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Brendon Cole is NOT a teacher
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SCD-Observer
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“Brendan never did a james and told a partner they were fat!”

You have to admit, Brendan is a passionate and emotional guy and sometimes said things he shouldn't have said. There are four series of SCD to prove that point.

But he really got a chance with Kelly this year, it seems. I hope neither he nor Kelly blow it!
dinosaur05
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by dancingfan:
“How did James get dragged into this”


I just want to say to dancingfan that Im glad she/he )although I think you are a she, am I right?)has a great sense of humour and perspective on this forum! I know you are a huge Jordans fan but you dont go bananas if anyone dares to say anything negative about your fave dancers!

I think a few of us (myself included) could take a leaf out of your book!
musicangel
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“You have to admit, Brendan is a passionate and emotional guy and sometimes said things he shouldn't have said. There are four series of SCD to prove that point.

But he really got a chance with Kelly this year, it seems. I hope neither he nor Kelly blow it! ”

Goodpoint! Same could be said for me! I yell sometimes at people I care about! if its somat Im passionate about! so to behonest know a portion how he feels!

Id rather have someone being themselve wartsand all so to speak that all soft and fluffy and b***ing behind the sceneswhich they ALL do!! apart from brendan they all do it behind their backs! which for me is appauling!
dancingfan
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“I just want to say to dancingfan that Im glad she/he )although I think you are a she, am I right?)has a great sense of humour and perspective on this forum! I know you are a huge Jordans fan but you dont go bananas if anyone dares to say anything negative about your fave dancers!

I think a few of us (myself included) could take a leaf out of your book! ”

Thank you Much appreciated - I am female - I love James but I am aware he has his faults (as we all do)

thanks again -very kind of you
FelineFantastic
07-10-2007
In the paper and therefore must be true! Try selective reporting like the selective editing that the Beeb uses every year to make certain people look like saints and some devils- if last year was anything to go by Maren were suicidal most of the time and they were lucky to get through a week!

I think Brendan is the same as the rest but while Lilia is the Russian Minx and Erin is Miss Whiplash why are the men all mad and bad.

Good luck to Brendan and Kelly and I'd love to say good luck to James too but I can't stand his partner!
Last edited by FelineFantastic : 07-10-2007 at 17:48
musicangel
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“In the paper and therefore must be try! Try selective reporting like the selective editing that the Beeb uses every year to make certain people look like saints and some devils- if last year was anything to go by Maren were suicidal most of the time and they were lucky to get through a week!

I think Brendan is the same as the rest but while Lilia is the Russian Minx and Erin is Miss Whiplash why are the men all mad and bad.

Good luck to Brendan and Kelly and I'd love to say good luck to James too but I can't stand his partner!”

Great comment!!
Stella Street
07-10-2007
Having read this in the mirror it looks like, in this case, an excuse to print a pic of Kelly in a bikini. But I won't be surprised if they do end up having a bust up in future weeks as there have been with his previous partners.
With the standard of the female celebs all the male pros are going to be under added pressure.
SCD-Observer
07-10-2007
I have to say at the rate this is going, there is NO WAY the male celebs are going to be hanging around after week 7 or 8!

Brendan, please behave and Kelly, just DANCE!
hiua6c
07-10-2007
I am teacher (admittedly not a dance one) but i can get frustrating sometimes when your in the classroom especially if a pupils not trying and that's with out someone shoving a camera up my nose!

If Brendan is a bad dancer ode to the competitions he won then be default so is Camila (as we all know she isn't) as he won those titles with her!!

The press love to play on any stories that come out of SCD and it detracts from the dancing - and besides Fiona would have driven a Saint to distraction!
Paace
07-10-2007
It makes me laugh how some want to blame the Press, the BBC, the editing when we all know who is to blame. We will see on ITT how serious was this bust up between them.

They way he treated Fiona Phillips and Sarah Manners was deplorable. He seems to forget they are complete novices and expect them to dance like pros.

What really angers me is that this is an introduction to the world of dancing for complete beginners and should be so enjoyable and not have them tearful and afraid and wanting to quit because of a bully.

Some people like Anton, Ian and Darren are great teachers and make it so enjoyable. Other people like Brendon are not cut out to be teachers.
Lemon Lyman
07-10-2007
If you really believe what is printed in the Sunday Mirror then you are barking.

I personally believe the likes of Kaos and Musicangel who have met the guy and have been taught by him.

Sarah Manners and Fiona Philips would drive the patience of saints. You could see from the footage that they were not trying - they just thought the competition was a bit of fun. I don't think any of the males pros would have kept their temper with them.

In series one Len and co praised Brendan for making Natasha look so good!

I read on SKY that Kelly was having a crisis of confidence which you can't blame on Brendan. She must be under so much pressure with all the press reports saying she is favourite.

They seemed really comfortable with one another last night and having fun.

Remember the papers reported Anton and Patsy never got on.

Can we stop the character assult on Brendan please - none of us knows what really happens. Just what the BBC want us to know to boast the ratings.
hiua6c
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by Paace:
“It makes me laugh how some want to blame the Press, the BBC, the editing when we all know who is to blame. We will see on ITT how serious was this bust up between them.

They way he treated Fiona Phillips and Sarah Manners was deplorable. He seems to forget they are complete novices and expect them to dance like pros.

What really angers me is that this is an introduction to the world of dancing for complete beginners and should be so enjoyable and not have them tearful and afraid and wanting to quit because of a bully.

Some people like Anton, Ian and Darren are great teachers and make it so enjoyable. Other people like Brendon are not cut out to be teachers.”

Fiona, Sarah, Claire and Kelly had ALL seen the previous series and knew what they were getting into and the point of this competition correct me if I'm wrong is to get them to dance like pro's!

