I, too, have suffered with tendonitis (but in my wrist). I was off work for almost 4 weeks and couldn't even drive as the pain was so awful. Couldn't get a decent grip on the steering wheel so extremely unwise to even attempt to drive in the circumstances.
Why is Kate still in there??
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Originally Posted by Castanet:
“I, too, have suffered with tendonitis (but in my wrist). I was off work for almost 4 weeks and couldn't even drive as the pain was so awful. Couldn't get a decent grip on the steering wheel so extremely unwise to even attempt to drive in the circumstances.”
“I, too, have suffered with tendonitis (but in my wrist). I was off work for almost 4 weeks and couldn't even drive as the pain was so awful. Couldn't get a decent grip on the steering wheel so extremely unwise to even attempt to drive in the circumstances.”
Me too.....see post 37....I can`t believe she is going to dance......... Madness.....I wonder if they`ll give her anti-inflamatory steroid injections. If she was a sportswoman who was injured she`d be rested for weeks before starting training. If her tendonitis is as bad as their making out, she will have been given poor medical advice if she dances.
A friend of mine had to change her career because she suffered recurrent bouts of tendonitis as a result of her job (landscape gardener).
So is she definatly dancing tonight now. As much as I like her I hope she goes this week shes weeks behind in training and it will be damaging to her to continue and it would be unfair on the others if someone else goes this week and then she pulls out next
Just reading on the news page that if she dances tonight she'll almost certainly have to pull out if by some miracle she gets through tonights show. Seems ridiculous to me, and unfair to Anton. The decision on this should have been made weeks ago, when her tendonitis first came to light. I don't know anything about the injury myself, but from what others on this board have been saying, it's pretty much guaranteed to need a lot of rest, which she would have known she wouldn't get. Didn't Louisa start training later than the other competitors last year, because she was on holiday or something? Surely they could have got a replacement for Kate two weeks ago. Now it just means Anton will have the same fate as Flavia last year.
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“" I have been told by doctors if there is any sharp pain I should stop."
"Obviously I don't want to do any lasting damage. That's not in anybody's interest and has got to be the priority." ”
“" I have been told by doctors if there is any sharp pain I should stop."
"Obviously I don't want to do any lasting damage. That's not in anybody's interest and has got to be the priority." ”
Least she has got her priorities right
Originally Posted by La Rhumba:
“Anton & Lesley hit it off big time. But you can't keep comparing all his partners to her, as they will come up short in one area or another. I remember there was alot of anger directed toward Patsy on the forum at the time, and I felt for her. From your percentages she isn't that far behind Lesley, and for someone with no natural ability or inate musical rhythm, that's not bad. 
TBH Anton's choreo for most of her Latin was dire.
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“Anton & Lesley hit it off big time. But you can't keep comparing all his partners to her, as they will come up short in one area or another. I remember there was alot of anger directed toward Patsy on the forum at the time, and I felt for her.
From your percentages she isn't that far behind Lesley, and for someone with no natural ability or inate musical rhythm, that's not bad. TBH Anton's choreo for most of her Latin was dire.
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I totally agree about comparing Anton's partners to Lesley. I guess we all do this a bit, but I think people wishing for someone like her again is probably wrong. To try and recreate that partnership is not possible, and I do feel the BBC were hoping for that with Jan last year. There was a lot of stuff before the series started with people thinking they might be similar (maybe because Jan did impressions of Lesley!) and it was just not to be.
As for Kate, I am still not liking all the publicity surrounding her injury. Looks like she is dancing tonight, but do they have to make such a meal of it?!
If she is definitely suffering from tendonitis then there is no way she can continue in the competition. Having a painkilling injection to get through tonight is one thing, but I can't see how she can carry on after that. If she does, then it will be a miracle. I really think if she ends up in the bottom 2 then the judges would be a fool to save her. And I'm an Anton fan so it pains me to say that!
The quickstep is a staccato, percussive dance, all the vertical body weight placed on a small surface of tiptoe. Anton has got to be kidding. There has to be a chance of stoppage mid-dance.
