Although I don't agree with the result, I'll leave having a true opinion until next week. If she comes out and is able to perform better next week then I think it'll be ok, but if she's just as bad next week and proves the performance this week was no just down to pain and lack of rehearsal then she deserves to go,

me too

It doesn't help because you can still vote on the standard reached or whether you like something particularly well or whether you see potential or limitations. You could base all those decisions on the second dance. You could argue standard shown should be decisive because thats more judgeable and the rest is unknow, but you could equally argue a judge ought to be able to tell who has most potential?

I agree they don't agree on what they are doing.

Its not the same thing though. JT was in danger of death. Kate isn't at risk. There is a complete lack of information - either way - given on the show anyway - about whaether she will get better (enough) by next week. All we heard was the hope that irt would.. The question was not asked or answered - only touched upon. Papers might say other things but they are rarely right , never say things are Ok when they can say disaster looms, and are always out of date.

Giiven Kate doesn't know and the public knew less the logical conclusion was for the public to decide not to risk it because there was no evidence that the risk would come off. Instead we got another sympathy vote and yet another anti-judge vote.

The vote is that Stephanie and her humour has gone when there is one female who can't really walk and three to six (depending who you rate) males who are worse dancers still in.

It was always going to be a bad choice though when the weakest of the walking females was better than nearly all the males. The casting is top heavy with good females and no really good males and no females bad enough to go early. It may get worse because I suspect some of the males will hang around past their sell by date and I doubt if all the 4 girls who ought to make the last 4 will get the votes to get there.

Mock me if you will, but I went to bed not knowing the result - was so worried re Vincent and Stephanie's fate that I couldn't sleep so here I am at 4.25 am - devastated.

However, this is precisely the outcome I predicted and I primarily blame Arlene for being so offensive to Kate, thereby ensuring a skewed sympathy vote.

SCD is in danger of degenerating into farce and atm I don't really care. How ludicrous that we can all know the result before the 'Results Show' - inevitable tho' when BBC persist with the mockery of pretending what happened on Saturday is happening on Sunday.

Finally - inspite of all the criticism tonight of 'fan based threads' I'm staying firmly in the Vincent thread, regardless of him being in SCD or not. He (and Louisa and Flavia) made SCD come alive for me, and it loses a whole dimension without him. Am just biding my time now till SCD6

At least I'm in the happy position of not caring a damn who wins this series. Unless its Flavia

Gutted about Stephanie and Vincent, but it was madness to let Kate dance in tonight's show as there was always going to be the 'sympathy votes' to screw up the placings - what is it with us GBP and the underdog thing?!
Now we've got seriously inferior male dancers in - and Stephanie out - sooo not fair.
Also, still not liking the results show being shown on Sunday - especially as we already know the results.

Has anyone thought this through?

Earlier in the evening S&V scored 6,6,6,6 = 24, L&D scored 4,7,6,6 = 23. Ignore the maths - Len and Bruno marked them equal, Arlene thought L&D were better, Craig thought S&V were a lot better.

Come the dance off - Arlene votes S&V, Craig votes L&D! (Consistency as always).

However given that the vote is split, it is entirely Len Goodman´s decision. He indicated that the were both by and large equal, so toss a coin. He may even have voted on the basis of the dance off!

Only after Ms Phillips uncalled for personal attack. Kate would have gone if they had followed Craig´s lead - good effort, score=2.

vincent and stephanie should NOT have gone by a long way.

thanks for posting the result

Think the spoiler result should be the first post in a new thread of its own - like last week. This thread was started way too early so we had to trawl through pages of posts to get the result.

Gutted Kate is not up to dancing - she is injuired and way behind with her practice - to be honest I think she would have wanted to go tonight some of the judges (Arlene in particular) turned on her - it was uncomfortable to watch - I admire her for taking it with such good humour

yes, you're right, she should have withdrawn. I feel very sorry for Anton. He's so polite and puts on a brave face but its a competition and i think its only fair to him for her to withdraw to give him the opportunity to find another partner. Too late in the show now tho i would've thought.

Just woke up and couldn't resist looking at result. I should have known that the GBP would go for the sympathy vote.....again! Whether Kate had sore feet or not anyone could tell she hasn't an ounce of rhythm or grace and definately should have left.

Slinky , I so agree and you know , I have spent the last 2 weeks saying she would survive a few weeks , as I thought Brian may . I apologise , I was wrong .

I can't but also agree with the fact that the judges did this as sure as if they had voted her out .
You would think after 4 years of trying this tactic , they would have learned m, the GBP in thier wisdom will back whoever the judges put down the most .

