I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I believe that is called cheating.

Considering the stats I've seen no one in the top 50 (100?) on any of the worldwide leaderboards has a genuine score.

I have no idea how the scoring system works?

How,for example can the top scoring player only have played for around 10 days when most the players up there have played for around 30? strange

The only way I can think of that it's worked out is your score includes points you get for UAVs, Airstrikes, Helis as these don't show up on your match score & you don't get XP for them, and maybe the points you get in Domination.

I've tried searching for how it works but couldn't find anything, either.

Most online games I've played have a secretive scoring system, eg FIFA 08. I've no idea how they work out the points you get for that. If you lose once your score can go down close to zero.

Which points cant you work out? All the Leaderboards seem fairly understandable to me if you look at your own and friends scores how they are worked out. It is just the top few players with over the top ridiculous scores like 2,000,000 kills that have achieved them via cheating means. Could possibly be a QA tester who has ways of hacking into the code to test the patch and for a laugh added 1,990,000 kills to his score. I wouldnt take any notice of the top scores that clearly are not possible to achieve.

I dont understand the scoring system either - i used to, but not anymore.
I recently checked my stats compared to someone else, i had more kills and better ratio, played more games, been on there a couple of hours longer and had better accuracy - yet this person had more points than me.

The leaderboards have screwed up since the numbnut hacked his savefile to get 2m kills.

My accuracy ratio instantly jumped from 18% to -18% which puts me 10th from bottom on the leaderboard.

Where can i complain? how can i have a negative ratio all of a sudden (and i've been playing better because my kill ratio has gone up) i've got over 200,000 hits 900,000 misses, it shouldnt be negative.

It is impossible to have a negative accuracy ratio. The lowest it can be is 0 if you havent hit anything yet.

If it is displaying a - number then the leaderboard is screwed up completely.

You do get xp for UAVs and that though don't you? When you use them it flashes up +10 on the screen.

Every score on the accuracy leaderboard has a - score of one less than + score so god knows what's happened to it.

It flashes up onscreen but if you check your score it hasn't added anything to it (at least not on 360).

When the xp breakdown is shown, at the end, all that is added together is your match score, bonus (how the hell is this worked out, btw?!) & any challenges completed so it doesn't look like uav points are included.

I thought that the +10 points you get for calling in a UAV, airstrike or Heli were added to your end of game bonus.

Although the points for planting or defusing a bomb go straight onto your score, the same with +15 points for capturing a flag on domination. I can't remember where the the +5 points you earn in a headquarters match go though...

It's all very confusing

The match bonus also goes up, the higher your rank, so there must be some kind of calculation involved.

It doesn't seem to make much of a difference whether you win or lose the match, as long as you get plenty of kills, which is a reason why some people don't even bother trying to win on domination/sabotage.

I think you should get the points for holding the flags, like on HQ, as this wil encourage more people to win. And a big bonus for winning on Sabotage as well, as it's annoying when you win after 30 seconds and only end up with 50 points or so.

Do you try and complete all the challenges each time you prestige mate? If not then this could explain the higher score.

The guys at the top have clearly cheated. You get this with any online game nowadays. Pathetic really.

You get SCORE for things like planting a bomb, but you also get XP for each point you score. However you dont get Score for each XP you get..... if that makes sense.

Score is based on KILLS, ASSIST KILLS and mission objectives such as holding a HQ or planting/defusing a bomb.

Things like UAV and stuff are purely XP and do not get added to your score.

so i will be on tonight for a bit of multiplayer action,it may take me a a little time but im sure i will get up to speed

But when you use a UAV etc it doesn't show up on your score. eg You kill 3 people on S&D, use the UAV and you score is 150, not 160. HQ points do show up your score, though, but Domination points don't.

The total for match bonus is the one which I really don't get. Not that it matters to me, I care more about helping the team win than my individual score, it'd just be nice to know how it's all worked out.

I said that the UAV DOESNT get added to score... its just XP only (which is your match bonus or part of it anyway) The Score part is just for kills, assists and doing a mission objective. In Team Deathmatch it is just Kills and Assists that make up the Score.

This Score then is what is shown on the Leaderboards as your score. The XP is only for ranking up and resets at level 55 (120,000 odd points)

As far as i am aware, Match Bonus at the end is XP points and not Score points.

I think it works like this:

Match points total at the end of the game counts points awarded for getting kills and assists, you get a score for holding the headquarters, and flags too.

The match bonus includes points awarded for headshots, calling in UAV/Airstrike/Chopper, capturing headquarters/flags and placing a bomb/disarming a bomb etc.

Does anyone else get the host ended game thing when you are the host and you haven't left the game? Is it the wireless ballsing up or something?

Yep Had it

Should do wonders for the crappy rep system section "quit early"

I've had that a few times, and i've said at the score page that i'm the host and i didn't end the game, and a few people have said it sometimes does that.

Really annoying!

Well i played COD4 on PS3(with Sinner for a few games before we got split up),and after playing both games on both systems i feel that Online there is little difference between the two the only niggle i have is that the chat in game is nigh on useless,sounds distorted at times,but i cant make a full judgement yet but on Sunday i will say which is the better online play

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/#?page=music

Music page of the GTA site is now open

ooops wrong thread

I have to admit I did wonder.

Does anyone know how exactly the cheaters get COD4 to work in their favour?

I'm not planning on doing it myself, but after practically emptying a whole RPD magazine into a guy yesterday and him still not dying (he didn't have juggernaut on either) I was just wondering what it is they do to the game that lets them cheat?

The follow on questions being, isn't it detectable and there fore ban-able?