Calling someone you've never met a bully - via tv/media coverage is a very serious allegation when Brendan has gone to far he's apologiesed (Sarah S2) he wants the best out of them as all the pros do

Besides NO ONE is making the celebs do it!
TitchyN
07-10-2007
I'm sorry I have to say something. I have had lessons with Brendan...when I started lessons with him I was a complete novice I had probably danced for about 2 weeks. He did nothing but encourage me and now I can dance and hold myself like a dancer. If Brendan was anything like is often made out I would never have gone back. You shouldn't judge people by what you see on the Television.

Sorry for the rant!
FelineFantastic
07-10-2007
Well said Lemon.

Paace you clearly want to only believe the worst of Brendan and if you don't believe that the Beeb selectively edit then I can only assume that you were present for every hour of his training sessions with Fiona and Sarah- both of whom are very happy to milk their situation for every penny but you have nothin bad to say about them.

I am sure that Anton, Brendan and Ian are not all fantastic all of the time- in fact I remember that Zoe was crying in many of her VT's- no-one is a saint teacher or pupil.

Kelly has a lot of pressure on her at the moment with this programme and there are bound to be issues but as many people have said how great a time her and Brendan and Billy were having yesterday may I suggest that the papers are milking the same old story with a different paper.

Go for it Brendan and kelly I say
MegaDancer
07-10-2007
Not really sticking up for Brendan - like him OK but not OTT - however, sometimes people need a boot up the backside to get them going. alas sometimes it don't work!
moorchild
07-10-2007
I am sure that when there's nothing at stake and his competitiveness aren't in the mix, Brendan can be sweet and charming - he'd be pretty one-dimensional otherwise, and I can't see him as that. I think the problems start when his need to win and look good in performance are at stake. There has been considerable publicity about how badly Brendan treated all his Strictly partners and last week I read an article in Woman magazine by Claire King (allegedly) who said he was fairly hard going and very selfish. For the record, I don't read mazagines much and bought it on an impulse as there was a Strictly article inside! I'm sure it wasn't all Brendan's fault but as has been said before, I get the impression Brendan isn't cut out to work with what he's got for a show like this. Of course you can't believe all you read in the media but is every one of his celebrity partners lying? If it's a big campaign against him maybe Brendan should sue?

Sure, no-one makes the celebs do it - but on the other hand they don't know who they're getting either.
blobby1
07-10-2007
Sorry, but I have to stand up for Brendan here. He's a good man and fantastic teacher with exceptions of Matthew Cutler and I wouldn't change him as my teacher for anyone. He's very kind and has never shouted or been nasty, he doesn't like time wasters or people booking just one-off lessons to meet him or get an autograph, which I totally agree with him.
Lemon Lyman
07-10-2007
The trouble with Claire King is that she is just milking the Brendan story for the money. She has done nothing since the show of any significance and her autobiography was a failure (probably because she was slagging Bob Geldof off in it).

Obviously desperate.
hiua6c
07-10-2007
I think what has become apparent is that Brendan the teacher and Brendan the SCD competitor are different what is on screen is not what those people who go to him for lessons in reality get. I can totally understand him being upset by time wasters I would think a lot of the pros would be

Lemon - I agree why would anyone want Claire's book don't think I've ever seen it in a shop! And Fiona was just dire!
blobby1
07-10-2007
All I can say is Brendan is very sweet and people shouldn't remark on him unless they actually know him, he's fantastic!
The only person that is the same on screen as he is off screen is Matthew and is the best.
peely
07-10-2007
I don't think anyone has been as bad as Fiona, even Quentin Wilson or Chris Parker. She just flopped about like a rag doll, with no rhythm at all. That said, she was quite entertaining.

What is on screen is about 0.005% of heavily edited footage, which the Beeb knows will make the show more exciting, even as it alters people's reputations.
EmilyIRE
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
“My main issue with Brendan is that I do think he is guilty of choreographing for himself rather than for his partner's ability.”

I agree with you there. But on the initial post, I would disagree. You could easily construe that report as Kelly being unwilling to put in the practice and wanting to give up at the drop of a hat. I think Brendan can be slightly too demanding, but he has had some awfully temperamental partners. Having said that, he doesn't deal with them as well as some others, like Anton too.
sergeik
07-10-2007
I'm no fan of Brendan by any means, but at least when he has pupils who come to him to learn how to dance, they want to do just that, learn how to dance. On the show his pupils could be doing the show for a variety of different reasons, and perhaps when you aren't getting as much back from your pupil as you are putting in its not easy for you. I'll reserve judgement on James for the moment. However, everyone learns differently some people need a strict no nonsense teacher, others need praise and encouragement and for their faults not to be pointed out to them so much. a teachers success comes from finding out how their pupils works best and exploiting that.
shellshell
07-10-2007
i think the reason a lot of people dislike brendan is because he speaks his mind. everyone else talks behind peoples backs and no-one gets to see it or hear about it.
but if brendan has a problem he will say.-i like honest people

and whoever said hes only won a couple of championships that people never enter!!
i am sorry to say but thats probably more than what you have acheived!! so think before you speak next time!
hiua6c
07-10-2007
Originally Posted by shellshell:
“i think the reason a lot of people dislike brendan is because he speaks his mind. everyone else talks behind peoples backs and no-one gets to see it or hear about it.
but if brendan has a problem he will say.-i like honest people

and whoever said hes only won a couple of championships that people never enter!!
i am sorry to say but thats probably more than what you have acheived!! so think before you speak next time!”

Totally agree Brendan's honesty is refreshing better that he says what he thinks than tells his partner one thing only for them to get shot down by the judges on the Saturday
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