I feel similarly about Karen and SCd , but I prefer other celebrities this year and at least Brian was the weakest in the dance off . Kenny I believe is far the weaker dancer as we saw last night . Stephanie was in no way the weakest .
At the risk of getting shot down a thought which occurred to me on Thursday night when the tour was announced , how would it look if Letitia had gone out first week ?

Hello. Very sorry to Stephanie and Vincent fans but Im going to be a bit controversial here.

I think Stephanie did a good dance but I genuinely think the judges would be less inclined to slag her off after judging as they count her as a 'big name'. (much like Wayne Newton in DWTS). However, they would want to be rid of her in the dance off as they would perceive that she may have limitations in Latin (rightly or wrongly)

I think she did a good job and deserved her 24 but I also think Letitia deserved more than a 4 from Craig ( he didnt comment positively on anything) and Kate deserved more than a 2. Of course the judges must realise by now that being nasty garners the sympathy vote but are either too stupid or too unconcerned to care.

Traditionally, the couple ranked 2nd lowest is in danger as they dont get the sympathy votes or the 'wow, that was amazing!' votes so I am not too surprised about Letitia and Darren although I suspect that if they are higher up the leaderboard in future then they will be okay.

I agree with no such conspiracy on the judges voting for BBC people. I think the current vote system might mean a lot of shock 'bottom two' scenarios. In other series, you might have seen the practice on ITT and voted for it. Now that isnt possible.

So poor Stephanie and Vincent fell prey to the middle of the board curse. I dont blame Kate or Letitia -I blame Arlene and Craig. If they had just said 'well done, not too great but considering youre injured etc' then I think Kate may have been bye bye.

I cant believe you are all so shocked. I thought all week that Stephanie would go. I am not saying it is right, but the judges were never going to think she had enough to offer the show. And her comments on ITT this week about loathing the show and saying it was vulgar were never going to help.

I am glad she has gone. The public thought Kate deserved a second chance and whilst that is harsh on Stephanie, I can live with that..


But BBC, please go back to the live Saturday night results show.. This just isnt working!

I'm not surprised in the slightest that Stephanie went out, so I'm not particularly disappointed.

This results show is turning into a bit of a farce. Most people will be too tempted to find out the result before the show airs.

One thing I hate about this is that I would have loved to have voted for Stephanie after I saw her on ITT, I know thats not voting for the dancing, but this show is also about (at least where I am concerned) about the personalities on show, and she certainly had bundles of personality. Surely also a limited voting time impacts the amount of money Children in Need gets?

She didn't say she loathed the show at all. She said she found having to shimmy vulgar for a woman of her age.

In fact I thought her personality would have been the thing to save her - unfortunately it didn't come out as well last night and she danced early too.

This is absolutley stupid !!
It was obvious that the results would be leaked out every week not having the results shown live on saturday.

The BBC SHOULD DEFINATLEY reconsider what they have done and put the results show back to saturday - LIVE.

I am sure there are others like me - now i know who is out, i am not bothered if i miss tonights results show.

Let the ratings fall, that will teach them.

Being the first to do the dance (this applies for both dances showcased on a particular night -so counts for Steph and Letitia) is never a good thing as the judges are careful with their marks so they can go up and down. I wonder how that will work out for other contestants in future weeks?

Even though I'm, of course , devastated that Vincent has gone (understatement - I'm in bits !) I do agree with you re Stephanie - her attitude left a lot to be desired and many of her comments were 'ill-advised' (not that she would care one jot!)

After all her comments during the week and her general air of not giving a damn, I was prepared for her going BUT as I actually thought she looked so breathtakingly amazing and managed to dance reasonably well that - with Letitia taking a bashing/Kate being practically crippled/Gabby being rather frosty - she might have stood a chance of going through (and almost certainly would have if it had been 'Boys' and 'Girls')

The judges know by now how the GBP support underdogs and they should really back off with the nasty insults and stick to constructive and supportive comments.

AND - the Sunday Results Show is a disgraceful travesty and a farce

Finally - poor Vincent . Tho' it would have been poor Anton (again). I reckon the pros really earn their money. Not many of the celebs do!

Well that's completely ruined it for me. I felt Kate gave a brave effort but if the judges saved her then I'm going to question if she was as "ill" as they led us to believe. It was their opportunity to let her go gracefully but, instead we're going to have another GMTV weather girl dominating the headlines for all the wrong reasons.

The judges didn't save Kate. They gave her the worst marks. But then she wasn't in the bottom two, so what could they do?

Yes, they did. Arlene and Craig gave them a free pass to the next round.

So if the judges give bad marks we criticise them. And if the judges give good marks we criticise them.

What are we suggesting the judges should have done?