"Kate Garraway to dance tomorrow night - but still expects to pull out of Strictly Come Dancing" From
aily Mail 12/10/07.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773
To be fair to all it looks like Kate will make it known before dancing tonight that she will withdraw after "dancing" tonight to make a point, in order to save her limb long term. It would seem unfair and pointless for a public sympathy vote to keep Kate out of the bottom two and eliminate another woman who has put in 90 hours of practice in order to stay in -- when Kate will eliminate herself after tonight whatever the vote. If the public are made aware on TV they would vote accordingly.
"Kate Garraway to dance tomorrow night - but still expects to pull out of Strictly Come Dancing" From
aily Mail 12/10/07.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773
To be fair to all it looks like Kate will make it known before dancing tonight that she will withdraw after "dancing" tonight to make a point, in order to save her limb long term. It would seem unfair and pointless for a public sympathy vote to keep Kate out of the bottom two and eliminate another woman who has put in 90 hours of practice in order to stay in -- when Kate will eliminate herself after tonight whatever the vote. If the public are made aware on TV they would vote accordingly.
I too think it's obvious that even if Kate isn't eliminated tonight she will withdraw from the competition, which makes a public vote pretty pointless.
If she states she is going to withdraw before dancing then they should just give all the others a bye through to next week and not have a vote.
It's so obviouse that she'll be in the bottom two and the judges will say that they are choosing her to go as they don't want her to risk any further injury.
If she states she is going to withdraw before dancing then they should just give all the others a bye through to next week and not have a vote.
It's so obviouse that she'll be in the bottom two and the judges will say that they are choosing her to go as they don't want her to risk any further injury.
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“I too think it's obvious that even if Kate isn't eliminated tonight she will withdraw from the competition, which makes a public vote pretty pointless.
If she states she is going to withdraw before dancing then they should just give all the others a bye through to next week and not have a vote.
It's so obviouse that she'll be in the bottom two and the judges will say that they are choosing her to go as they don't want her to risk any further injury.”
“I too think it's obvious that even if Kate isn't eliminated tonight she will withdraw from the competition, which makes a public vote pretty pointless.
If she states she is going to withdraw before dancing then they should just give all the others a bye through to next week and not have a vote.
It's so obviouse that she'll be in the bottom two and the judges will say that they are choosing her to go as they don't want her to risk any further injury.
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The whole situation is a farce........Kate should have withdrawn 2 wks ago and the girls scores from this week carried over to next weeks show and the results from the two dances averaged. What are the Judges going to do if Kate survives the public vote this week and they have to eliminate one of the 5 girls who have the potential to win. The GBP have a habit of voting for the underdog so this is a real possibility.........and then Kate has to withdraw anyway.
............We would also end up with only 2 finalists and I think we all agree that it would be more exciting to have three in the final.
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“The whole situation is a farce........Kate should have withdrawn 2 wks ago and the girls scores from this week carried over to next weeks show and the results from the two dances averaged. What are the Judges going to do if Kate survives the public vote this week and they have to eliminate one of the 5 girls who have the potential to win. The GBP have a habit of voting for the underdog so this is a real possibility.........and then Kate has to withdraw anyway.
............We would also end up with only 2 finalists and I think we all agree that it would be more exciting to have three in the final.”
“The whole situation is a farce........Kate should have withdrawn 2 wks ago and the girls scores from this week carried over to next weeks show and the results from the two dances averaged. What are the Judges going to do if Kate survives the public vote this week and they have to eliminate one of the 5 girls who have the potential to win. The GBP have a habit of voting for the underdog so this is a real possibility.........and then Kate has to withdraw anyway.
............We would also end up with only 2 finalists and I think we all agree that it would be more exciting to have three in the final.”
I totally agree. I feel sorry for Anton in all of this, I don't think he would have won as the other younger girls are the favourites to win, but it would have been nice for him to have lasted a couple of weeks.
Haven't read all of this thread, so forgive me if this is a repeated oppinion.
Kate is supposed to dance tonite - OK - I just hope that if she is not very good that she doesn't get the sympathy vote and is kept in. Her injuries probably mean that she won't be top of her game for the rest of the comp, and it would be better if she is just voted off if she isn't that good.
Sorry if that offends anyone, but it is nothing personal, I like Anton and Im sure she's nice enough.
Kate is supposed to dance tonite - OK - I just hope that if she is not very good that she doesn't get the sympathy vote and is kept in. Her injuries probably mean that she won't be top of her game for the rest of the comp, and it would be better if she is just voted off if she isn't that good.
