Mr T says:

I pity the fool who can't stop posting spoilers!



Back on the actual topic - the Sunday results show doesn't bother me as such because I always look at the results beforehand if they're available. I don't get all this grand deception talk either since it is very common practice for broadcasters to record shows as live which go out a day or two later. Friday night with JR pretends it's Friday when it's not - do people get irate about this too?

I think I'd be more concerned actually if it was shown live today as waiting for 24hrs for the result would be rather torturous once you get to the crazily involved stages later in the series.

That really should have been in spoiler tags, as I was trying NOT to see the result, and that now has given me a clue as to who may or may not be there.

For that scenario to happen there would have to be enough of the voting public in one mind though, and I doubt that there is enough.



I sympathise. I don't mind knowing the results but it's a shame people can't keep the comments about who has gone to one spoiler thread. It's a selfish attitude towards those who don't want to know in advance.

My thoughts exactly. There hasn't been any pretence at it being a live show on Sunday. They simply say it's Sunday night. If people have assumed it's live then that's not actually the BBC's fault.

Good point.

Also, being realistic about it, they're simply not going to drag all the performers back for a live Sunday night show.

I'm glad the judges have the final say now. Look at Series 1 when Chris Parker actually made it to the final! If he had won, in my view there would have been no point in having any more Strictly series. It would have been a joke, since the man couldn't dance and didn't take it seriously.

Then we had the series when Darren Gough won purely because of his devoted fan base, robbing Colin Jackson of what should have been his title. The final in that series ought to have been between Colin and Zoe - Darren shouldn't even have made it that far.

Last year I was pleased Karen won but I wasn't sure the result would have been the same had Emma Bunton gone through.

At least this way the public and the judges share limited power.

If the GBP vote to keep someone in that they find entertaining then all the dance experts complain that it's a "dance competition." When the judges get more clout, then the cry changes to "it's entertainment." You are just so not going to please all of the people all of the time.

But what the majority of us do seem to agree on is the sheer stupidity of the Sunday show. I actually found myself getting angry last night that I wasn't going to be able to see the results show later in the evening. It has really spoiled my enjoyment of SCD as I enjoyed SCD on Saturday's, and now it's like watching half a show --there's something missing. And watching the results on Sunday (when I already know the result) it's just lame.

Does anyone know what the ratings were for last Sunday's show? The Saturday night show ratings were published but I didn't see anything about Sunday's. It would be interesting to know and also to see if the ratings for the Sunday show rise, fall or stay consistent. If they fall then it bodes well for next year!

The difference is that Jonathan Ross has, to my knowledge, never gone out truly live - it's always been pre recorded and then shown 'live' on a Friday night. Had SCD been in it's current format from the 1st or 2nd series - no one would have batted an eye lid, the fact is we loved the live show and we got used to it being on a Saturday night, now the suspense and excitement have been damaged because with a show like this leaks are inevitable.

If the results leak every week (as they no doubt will) I can imagine the ratings for the Sunday show starting to fall. If people already know the result they may be less inclined to tune in.

I'm more annoyed by the Sunday thing than anything else, but I agree about the changes to the voting/elimination sucking big monkeys balls

I agree with that. I have not looked at the spoiler thread, but only looking at this thread made me realise who must have gone out. It's just not the same as before.

Do you work for the BBC by any chance, you sound like a press release?
If they wanted to make the judges decision really fair they should have brought in another judge so Len wouldnt need to have casting vote, because that means in effect he chooses who goes, and that judge should have been a dancer with judging experience of both types of dancing.
I dont have a problem with the results being a day later except that it is filmed in front of an audience on Saturday and that leads to the obvious leaking of the results and less people voting, so less money for CIN.
Also the childish fighting with X factor is really tiresome.

My main gripe is that the judges get 2 chances to get 'their own way' - and in Len's case 3!

At the end of the show, they may just as well say to Len - righti-ho matey - who do you want to go? and save the charade!

