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SPOILER - Round 2 bottom 2 couples
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*Laura*
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by fern3:
“The judges didn't save Kate. They gave her the worst marks. But then she wasn't in the bottom two, so what could they do?”


Sorry I've just read the rest of the thread. Well if the public want her in then there's nothing we can do about it. I loved Stephanie and Vincente and am VERY disappointed they're gone but, I didn't vote for them so I can't complain.

I've yet to pick a winner from the beginning and with Barnesy and Matt being my second faves, this year is no exception.

*Wanders off muttering something like: "Colin wuz robbed"*
Dancingles
14-10-2007
Have to agree with Laura, if Kate can continue in the competition and train properly from now on in the hope she is "better" next week, there is no way she had the severity of tendonitis she was leading us to believe. As many people have said, and who have suffered from it, it takes weeks of rest to recover from!

Will wait until next week, but if she is "better" and can dance and train properly, I, for one, will feel this was a bit of a con.
Seymour
14-10-2007
To be honest I expected Kate and Letitia to be the bottom two last night and Kate deciding she didn't want to dance off and leave.I do feel sorry for her, but imo she is an accident waiting to happen. I watched her last night and wondered if she would last the dance out. I thought she gave a reasonable performance better than Fiona at the time she left the comp. I wish she had left last night then we would have Steph's humour for a few more weeks.
The Divination
14-10-2007
I forecast Stephanie to go, but after seeing her dance I thought she'd make it through to the next round. I thought she looked fantastic and gave a good performance. Although she's a 'diva' and full of personality she was clearly nervous in front of the judges and when talking to Tess, not surprising when she was first to dance.

Without having seen the dance off it's not possible to say who gave the better performance between Stephanie and Letitia, but even there the judges don't agree on the criteria. Last week Len maintained it was performance in the dance off, Craig and Arlene said it was about potential.

Incidentally I think a lot of Steph's remarks about vulgarity etc. were just her way of having a laugh at herself and not taking everything too seriously.

Others (take note Gabby) could take a leaf out of her book.
claire2281
14-10-2007
I'm just sad to see Stephanie go on the basis she had more personality than most of the boys put together and enough dance talent to warrant a few extra weeks at least.

And I have to admit to secretly wishing Arlene had said something very rude and be able to watch Stephanie bring her down a peg or two...

Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“*Wanders off muttering something like: "Colin wuz robbed"* ”

Ah Colin...I just watched their QS and AS again this morning. Still wonderful.
daisy123
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“To be honest I expected Kate and Letitia to be the bottom two last night and Kate deciding she didn't want to dance off and leave.I do feel sorry for her, but imo she is an accident waiting to happen. I watched her last night and wondered if she would last the dance out. I thought she gave a reasonable performance better than Fiona at the time she left the comp. I wish she had left last night then we would have Steph's humour for a few more weeks.”



I agree with you. Stephanie was not the worst dancer but unfortunately that didnt matter. Unfortunately for Kate she was and she should have gone.
Brian and Karen in the dance off last week did have the worst performance (and yes i am a major karen fan saying they were the worst!) and they were eliminated, maybe stephanie had a nightmare in the dance off and that is why she left
dome
14-10-2007
It's wrong to compare Fiona to Kate. Fiona made no real attempt to learn imo and Kate has had no chance to really train.

I think Kate if able to train could actually be rather good.

Craig and Arlene where just so rude to Kate and Anton I'm not surprised that the votes were pulled in.

I'd rather see them all dance for two or three weeks before anyone was voted off, we'd get a better idea if they have any real aptitude rather than the dance style didn't fit.
yenston
14-10-2007
I don't know if anyone else has posted this, but has anyone thrown up the possibility that Kate's injury was made out to be worse than it was, in order to gain publicity and the sympathy vote? Could it be because she started training later than everybody else, then missed some practise because she had food poisoning, that she didn't want to do the group dance? Let's face it there has been a lot of focus on Kate throughout the week, and that won't have done her any harm.

After reading lots of posters own experience of tendonitis it's not something you get over in a week. Kate's attitude seems to be that she is on the mend and will now be OK to dance. She is either getting rubbish advice from doctors, deluded or there was never much wrong with her in the first place. The reality is that if she is as badly injured as she's made out then she is only going to get worse. No doctor or physio would tell her to continue dancing if that's the case.

It's all rather odd IMO! I'm not saying she has completely made up this injury, I think she did hurt her feet, but maybe capitalized on that to good effect. It's just a theory because otherwise I'm a tad confused as to how she thinks she's going to carry on.

As for Stephanie leaving I am gutted. The competition will be poorer for losing her and Vincent. If the judges are saving couples based on who was the better dancer, then surely Stephanie should have been saved. Although I can see why they saved Letitia as she probably has more potential. And it couldn't have anything to do with Letitia being on the SCD tour could it?!
Dancingles
14-10-2007
Agree to some extent. I have posted something similar at the top of the page! If she is fully fit and dances next well, I will feel it is a bit of a con, which will make it all the more sad that Stephanie was the one to suffer. But no, I don't feel Letitia was saved because of the tour, if that were the case they would have marked her higher in the first place, particularly Craig. And Vincent is in the tour too! I think the judges were left in an invidious position because of a sympathy vote for Kate, which may well not be deserved if she is not too badly injured!
winter_chicken
14-10-2007
I guess Letita and Darren couldn't go out 1st of the girls as she's on the tour. This way, because no doubt boys will go out over the next couple of weeks she gets to stay longer.
They couldn't justify having one of the celebs on the tour who was the 1st (girl) out......
Dancingles
14-10-2007
Of course they could justify it, as Darren is one of the professionals, and if Jill couldn't come back, neither Gloria nor Emma (Spice Tour) are suitable, who is he supposed to dance with then?