Sorry if that offends anyone, but it is nothing personal, I like Anton and Im sure she's nice enough.
MegaDancer, I totally agree.
I think it would be best if Kate is in the bottom two and goes It will be so unfair if anyone else goes when she obviously is going to struggle due to her injury.
I hope the audience don't waste their money in an attempt to save her from the bottom two when its obvious she might have to pull out anyway after this week if she stays.
I think it would be best if Kate is in the bottom two and goes
It will be so unfair if anyone else goes when she obviously is going to struggle due to her injury. I hope the audience don't waste their money in an attempt to save her from the bottom two when its obvious she might have to pull out anyway after this week if she stays.
I think that that's the opinion of most of the people on here. I like Anton and would have liked him to stay but it must have taken all the fun out of the competition for him not knowing whether Kate will dance or not. If she does stay and decides to carry on, he's going to have to choreograph routines depending on her injury and there will always be that doubt hanging over him as to whether she'll be able to continue.
To avoid an unintended injustice to the other hardworking dancers, best for Kate to formally announce her enforced withdrawal before judging and voting, and that Kate does not want 2 dancers unintentionally eliminated tonight, i.e. no artificial high marks or high voting for Kate please. Kate can then perform her courageous but non-competitive lap of honour.
I believe that would be the honourable and thoughtful thing to do, smoothly avoiding unintended unhappy outcomes.
Does anyone know the best way to email to Brucie and the BBC organisers, bypassing layers of bureaucracy with only 3 hours to go?
Suggest all sympathetic persons to also send email and help reinforce this point to the organisers.
I believe that would be the honourable and thoughtful thing to do, smoothly avoiding unintended unhappy outcomes.
Does anyone know the best way to email to Brucie and the BBC organisers, bypassing layers of bureaucracy with only 3 hours to go?
Suggest all sympathetic persons to also send email and help reinforce this point to the organisers.
I rather hope she announces she's stepping out of the competition during the results show although I do wonder if she can't because the Beeb would get in trouble for allowing us to vote if that was a possibility.
She seems very nice and I would have been interested to see more of her and Anton's partnership I just think it would be silly to lose one of the other very talented girls AND then likely Kate too during the week.
She seems very nice and I would have been interested to see more of her and Anton's partnership I just think it would be silly to lose one of the other very talented girls AND then likely Kate too during the week.
I do wonder whether it is in all the slebs' contracts that they have to compete at least one week before they can keep their full fee for sure?
Just being cynical. That could explain that why Kate insists to compete tonight, despite her agonising injury.
Just being cynical. That could explain that why Kate insists to compete tonight, despite her agonising injury.
Originally Posted by Frodora:
“I do wonder whether it is in all the slebs' contracts that they have to compete at least one week before they can keep their full fee for sure?
Just being cynical. That could explain that why Kate insists to compete tonight, despite her agonising injury.”
“I do wonder whether it is in all the slebs' contracts that they have to compete at least one week before they can keep their full fee for sure?
Just being cynical. That could explain that why Kate insists to compete tonight, despite her agonising injury.”
True, they may have something in their contracts to say that after they have signed up that they are commited to compete to get their full fee, but I would have thought that there would be a get out clause were injury or illness were concerned, especially with something so obviously serious and painful as Kate's injury. It's not like she would just be saying she had twisted her ankle or didn't feel well.
It does create a problem, how to fill the 45-minute slot for Sunday, with all the suspense of elimination gone.
Perhaps Anton could be given a chance to dance with two woman professionals of his choice on Sunday. We all know Anton is good with any two-legged partner, so two exhibitiion dances would be no anticlimax.
Perhaps Anton could be given a chance to dance with two woman professionals of his choice on Sunday. We all know Anton is good with any two-legged partner, so two exhibitiion dances would be no anticlimax.
Simple solution........Just cancel this weeks public vote....and carry the scores over.........No big deal and none of the other contestants will feel cheated when Kate has to withdraw.. Ok it cocks up tomorrows results show.......but I`am sure the BBC can cope with that embarresment. At least they wont be conning viewers into voting when it`s obvious to all that Kate will have to withdraw no matter what the result.