I have to say that I think the winners for each series would always have won regardless of this method of eviction. The audience take a certain pleasure in keeping the entertaining ones in, but when push comes to shove the winners are generally worthy winners - either through the <braces self> 'journey' (there, said it ) they have had - like Darren Gough and Mark (who would have beaten anyone in the final last year) or Jill and Natasha. Most of the people I know find the joy of the programme is taking someone who can't dance and turning them into someone who can - rather than taking someone who is already half way decent and just polishing them up a bit.

It's a very horrible move on the BBC's part. I'm pretty disgusted that they've done this.

i think the o/p's is correct if for example last week i had voted for caborn & not k logan & if caborn had been second bottom overall then i have wasted my money on a vote. as judges at the 2nd bite booted him off sorry but i wont be voting again as its a rip off.
i would also like to point out that this new result show loses children in need between 22/24 hours of voting revenue as lines are closed from 9pm saturday.
WELL DONE BBC

Der Chef says

I propose a slight change to the format

As its quite clear its Alesha, Penny and Kelly ear marked for the final

The other female celebs should be thrown out every other week

and the Male Celebs are relegated to doing a highly entertaining group dance EVERY WEEK

Ohhh Yeah

I agree, I'm not happy with couples leaving because the judges decide. If the same couples would have left with the old format (GBP deciding together with the judges points) I would have respected that, now it's just RUBBISH !!
I will not vote anymore

Unless there's a dramatic turnaround by the faceless gits in suits at the BBC, Come Dancing is most definitely dead and buried for me, and I hope the rest of the audience agree.

I had to drive like a maniac to get back in time for the results show, and after watching it, I'm wondering why I bothered - watching an echo of what happened last night just doesn't cut it.

It'll limp out another series to dwindling viewers and then begin to die a long and miserable death.

Bt that is completely and utterly different. It makes no difference whatever if JR is live or recorded two days earlier, it is just a chat show. He sometimes makes 'jokes' to the effect of oh yeh it's Friday isn't it, knowing that we all know it's recorded.

But for a results show to be shown 22 hours after the result is known is just ridiculous. I have to completely avoid this forum for all of Sunday because I know I will accidentally find the answer otherwise. I want to view the results show in ignorance of the result. Otherwise, why watch? Okay you've got lots of nice dancing but the main focus for me is to find out who went.

I noticed tonight it seems they are showing Robin Hood twice - in a slot which could be occupied by SCD results on Saturday, and then again before the SCD Sunday Show. How on earth can they justify this.

As for the judges vote... as Arlene pointed out, it made no difference this week, the judges all obviously wanted Kate out but the public prevented them firing her. I originally thought the judges having the final say was a good thing, but I am rapidly changing my mind. As others have said, it not just about dance, it is about entertainment. Julian Clary would never have got past the judges in this format.

Ha ha yeah! In fact, you know what? I could honestly do without all of the stage-school type females who are already getting 8s and 9s. :yawn: The male celebs' dance this week was the best thing on Strictly in ages - John Barnes: what a legend! So yeah, lets just have the guys and, more importantly, the female pros.
To steal your Duffman catchphrase...Oh Yeah!

Too funny

May have missed this but what have the mods said about putting a 'sticky' about spoilers in this forum like they have in Cult?

o/t they should have Mr T. on DWTS

Apart from the utter stupidity of moving the results show to Sunday night instead of having it after Casualty (as in previous years).

I think it is a good idea for the judges to decide who should be eliminated out of the bottom 2, but with one amendment.......

In event of a 2-2 tie, Len should NOT have the casting vote.

In this instance it should go back to the public vote, and the couple that received the least number of votes from the great British public is out.

Der Chef agrees

Agrees

Ohh Yeah

There's nothing quite like a little bit of over-reaction!

That's gets my vote..... why don't you apply for a high-powered job at the BBC - I hear there's a vacancy

I predict catastrophic ratings for the Sunday show when Emmerdale and Corrie get back to occupying the 7-8 slot. People will probably turn to the internet to find out the results. I would also venture to say that many (though not all, of course!) viewers who watch SCD are the same as those who watch ITV on a Sunday night. I'm sure we'll be back to a live Saturday results show before the end of the run, and the BBC saying it was never planned for the results show to be on Sundays throughout the run

you may well be - do the words anti and climax mean anything to you?
Waynebird