I think people get paranoid about results being fixed tbh. Letitia and Stephanie were within a mark of each other, and if Craig had marked Letitia more fairly they would have been at least equal.

The real point is that Kate got a sympathy vote for a supposedly really serious injury which takes weeks to recover from, and which apparently she thinks will be OK next week! Neither Stephanie nor Letitia should have gone.
dome
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by yenston:
“I don't know if anyone else has posted this, but has anyone thrown up the possibility that Kate's injury was made out to be worse than it was, in order to gain publicity and the sympathy vote?...........”


If that was the case the blame surely should be put at the producers door.

Unless people have actually seen Kate's medical records it's all speculation.

Also remember she is getting top notch treatment not just popping down the doctors surgery and waiting for referrals etc like the rest of us poor mortals would have to do.
musicangel
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by little_miss:
“
Spoiler
Vincent and Stephanie are out, bottom two were Vincent and Stephanie and Letita and Darren





THE RESULT”

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING!!!
asp746
14-10-2007
i'm sorry stephanie went, she was funny. I was sure kate would've gone first.

Over the next few weeks i'm not sure what order it'll be but it will be , Kenny, leticia, willie, kate.

how we'l chose between the girls is going to be so hard.

kelly & dom are my favourite but not sure how far dom will go.
musicangel
14-10-2007
Thought Kate and Anton should have been in the bottom two,there have been celebs with injuries for years!! why should that make a diff!! ifyou injured thats it, itsnot personal! but it isa dancing competition!

those two shouldnt have gone!
yenston
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by dome:
“If that was the case the blame surely should be put at the producers door.

Unless people have actually seen Kate's medical records it's all speculation.

Also remember she is getting top notch treatment not just popping down the doctors surgery and waiting for referrals etc like the rest of us poor mortals would have to do.”

That's why it's all the more suspicious!
kazmson
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by Dancingles:
“Of course they could justify it, as Darren is one of the professionals, and if Jill couldn't come back, neither Gloria nor Emma (Spice Tour) are suitable, who is he supposed to dance with then?

I think people get paranoid about results being fixed tbh. Letitia and Stephanie were within a mark of each other,”

I so totally agree with you. I mean apart from the chosen few most of us haven't even seen the dance off yet. It's getting a bit like the BB forum - Conspiracy forum central

I know everyone has their favorites and it's really frustrating when they go sooner rather than later...but it's the nature of the show.

(And if they decide to re jig the format again next time... Please look back at series 2 - boys and girls competing together from the start, with each group doing the same dance thus comparing like with like ...all girls rumba all boys waltz etc )
yenston
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by kazmson:
“I so totally agree with you. I mean apart from the chosen few most of us haven't even seen the dance off yet. It's getting a bit like the BB forum - Conspiracy forum central

I know everyone has their favorites and it's really frustrating when they go sooner rather than later...but it's the nature of the show.

(If they decide to re jig the format again next time. Please look back at series 2 - boys and girls competing together from the start, with each group doing the same dance comparing like with like ...all girls rumba all boys waltz etc)”

They'd have to go back to ten couples (a good idea) to do that, and the series would then only last 8 weeks.
Dancingles
14-10-2007
I loved Series Two, it was my favourite. The format was great,none of this ridiculous boys and girls only weeks, all men and women doing the same dance as the rest of their gender, and only 12 couples,which was ideal, or was it 10? AND the best dancer still won, without the judges having the final say, or any silly dance off, which seems nothing but a time filler imo.

In fact, the best two dancer, Jill and Denise were the final couple, which just goes to show that the new rules are not really justified.
Evenstar120
14-10-2007
I really think if Kate Garroway isn't fit to dance but is kept in by lame sympathy voting then she should have the grace and decency to withdraw as soon as possible. She has been hobbling around on crutches, having difficulty walking let alone doing the quickstep. Anton was practically carrying her round the floor. There is no way that Stephanie should have gone out. I fail to understand why anyone would vote to keep Kate in, seeing the state that she was in last night.
Please BBC, do something and get rid of her now.
musicangel
14-10-2007
i agree!! if she cant practice! and the sympathy votes keep them in thats not on!
Tissy
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by Dancingles:
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In fact, the best two dancer, Jill and Denise were the final couple, which just goes to show that the new rules are not really justified.”

Maybe they changed it so they could get celebrities like Zoe and Emma to the final two?
dome
14-10-2007
Originally Posted by Evenstar120:
“I really think if Kate Garroway isn't fit to dance but is kept in by lame sympathy voting then she should have the grace and decency to withdraw as soon as possible. She has been hobbling around on crutches, having difficulty walking let alone doing the quickstep. Anton was practically carrying her round the floor. There is no way that Stephanie should have gone out. I fail to understand why anyone would vote to keep Kate in, seeing the state that she was in last night.
Please BBC, do something and get rid of her now.”


I think she would have been perfectly happy to go she just wanted the chance to dance.

If you want to blame someone blame the producers and Craig and Arlene for encouraging the votes.

If the producers had wanted her gone they would have sent her on her merry way long before last night.
kazmson
14-10-2007
Series 2 was my fav too! And I think as you say, men and women doing the same dance as the rest of their gender, allowed for a more clarity in the marking.

( It's off topic so won't linger but as far as having less couples and therefore less episodes ala Series 2 - Include a preview training type show and no elimnations in Week One - then at least we'd get to see the couples do one ballroom and latin routine. Exploiting the exisiting format more, rather than adding to it constantly.)
miaviv
14-10-2007
Wow, look at how many times this thread has been consulted, there are a lot of us who want to know the result before tonight's official screening.
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