finished.”

Add to which there are zero costs. everyone is there , the lights are on, the cameras are warm. They can fill most of the second show with repeated edits of the first. Its very cheap in both senses.

A minor side effect is that it splits the judges comments on the dancers for a day from their decision who goes which makes it look more objective if they have gone OTT on anyone. The big change is that the judges are deciding who goes to stop some of the public vote nonsenses of the last two years and they may have needed to change the whole set up so people didn't notice that the judges now have far more control.
solare
08-10-2007
The results show was better on a Saturday. The excitment is definitely lost when it's not live.

As for the extra "behind the scenes" footage - what exactly do they mean by this? If it's footage of dance practises then OK But it seems to be endless boring interviews with contestants and their familiies and friends, same old questions, same old answers - just being used to pad out the program.
Elzbells
08-10-2007
Instead of trying to pass off the pre-recorded results show as live which just isn't working, why don't they go the whole hog and change it to an Apprentice style format which although recorded and edited still maintains a great deal of tension. Just seems to me that SCD can't have it both ways, if they want to maintain the drama of a live broadcast then it must go back to its original structure.
caclin
08-10-2007
I actually think that the issue is not the Sunday broadcast but the fact that it is not live. As was pointed out yesterday this means a few bloopers in the comments which detracts from the pleasure of watching. I would vote for the old format and a repeat on Sunday with more professional dances - that doesn't need to be live
DebbieH
08-10-2007
A major concern I have is if the extra work load leads to lower quality dancing and a chance of more injuries. Saturday nights were already tiring for pros and celebs alike, now I bet they’ll be exhausting. If I remember correctly everybody flagged a little last year under the work load, even a couple of the pros found it hard, didn’t Camilla hurt her knee or something because she over did it? Vincent also hurt himself as well didn’t he? Maybe these injuries were nothing to do with tiredness, but surely people are more susceptible to injuries when they are tired.

I’m really concerned that these even long nights and the extra work will tire people out and the standard will slip, it would be a shame when there is quite a bit of potential both with the girls and boys this year. Quantity over quality is never a good thing, remember last years final, too may dances to do and the standard suffered a bit for it.

Anyway, been awake all night off to bed now!
dancingbearbear
08-10-2007
Originally Posted by marieofromania:
“Does anyone know - are the judges making their decision on the dance-off alone?”

Craig didn't ~ he said he chose Brian as he had more potential despite making more mistakes.
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