You'll be on 1.00.21 then

v.21 is not out yet

It night be v.31 by the time it does come out, judging by past performance.

Hopefully, the new firmware will come out before the new Toppy arrives to tempt possible new Hummy owners away...

Humax can't win really - either they release buggy firmware that everyone's going to tear to pieces and accuse them of incompetence or delay and work on removing bugs and making tweaks to make it work with the FP metadata (and annoy those who have been waiting for an OTA upgrade for a long time).

I think it is unfair when people post in these forums thinking they know better than Humax how to write code, test, and release, etc. If these people really know the best techniques and practices they should put it into practice and stop posting here ("If you are so clever, why are you hanging about in dead-end forums like this one", I would put to them.)

You can't blame that single Korean firmware developer who's been locked up in a box, given 101 projects to work on and expect him to work at his best and develop great techniques and skills. Humax can't even arrange to send him over to the UK to do some programming & testing, etc., like Topfield who are send a whole team over to work on the FP specs... So it is no surprised if we get half a product full of bugs or such a long delay between firmware updates...

As long as it is 'OR'. Long delays and buggy software will just remind people of computer software. A distinction that consumer goods producers are keen to maintain.

Well I think we can say that Humax have taken buggy software to a new height........

How can you argue that Humax can't win; when they release new software it takes us users less than an hour to find a bug normally - why can't they do that?

Take last time with AR, don't miss early starts or late finishes.........yer right - did not take a degree to use it and find it just did not work.

With the last firmware (FP G1) the DTG passed it fit so, I assume, Humax thought they had the green flag to release it... I guess this time around they've learnt their lesson, as FP G2 was passed by the DTG a while ago, but has not released...

I don't think Humax are any different to any other manufacturers in terms of buggy firmware. This argument has been stated many times before; if you check the other manufacturer's PVR specific forums, then there are bugs reports and gripes about those boxes in the same vein as with the Hummy... Even the Toppy has bugs in its firmware...

P.S. My previous rant wasn't aimed at you specifically...

No probs, it is just we have been here for a couple of years now and the quality of the software does not seem to improve really.

Why can't Humax just get the software corrected, rather than adding new bits with all the new problems that brings?

There wouldn't be a Humax forum if that was the case...

The process of writing and correcting firmware seems to be very long with Humax. They also got HUGELY distracted by the Freeview Playback certification.

I am surprised, but glad that the 9200T hasn't been discontinued by now and a new product replacing it, because it means that support (firmware) for it has continued. Although, I don't think much further work will be done on improving/removing bugs after the FP G2 firmware has been released (and maybe debugged).

Didn't you post the same email this time last year ??

This time around it looks like everything seems to have sorted itself out correctly.

The clock advanced an hour as it should and my scheduled timers, a mixture of once-only and series links, have all been corrected accordingly.

indeed, i was up, and (sadly) watched mine - at 0:59 the clock moved onto 2:00 !!!!
how cool was that!

what was weird is that the dvd recorder changes a few minutes later, and the VHS recorder later still - doesn't the signal just come from the beeb and they were all on bbc1 ????

i manually change the time. this morning the box was still set to gmt but the schedule was in gmt as well. all the recordings were set to start an hour before the guide time.

I set the box to gmt + 1, no change to schedule until I turned the box off/on via rocker switch then all times corrected themselves

I have Click (BBC-N24, 0430-0500) set on series via EPG, and that recorded the correct programme and the BBC news ticker showed the recording happened at the correct time.

The manual for my parents old VCR said it would get the time daily from the channel on preset 2 (default, you could change) at 00:05, 01:05, 02:05, and 03:05 - at least they changed time unlike the rubbish Goodmans DVD Recorder in the kitchen


Mines done the same, EXCEPT for stuff I selected in the guide last week on Five, which has ended up with times an hour out (then again they were shown as being on at the wrong time when those timers were set). Have had to reprogramme CSI:NY (one programme I really could do with Series Link working on seeing as it's shown a different time every week). Older "weekly" timers on five have stayed correct (e.g. Tuesday's CSI), as has anything I set manually (e.g. Neighbours, which I set up a few weeks before Five started showing it).

The two faults on the 9200T caused by the clock change still exist with the latest software. Fault one is that when in standby, the system clock does not update. So at 08:00 in the morning after the clocks change, a 9200T in standby will be displaying 07:00. Fault two is that if you use the EPG before the clocks change, to set up a programs after the clocks change, then the program times set in the schedule will be one hour out.

Not too difficult to get around these faults if you are in, but more of a problem if you are away from home. I bought my 9200T in Dec 05, and as a result of being on holiday in Mar 06, I had to reformat the hard disk due to these clock change faults.

Two things can happen because of fault two, depending on the length of the first program to be recorded after the clocks change. Suppose it is a long recording e.g. a one and a half hour program at 08:00 until 09:30 on Sunday morning after the clocks change. At 08:00 it will not start, the 9200T still thinks it is 07:00. At 09:00 it will start and correct the clock. It will then record for 30 minutes before switching off at 09:30. The first hour of the recording was missed. But whjat if it was set to record a short program, e.g. a 30 minute program from 08:00 to 08:30. Again at 08:00 the Humax thinks it is 07:00 and does not start. At 09:00 it starts recording and corrects the clock, setting it an hour forward. But it is in a confused state. The recording end time of 08:30 has already passed so it just keeps on recording and recording ....... This is what happened to me in Mar 06. I tried to delete the massive file it had produced several times, but the box just locked up each time. I had to reformat the disk to get the space back.

My Hummy runs 24/7, has updated the time correctly and the recording list seem to be correct.

Maybe you should just leave the Hummy running all the time...........

If you have the software update set to auto, then the box would have come out of standby at 4am, and the clock would have been adjusted.

...or just rely on the .21 'active standby' bug, which means that the machine is whirring away on most mornings...

It can't be a v21 bug otherwise it would happen on my Hummy, and it doesn't.

No, it definitely is. It happens when you have a series link scheduled for a programmme, but the Humax cannot find the next episode of the programme. It stays on all the time until it finds the next programme
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Nope not on mine...all 3 of them.

I have a series link set for Wild at Heart which finished for this series on 9th March (I’m leaving that one in the schedule to see if it gets deleted after a period of time). I have series links for F1 GP and MotoGP, both of which are usually on at two week intervals so the Hummy regularly can’t find the next program, so I have the conditions you describe.

Well it totally screwed me up. I had the film Dark Water scheduled for autotracking which was to end at 01:10 according to the EPG. I put the Humax in standby, and was watching a DVD and noticed that the time had changed to 2am and the recording light was still showing, but the sound from my stereo (the DVDs sound routed through the Humax) had cut out, but I did not notice straight away, and I only realised about two minutes later. I then took the Humax out of standby, pressed play to bring up the time bar which showed it wasn't recording, so I tried to bring up the recordings list which didn't appear so I put it back in standby and flicked the switch at the back, and it ran the startup sequence then went back to standby and so of course it has to run the startup sequence again, so I lost 5 minutes worth of the film before being able to press record to get the rest.

I don't know whether to blame the BBC for either a) incorrectly indicating the end of the recording, or b) not entering the epg schedule to indicate ending at 2:10am, or c) crap Humax software.

I would have thought that the Humax would internally store all times as GMT, and had clock change logic for display purposes only.