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Kelly and Brendan- Love them or hate them?
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Erinfan
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“I also think Alesha is beautiful. But the question I ask is why do posters make negative comments about Kelly`s looks and not Alesha`s.......Or for that matter Mark R and James M. I do agree about the media over exposure though..... smacks a little of self promotion. If I was Kelly I`d try and play down the Red Top over exposure. If the press want to write about her, then theres not a lot she can do about it but she can control the obvious self promotion.”

I don't particularly like Kelly, but it has nothing to do with her looks - just not a fan of what we have seen of her personality. I like Alesha's personality and I liked Mark's as well which is why I like both of them. Would be surprised if looks actually comes into it for a lot of people.
StrictlyLiz
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“I love marmite but am very torn with Brendan and Kelly

I don't particularly like Brendan, I don't find him good looking but he's a great dancer and has charisma

Kelly is unbelievably stunning to look at and dances very well, but there is no way on earth she doesn't know that she looks good and can do it, so the comments she made on Saturday seemed a bit insincere

they have good chemistry but I prefer Alesha and Matt, their chemistry feels fun rather than lusty!”

Totally in agreement with you!
Erinfan
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by Mr Bickle:
“Has anybody actually bothered to think that the "false modesty" Kelly is accused of coming out with might actually be genuine modesty?

I just knew Kelly would provoke this type of reaction. Especially from females watching the show.”

Could be genuine modesty and I will apologise greatly if this turns out to be the case over the next few weeks, but it just sounded so fake! I personally find it very hard to believe that she was shocked she did well after watching the way she dances and knowing that she has previous dance experience and training. She must know she can dance IMO.

Women are allowed to have an opinion of other women without it being out of jealousy!
Tissy
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“I also think Alesha is beautiful. But the question I ask is why do posters make negative comments about Kelly`s looks and not Alesha`s.......Or for that matter Mark R and James M. I do agree about the media over exposure though..... smacks a little of self promotion. If I was Kelly I`d try and play down the Red Top over exposure. If the press want to write about her, then theres not a lot she can do about it but she can control the obvious self promotion.”

I don`t see anyone making negative comments about her looks.
swnymor1963
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
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Women are allowed to have an opinion of other women without it being out of jealousy!”

I apologize
frell-tastic
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“I don`t see anyone making negative comments about her looks.”

More having a negative perception of her because of her looks!
Aeryn
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by frell-tastic:
“More having a negative perception of her because of her looks!”

If that is the case, then why do the posters on this board have only this so called negative perception of her because of her looks, and not having any problems with Alesha or Penny, who are equally beautiful, imho?
CityofRoses
16-10-2007
Maybe people just find her a bit annoying, why is every single even slightly negative comment towards her accused of "female jealousy"
tonycollins100
16-10-2007
Kelly & Brendon: Personally I really look forward to their dancing. She, (as Karen said during her commentary), knows how to work the room. She is certainly putting in the effort to tell the story of her dance.

I thought Gabby was good too , but I am slightly put off by her over competitive nature, - but of course it is a competition.

I suppose I enjoyed all the ladies dances, but I did cringe for Kate, I hope she gets better - soon.

Ola will cheer up if she does well, I was very impressed with her solo dance last series - brilliant.
Angua
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by CityofRoses:
“Maybe people just find her a bit annoying, why is every single even slightly negative comment towards her accused of "female jealousy"”

Because it's easy, requires no thought and puts women down (including the beautiful one we are all meant to be jealous of)?
What are we if we think any of the many other beautiful women are great, I wonder? I notice we haven't yet had a reply to that question from the couple of 'you're jealous' posters on this thread.
It's the same on every forum and very irritating! I suppose I'm daft to rise to it but good grief it's patronising and insulting.
mcflea
16-10-2007
I hate Brendan and don't like Kelly. Billy Zane's a bit cute though.
Aeryn
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by mcflea:
“I hate Brendan and don't like Kelly.”

