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How many tracks can you actually get on?
hi all,
i'm planning on buying an 80gb iPod classic in a couple of weeks (pay-day!). the bumf claims that it can get up to 20,000 songs on it in aac format. i have two questions; 1) is aac the best format to use (as i am going to double up and back up all my music to the hard drive as i'm loading the iPod)? 2) whichever format i use, how many tracks do you think i'm going to get on to the iPod? (i realise that this is wildly variant depending on track type/length etc, but i'm after rough ideas). Cheers for any help,
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AAC is the best format for the iPod as they are smaller
You would probably be looking at approx 3.5 meg per song, so for 20,000 songs thats about 70gig give or take as I didnt use exact conversion and some songs will be bigger/smaller |
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thanks for that,
what is the score with aac in terms of hard disk back up? if i am going to back up my CD collection i want to make sure it is in the best quality format possible
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AAC will go upto 320kbps (I use 160kbps MP3 which i believe is the equivalent of AAC 128kbps)
So AAC would give you a smaller file than MP3 (same sound quality) You could easily double the rate but this would then only give about 10,000 on you ipod I have transferred all my CDs onto the computer at the above rate, and for me I have no problems with the sound also bar in mind about compatibility, not sure what else uses AA format if you ever change |
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AAC is the best format for the iPod as they are smaller
You would probably be looking at approx 3.5 meg per song, so for 20,000 songs thats about 70gig give or take as I didnt use exact conversion and some songs will be bigger/smaller I tried doing some of my tracks in AAC to compare them to MP3 format in size there is very little in it. You may save a couple of MB in an album but that's it. |
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Rubbish. The 20,000 songs is IF they are 4 minutes or less and ripped in AAC format at 64kbps.
I tried doing some of my tracks in AAC to compare them to MP3 format in size there is very little in it. You may save a couple of MB in an album but that's it. thats at 128 AAC |
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I would keep your backup in mp3 format as this is the most compatible format out there and therefore likely to last the longest. HDD space is cheap these days so you can use a high bit rate e.g. 320kbps mp3.
On the ipod itself use AAC as this seems to be a more efficient codec. if you ever switch to a non-apple mp3 player then your mp3s can be converted to wma which are also more efficient that mp3. |
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Just calculated my library
Mostly 160kbps MP3 but also some 128kbps AAC files, I would get just over 19,000 songs on 80gig |
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so,
does this mean in real terms i am looking at 10,000 tracks at a decent quality and 20 at a lower qaulity. does the iPod except mp3's?
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The best thing todo is try the options and see what quality sounds best for you
The iPod plays MP3 fine Put one song into iTunes at 160kbps MP3 and the same track at 320kbps MP3 see if it sounds better |
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I would keep your backup in mp3 format as this is the most compatible format out there and therefore likely to last the longest. HDD space is cheap these days so you can use a high bit rate e.g. 320kbps mp3.
On the ipod itself use AAC as this seems to be a more efficient codec. if you ever switch to a non-apple mp3 player then your mp3s can be converted to wma which are also more efficient that mp3. if fact (sorry, quesitons are flowing now!), what is the best program to use to rip CD's to a hard drive in terms of qaulity?
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iTunes will rip the cd to AAC or MP3 (you can choose)
It then transfers them at this rate ovr to the iPod |
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iTunes will rip the cd to AAC or MP3 (you can choose)
It then transfers them at this rate ovr to the iPod |
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so it doesnt convert harddrive mp3's into aac's to go onto the iPod?
I cant remember how the import works, but if you tell iTunes you want your songs in AAC or MP3, when you import songs (or rip a cd) they will be in this format Doing this you can easily convert your MP3 into AAC (you dont need to though) |
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thanks for all your help paul
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thanks for all your help paul
![]() If you get the classic can you post to say what you think of it, I am tempted by one myself (to replace my nano) |
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No Problem
If you get the classic can you post to say what you think of it, I am tempted by one myself (to replace my nano) I had to boost ALL my track sound levels up so they can actually be heard at a decent enough low level. There are still a few bugs, which it seems Apple can't be bothered to iron out. It doesn't always display the art work. Plus unless you have brightness up on full you'll always get a screen saver of a poxy clock showing. The clock even if you set it to show 24 Hour clock will always display in 12 hr. The cover flow while a good idea, is still buggy if you have lots of compilation albums. I'd wait a few months till they have ironed out the ton of bugs. |
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Just calculated my library
Mostly 160kbps MP3 but also some 128kbps AAC files, I would get just over 19,000 songs on 80gig |
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if i am going to back up my CD collection i want to make sure it is in the best quality format possible
If you want to retain maximum quality you should use a lossless format. Apple do their own version (not supported by anything else) or FLAC is another option (not supported by iPod). Both are high quality formats but also take up more space. About 50% the size of the original WAV file for FLAC, not sure what the ratio is for Apple Lossless. Obviously, if you were using Apple Lossless on an 80gb iPod you wouldn't get anywhere near 20,000 tracks on it ... |
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No Problem
If you get the classic can you post to say what you think of it, I am tempted by one myself (to replace my nano) |
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... in which case you don't want to use MP3 or AAC.
If you want to retain maximum quality you should use a lossless format. Apple do their own version (not supported by anything else) or FLAC is another option (not supported by iPod). Both are high quality formats but also take up more space. About 50% the size of the original WAV file for FLAC, not sure what the ratio is for Apple Lossless. Obviously, if you were using Apple Lossless on an 80gb iPod you wouldn't get anywhere near 20,000 tracks on it ... |
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