I think it is a headshot only that kills people if they have the "Juggernaut" perk.

The Juggernaut perk is pretty damn annoying, especially when you have the double-tap and increased bullet damage perks and still they wont go down unless you shoot an entire clip at their chest.

Just got COD4 this morning and had just over an hour on it. I think it is a great game but after a few months of playing Halo 3 and Gears of War non-stop COD4 feels a bit realistic and therefore hard to control.

I just cant wait to become a "Lance corporal II" so i can play different online matches.

That's because Halo 3 and GoW are childrens games (hence the "scary" monsters).

Yeah Juggernaut is annoying if you're a sniper at the other end.
Played Oldcore last night which is tough but great fun on maps like Vacant where it's a quick way to boost your weapon experience/kill rate as each weapon kills almost instantly. You can also pile up the airstrikes and helicopter call-ins with ease .

I like it this way! i hate it how in other games people (or things) can take a whole magazine of bullets. its so frustrating. 3 or 4 bullets and your dead! that how it should be lol 1 i think is a bit over the top unless its a headshot

can PC users play xbox/ps3 users?

I've played about half of the single player campaign and now wanna play multiplayer as most say its awesome

No, thank god!

I like the Xbox controller but it can't match the accuracy of a mouse.
I find it more fun using console controls, though.

Haven't played an online FPS since Counter Strike & am enjoying COD4 a lot more, even though some of the maps are iffy.

You can get a specialised mouse for the 360 and the PS3 for about £30 - it gives people an unquestionably unfair advantage, though i reckon i could still hold my own against the best of them with my gamepad.

p.s i've forgotten what rank i just made it up to, but its a single silver star, and it unlocked the Desert Eagle, so thats cool.

I've got my kill/death ratio pretty damn good now.

I've killed 2713 people, and died 1713 times - a whole 1,000 up!

hehe - I have the xbox 360 controller for windows, but of course I use the mouse to play!

i know how it is man, i was mega stuck on ghillied up at the fairest wheel waiting for the chopper. makes the game lsat longer though


well actually it is. the barrett .50 calibre is actually not a sniper rifle, but an anti-material rifle (or counter-sniper rifle depending on which version) its used mainly to take out enemy IED's, but the round has easily penetrated over 1 1/2 inches of light armour, with the original design meant to be for taking out light APC's etc, hence anti-material rifle.

so not quite so unrealistic, but i do see your point

Thats because your playing it on the ps3, If you were playing it on the xbox360 it would be killed: 1713 Died:2713

Xbox 360 players --------> PS3 players

God right now I would love an inter-console battle!!

Imagine how good it would be to be able to have inter console battles It would be like really going to war for the fanboys who spend all day cyber warring on forums

There would be nothing better, than doing a head-shot on x-p-d (i.e the traitor)

You wouldn't stand a chance! on the beta i was 6,000+ kills and 4,000 odd deaths ratio.

On another subject, who here has had the previous COD games? i want to know what kind of additions we might see with DLC like map packs and stuff, how many maps they usually bundle and new weapons and stuff, any ideas?

One thing i'd really like to see is a new perk i would call "rover" it gives you an Alsation dog to set on people, or guard your back if you're sniping. Even if it didn't kill anyone for you, it would bark if an enemy was coming close to you, a bit like a thinking-mans claymore. Good idea or not?

Edit: i've just realised it might inadvertantly promote a user-generated game mode of dog fighting, the "Michael Myers" of COD4.

Well i will be joining you all tomorrow as i finally get the game,how many of the old stalwarts from the beta still play?

Most of them i think, but i got the game for PS3.

ah so you turned traitor!

only kidding

I still stand by my Infra-Red perk would be great......

Pro's: Ability to change Night Vision to Infra Red Vision where you can see the heat sources of players. Ability to see through smoke and counteract smoke grenades.

Cons: Doesnt differentiate heatsources between Team mates and Enemies. Particularly difficult on Team Deathmatches where Friendly Fire is ON.

In other words, you can see through enemy smoke bombs and take them out..... but be careful your not taking out your own team through the smoke if Friendly Fire is on.

Everyone from the Beta plays (except traitor )

I have played for a few more hours (online not single player) and im really getting into it.

Only downside is I think more effort could of been put into the menu system, it works ok, but looks a little crap.

I'm stuck on this part too, is really annoying! I've got to the checkpoint where the helicopters drop more enemies in but always seem to die getting Macmillan onto the chopper.

There's too many respawns, imo. Once you've killed them all that should be it! Or at least have a delay before the next wave arrives.

Almost everyone, Ive sent a friends request, (If I'm on later I'll send you an invite)

How many is there now in the "DS Clan" now it seems to be expanding everyday

I havent got anyone on my friends list other than DS members and I am up to 24 people so far and I know for a fact there are at least 2 people with the DS clan tag i havent yet added. So there must be close to 30 people with the DS tag at least.

Red Arrow..... hurry up and get on a game with Me, Chris, Webby and Speedbird...... you wanted tactics and we have some fantastic ones nailed down now which was bringing in huge numbers of wins last night on Search and Destroy.

And thanks to Speedbird that worked out that each S&D round = Win or Loss and not who wins overall. So if you play S&D and win 4-3 then it counts as 4 wins and 3 losses on your leaderboard rather than just 1 win.