ROTFLMAO
swnymor1963
16-10-2007
Originally Posted by Angua:
“Because it's easy, requires no thought and puts women down (including the beautiful one we are all meant to be jealous of)?
What are we if we think any of the many other beautiful women are great, I wonder? I notice we haven't yet had a reply to that question from the couple of 'you're jealous' posters on this thread.
It's the same on every forum and very irritating! I suppose I'm daft to rise to it but good grief it's patronising and insulting.”

1-Kelly....beautiful...Comments made "and does`t she know it"

2-Gabby...comments...."She`s too competitive"

3-Alesha...comments.... "Too loud and irritating"

Well Gabby is no more competitive than Mark Ramprakash or Colin Jackson... Mark Ramprakash and James Martin were certainly not slated for being attractive.....Quite the opposite: as they still have fan threads on PAGE 1. Yes I`am a man and maybe Kelly has waved her magic wand and I`v fallen for her charms but I work in a female dominated enviroment and I know how the fairer sex react to very attractive women....I see and hear it every working day....They pick out out the tiniest flaw in their victims character and exploit and criticise it. This post is not meant to be personal but it`s just the observations of a man working in a female enviroment. and they let their guard down and forget I`am there: even though I`am their boss......although you would`t think it at times
CityofRoses
17-10-2007
I think it's a bit unfair and sexist that you're judging the entire female population on the behaviour of your co-workers. Just because some women can be bitchy and jealous doesn't mean we all are.
Jocko Homo
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“1-Kelly....beautiful...Comments made "and does`t she know it"

2-Gabby...comments...."She`s too competitive"

3-Alesha...comments.... "Too loud and irritating"

Well Gabby is no more competitive than Mark Ramprakash or Colin Jackson... Mark Ramprakash and James Martin were certainly not slated for being attractive.....Quite the opposite: as they still have fan threads on PAGE 1. Yes I`am a man and maybe Kelly has waved her magic wand and I`v fallen for her charms but I work in a female dominated enviroment and I know how the fairer sex react to very attractive women....I see and hear it every working day....They pick out out the tiniest flaw in their victims character and exploit and criticise it. This post is not meant to be personal but it`s just the observations of a man working in a female enviroment. and they let their guard down and forget I`am there: even though I`am their boss......although you would`t think it at times”

The problem with that argument is a) Gabby isn't really attractive at all
b) maybe a few people are irritated by Alesha (it's impossible to please all people at all times after all) but in general she is very popular at this stage.
gritty
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by swnymor1963:
“1-

I`am a man and ........................I work in a female dominated enviroment and I know how the fairer sex react to very attractive women....I see and hear it every working day....They pick out out the tiniest flaw in their victims character and exploit and criticise it. This post is not meant to be personal but it`s just the observations of a man working in a female enviroment. and they let their guard down and forget I`am there: even though I`am their boss......although you would`t think it at times”

Wow

I read these favourite/least favourite polls and enjoy them as a fun snapshot but know they are not necessarily representative – that’s because 400+ votes are a tiny minority. Other polls on the web show completely different results, as I would expect.

If 400+ to 7.5 million viewers is a tiny minority
I’m at a lost for a word that describes how small your sample is of female co-workers to the 3,291,805,000 females in the world.


I'm fascinated as to the management training courses you have attended and your academic knowledge of females in the workplace or female relationships.
jacquiann
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by Karura:
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I don't know; part of me is determined not to like them and the false modesty was grating but I enjoyed their rumba and it's still early days yet.”

Yes this is how I feel, I will give her the benefit of the doubt. Let's see if she can cut the mustard in a few more dances?
Tissy
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by Jocko Homo:
“The problem with that argument is a) Gabby isn't really attractive at all
b) maybe a few people are irritated by Alesha (it's impossible to please all people at all times after all) but in general she is very popular at this stage.”


Ohhh, if that`s the case I really like Gabby now
Chilli Dragon
17-10-2007
I neither love nor hate Kelly and Brendan. I do find I have to defend Kelly a lot from lots of un-called for bitching.
kittles
17-10-2007
I would love to have seen kelly dance with someone who wasn't going to perve all over the way that Brendan does. I just feel SCD played a cheap and easy card - "oooh yeh lets get the beautiful Kelly and the permenantly on heat Brendan to dance together so the public can enjoy him panting all over her and see how long it is before she slaps his face" yuk!!! I feel I'm being manipulated.