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“Simple solution........Just cancel this weeks public vote....and carry the scores over.........No big deal and none of the other contestants will feel cheated when Kate has to withdraw.. Ok it cocks up tomorrows results show.......but I`am sure the BBC can cope with that embarresment. At least they wont be conning viewers into voting when it`s obvious to all that Kate will have to withdraw no matter what the result.”
“Simple solution........Just cancel this weeks public vote....and carry the scores over.........No big deal and none of the other contestants will feel cheated when Kate has to withdraw.. Ok it cocks up tomorrows results show.......but I`am sure the BBC can cope with that embarresment. At least they wont be conning viewers into voting when it`s obvious to all that Kate will have to withdraw no matter what the result.”
The only problem with carrying over the scores is that next week the girls will probably be competing with the boys as well, but they could just add the boys scores they got from the judges last week to next weeks scores.
If she pulls out after her dance tonight what are they going to fill the results show with. The 2 bottom couples would normally have a dance off, so without that your looking at a 15 minute hole to fill. But I agree it would be the best way to deal with the problem and ensure that we've still got the right number of contestants in for a 3 couple final.
Originally Posted by Mistermind:
“To avoid an unintended injustice to the other hardworking dancers, best for Kate to formally announce her enforced withdrawal before judging and voting, and that Kate does not want 2 dancers unintentionally eliminated tonight, i.e. no artificial high marks or high voting for Kate please. Kate can then perform her courageous but non-competitive lap of honour.
I believe that would be the honourable and thoughtful thing to do, smoothly avoiding unintended unhappy outcomes.
Does anyone know the best way to email to Brucie and the BBC organisers, bypassing layers of bureaucracy with only 3 hours to go?
Suggest all sympathetic persons to also send email and help reinforce this point to the organisers.”
“To avoid an unintended injustice to the other hardworking dancers, best for Kate to formally announce her enforced withdrawal before judging and voting, and that Kate does not want 2 dancers unintentionally eliminated tonight, i.e. no artificial high marks or high voting for Kate please. Kate can then perform her courageous but non-competitive lap of honour.
I believe that would be the honourable and thoughtful thing to do, smoothly avoiding unintended unhappy outcomes.
Does anyone know the best way to email to Brucie and the BBC organisers, bypassing layers of bureaucracy with only 3 hours to go?
Suggest all sympathetic persons to also send email and help reinforce this point to the organisers.”
I totally agree and I really like Kate and Anton but clearly the poor woman in injuried and should have pulled out giving them at least a chance to find an alternative partner for Anton - I can't believe that Anton will have to go out so early
I wish Kate all the very best and hope she recovers soon
Originally Posted by Electrat:
“If she pulls out after her dance tonight what are they going to fill the results show with. The 2 bottom couples would normally have a dance off, so without that your looking at a 15 minute hole to fill. But I agree it would be the best way to deal with the problem and ensure that we've still got the right number of contestants in for a 3 couple final.”
“If she pulls out after her dance tonight what are they going to fill the results show with. The 2 bottom couples would normally have a dance off, so without that your looking at a 15 minute hole to fill. But I agree it would be the best way to deal with the problem and ensure that we've still got the right number of contestants in for a 3 couple final.”
I'm sure the decision has already been made as to whether Kate is going to carry on after tonight or whether she's going to pull out so the BBC should have enough time to either cancel the results show and replace it with a highlights from last year or something show, or they could get the pros to do a couple of dances.
Hopefully Anton will be able to do a few demonstration dances during the rest of the series.
So if kate withdraws and there is no vote what happens to sundays show???? pretty pointless to have a show with no one leaving - not saying that i think that kate shouldnt withdraw as i think she should
Originally Posted by Frodora:
“I do wonder whether it is in all the slebs' contracts that they have to compete at least one week before they can keep their full fee for sure?
Just being cynical. That could explain that why Kate insists to compete tonight, despite her agonising injury.”
“I do wonder whether it is in all the slebs' contracts that they have to compete at least one week before they can keep their full fee for sure?
Just being cynical. That could explain that why Kate insists to compete tonight, despite her agonising injury.”
Not cynical.. it may well be true! Maybe that's why Jimmy Tarbuck pulled out last year after one dance. He may have been told he was not fit enough during rehearsals but had to fulfil his contract.
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