Would I be advised not to set any recordings for next week, given that PVRs seem to have trouble coping?

MS

As far as I can recall the Humax behaves in a more or less identical way to the Toppy (though Freeview Playback might have done weird things), in that timers are set in local time, so repeat timers should be ok.

One off timers that you set before the change for after it will be incorrect, so wait until next week to set them.

Of course, Accurate Recording might solve all this - but I guess it's a big unknown right now.

What, no one has written a TAP to cope with this on the Toppy?

Well, there are ways round it, yep. But I thought since this was the Humax area, I'd point out some useful information for their users.

Under the hood, there's an awful lot in common - I suspect they both rely on the same sample code for the NEC chipset, which would account for some of the common bugs.

Actually, if someone who has one of the models with Playback can let us know - does the EPG display correctly for programmes after the switchover - for instance, what time does it show The West Wing for on Sunday night?

It would be good if Playback addresses this old chestnut, but I don't recall seeing anything in the spec.

Yes, bdb wrote tot but it's been largely forgotten about due to its use being limited to twice a year.

That's more like it

Just wondered since I am thinking about getting the new Toppy whenever it comes out... depends on how well it does the upscaling...


I suppose neither Humax or Topfield can do anything about bugs within the chipset...

I think it's not so much the chipset itself that has bugs, but the sample "here's how to do X with our" stuff that you tend to get in the documentation of such chipsets.

Either that, or the various swapping of engineers between the two companies hasn't been quite as hygenic as it could have been!

Yes, many bugs are caused by taking the sample code in a plug and pray fashion without understanding exactly what they're doing with the hardware. Another factor is that software development kit samples are usually put together by junior engineers or in a hurry.

I'm away this weekend, what should I do to ensure my recordings on Sunday are OK?

I'm running the latest software (v15) but have never had to deal with the clock change before (been at home).

Can I set my timers for Sunday evening from the EPG (on Friday) then set the machine to turn on and off after the clock change? Will that sort it?

If not should I set timers manually? Would I need to set them using BST times e.g. setting Sunday 10pm-11pm (on Friday) should record 9pm - 10pm (Michael Palin)?

I think most things are repeated in the week (Palin, Sopranos etc.) but I'd like to know how to "beat" the clock change.

If the Hummy on version 1.00.15 software behaves the same as previous releases, the following should work:

(1) Reserve programs as normal.
(2) Review all reservations for times after the clocks change, and compare their times with those published in the Radio Times (other listing magazines are available).
(3) Adjust the times of the reservations to correspond to the published times.
(4) Set the "Auto On" facility to switch the Hummy on shortly after the clocks change (e.g. 90 minutes after), but before the next recording. This allows the Hummy to synchronise its internal clock with the broadcast time.
(5) Set "Auto Off" to switch off 5 minutes after the "Auto On" time.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

Hi

I thought part of Freeview Playback and stage 1 was ensuring any PVR handled the clock change correctly?

Mind you if Humax has spent as much time on fixing clock issues as they did implementing accurate record for stage 1, it's safer to consider it still broken/messed up and anything else is a bonus

Regards

Phil

Why does this thread remind me of "Groundhog Day"

It's that déjà vu, again.

I suppose if Humax just fixed it ......

Someone who is using v.15 should just test it and report back then we'll know if Group 1 has been correctly implemented.

So did I Phil!

GG

There speaks a volunteer

Sure I could do all that, but why not use my old video recorder instead! The Humax is supposed to be one-touch recording - easy right - not!

NB I noticed post clock change listings already appearing 1 hour later than advertised when viewed from the EPG. Eg. news listed 1 hour later than normal all next week and Gadget Show on Monday, shows as 9pm, but the trailer this evening advises new time of 8pm...so I hope the clock change thing is now sorted with v15.
So, back to your post - the last time when the clocks changed I missed some recordings, and I'm also away for several days too. So in case the change isn't sorted what I'm going to do is:

1) Ensure a power-on occurs well before my programme, to make sure clock change takes effect.

2) Set recording with EPG and cross fingers in hope EPG selections actually work - AND

3) Set recording for Monday's Gadget Show (at 8pm GMT) using manual recording starting at 6.58m until 10.02pm.
In case EPG selections doen't work - and since disc space is "cheap"! This way I avoid problems of one hour in either direction as it doesn't rely on correct :
a) clock, b) EPG or c) programme "starting" indicator.

Improvements welcomed - especially if they have tested v15 clock change scenarios already...

Browntea

I've noticed some of next week's scheduled recordings are an hour ahead.

To gtg: as I ain't away this weekend, I'll check on Sunday if my scheduled recordings have been adjusted with the time shift.

Yup just noticed this too, setting Mondays Corrie spotted everything an hour ahead on BBC and ITV - wonder what will happen after the clocks change...

Your corrie will record an hour later, but with no corrie as its alreay been on as it will record at the set time in the schedule and not the named programme.

The Humax (unless this has been changed - IIRC it's part of the Playback phase 1 requiremnts that this works properly) starts recording when it's clock shows the time in the schedule (or padding time beforehand) and ends it when it's clock shows the time that the schedule shows it should end (or padding afterwards/never if the time is skipped). The clock is only updated when the box is turned on or recording IIRC, and the guide displays all times with the offset in use when the guide was viewed. How Acurate recording deals with this I don't know.

This means (once the clock has been updated) repeat and manual recordings work fine, ones directly from the guide don't, but are an hour out.

A way of dealing with this is setting it to use GMT (instead of auto) a little beforhand and then getting all the times in the schuedule right (programmes after the clock change should line up with guide). Once the clocks change setting it back to auto might be a good idea.

Yes this is exactly what my scheduled recordings showed after the clock changed.
Most of my recordings are repeats so I just changed the 3 that were one-offs.

I have the 9200TB running v.15 and all the timers set before the clock change are still showing the correct times.So it looks as though that part of Group 1 is correct.Roll on Group 2 with series link.........