Kelly is stunning and comes across as a nice person but doon't buy for 1 second that she isn't completely aware of her effect on Brendan otherwise why would she turn up in those weeny little training outfits. I liked her comment about wanting to be seen as more than boobs and a smile and applaud her for it - trouble is she does undermine it a bit by the constant flashing. I can't wait to see her in a ballroom dress - she'll look amazing. Goes without saying she's a very good dancer

As for Brendan - yeh whatever
jtnorth
17-10-2007
I think a part of it (but not the whole) is that a lot of people are, interestingly, seeing Kelly v Alesha as the main competition, so people are taking against the one they see as main competition to their favourites. Alesha and Matt are massively popular on here, so Kelly's getting flack. I found another site on the internet (I won't say where - I don't want to start a war!) where you could vote for which girl should go next. Alesha was second to Kate with a massive vote (unfair on her dancing, surely) and Kelly had the least votes.

That's not all of it, and I'm not a big Kelly and Brendon fan myself, but I think that people only get a real battering on the site if they behave badly or if they are seen as serious contenders. At the moment, most of the men are not coming in for any criticism because they aren't being taken seriously - if they start dancing better, I'd expect people to start finding their personalities much more irritating.
Puffle
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by kittles:
“I would love to have seen kelly dance with someone who wasn't going to perve all over the way that Brendan does. I just feel SCD played a cheap and easy card - "oooh yeh lets get the beautiful Kelly and the permenantly on heat Brendan to dance together so the public can enjoy him panting all over her and see how long it is before she slaps his face" yuk!!! I feel I'm being manipulated.

Kelly is stunning and comes across as a nice person but doon't buy for 1 second that she isn't completely aware of her effect on Brendan otherwise why would she turn up in those weeny little training outfits. I liked her comment about wanting to be seen as more than boobs and a smile and applaud her for it - trouble is she does undermine it a bit by the constant flashing. I can't wait to see her in a ballroom dress - she'll look amazing. Goes without saying she's a very good dancer

As for Brendan - yeh whatever”


To be honest it wouldn't have mattered which pro they put her with, they'd all have been checking her out regardless of their sexuality - most, if not all, men would, as usual it's the BBC putting the spin on to show Brendan in a bad light AGAIN. I'm sure she puts him very firmly in his place but we're never shown that.

Personally, I found Vincents innuendo's to Louisa last year more disturbing than anything that Brendan's done to Kelly this year.
musicangel
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by Chilli Dragon:
“I neither love nor hate Kelly and Brendan. I do find I have to defend Kelly a lot from lots of un-called for bitching.”

Exactly and no one actually knows her... just bi**ing for the sake of it!
Frodora
17-10-2007
Originally Posted by kittles:
“Kelly is stunning and comes across as a nice person but doon't buy for 1 second that she isn't completely aware of her effect on Brendan otherwise why would she turn up in those weeny little training outfits.”

To be fair, she probably has not got anything that does not flash her body in her wardrobe!

I am not taking the mick, all my clothes are a bit low-cut because I have no neck (Trinny and Suzannah should be proud of me) and if someone tells me to wear something to cover myself up I would have to get an entirely new wardrobe!

I suspect it's the same for Kelly.
workshylady
17-10-2007
She's a beautiful woman and she makes her living off her looks. She appears to have talent as a dancer, and at the moment is one of the best if not the best.
BUT if she's doing things that irritate me, I'm not going to stay quiet about it just to avoid being accused of being 'jealous'. I agree that the flashing is a bit much, If she's going to have a low cut top on (which she needs as otherwise her boobs would look like a shelf) then it would be classier to wear a skirt rather than knickers.
On a bitchy note I know some people who have worked with her and they said she was a nice girl but looks a lot better on camera than in the flesh.
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