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It's that time of year again - pre-empting the clock change cock-up
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kev
30-03-2008
Originally Posted by tinkerbells:
“The two faults on the 9200T caused by the clock change still exist with the latest software. Fault one is that when in standby, the system clock does not update. So at 08:00 in the morning after the clocks change, a 9200T in standby will be displaying 07:00.”

Mine was displaying the correct time when I awoke this morning, still in proper standby (and that's with the F1 still scheduled in the past BTW).

I've noticed that some programmes just vanish from the listing after the last episode while others wait around though.

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“Fault two is that if you use the EPG before the clocks change, to set up a programs after the clocks change, then the program times set in the schedule will be one hour out.”

Doesn't appear to have affected the stuff I series linked last week, just the stuff on Five (where Accurate Record doesn't appear to work either).
dazbarber
30-03-2008
Mine seems to have worked fine - but I didn't risk the software being fixed. I did the following:

On Friday, when no recording was taking place, I put the Humax clock to GMT+1 and set timers for Sunday morning onwards via the EPG (setting the clock forward made the EPG times match the Radio Times).
I then put the clock back to AUTO and made sure that the Humax was set to turn on automatically at 7am on Sunday (first recording was to be Countryfile at 11am).
It continued to record correctly for Friday and Saturday and, lo and behold, it picked up the BST changeover at 7am this morning and has continued to record all the timers correctly. Weekly timers are also showing correctly (although we haven't reached the date of their showings yet) so I have no doubt that they'll be ok.

It was much easier than this with TiVo but I'll be sticking with this fail-safe solution... it would only be a hassle if going away on holiday which would mean that I wouldn't be around to check if it's worked.

Daz
Big-les
30-03-2008
Originally Posted by kev:
“Mine was displaying the correct time when I awoke this morning, still in proper standby (and that's with the F1 still scheduled in the past BTW).
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For your Hummy to be showing the correct time this morning while in standby you must have had the box on after 01:00 GMT last night or you have software Regular Auto Update enabled for a time during the night, 04:00 by default.
Big-les
30-03-2008
Originally Posted by dazbarber:
“Mine seems to have worked fine - but I didn't risk the software being fixed. I did the following:

On Friday, when no recording was taking place, I put the Humax clock to GMT+1 and set timers for Sunday morning onwards via the EPG (setting the clock forward made the EPG times match the Radio Times).
I then put the clock back to AUTO and made sure that the Humax was set to turn on automatically at 7am on Sunday (first recording was to be Countryfile at 11am).
It continued to record correctly for Friday and Saturday and, lo and behold, it picked up the BST changeover at 7am this morning and has continued to record all the timers correctly. Weekly timers are also showing correctly (although we haven't reached the date of their showings yet) so I have no doubt that they'll be ok.

It was much easier than this with TiVo but I'll be sticking with this fail-safe solution... it would only be a hassle if going away on holiday which would mean that I wouldn't be around to check if it's worked.

Daz”

I haven't messed with my clock at all, or worried about it, and my EPG recording reservations are showing correctly and so is my schedule.
dazbarber
30-03-2008
Excellent. In that case I'll risk setting it as normal in October. I also set my parents' Humax and thought I'd better do mine the same way as theirs this time around so that I would be able to tell if they were likely to have any problems (which would mean me rushing round to their place to sort it out).

Daz
dougk
30-03-2008
Ours seemed to work fine.... but then it was left switched on like it normally is!
Big-les
30-03-2008
Originally Posted by dazbarber:
“Excellent. In that case I'll risk setting it as normal in October. I also set my parents' Humax and thought I'd better do mine the same way as theirs this time around so that I would be able to tell if they were likely to have any problems (which would mean me rushing round to their place to sort it out).

Daz”

My first series linked recording today, MotoGP BBC2, recorded ok. Heatbeat ITV1 has started recording during the introduction, spot on as far as I'm concerned, and my third, Supernatural ITV2, has also started ok. If I was recording something during the night of the clock change I'd probably set an Auto On for before the recording start time so the Hummy picks up the current time.
Big-les
30-03-2008
Originally Posted by dougk:
“Ours seemed to work fine.... but then it was left switched on like it normally is!”

That's cheating.
dougk
30-03-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“That's cheating. ”

well on the plus side it means the epg is up to date also!
CyberSimian
31-03-2008
If you are using accurate record, the switch to daylight saving should not cause any problem -- it will look to the Hummy as though those programmes after the switch that were reserved before the switch have all changed time by one hour, and the Hummy will adjust its recording schedules accordingly. (The Hummy needs to have updated its internal clock at least one hour before the first recording after the switch to DST.)

But if you are using auto padding, the Hummy with version 1.00.21 software behaves the same as previous versions of the software -- those programmes after the switch that were reserved before the switch are one hour in error after daylight saving has occurred, and need to be rescheduled. This also applies to those channels that currently do not transmit the accurate-record data (e.g. Channel Five).

I have two Hummies -- one set to use accurate record (on BBC channels), and the other set to use auto-padding (on all other channels), and this is the behaviour that I have observed.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK
Neil1940
31-03-2008
I saw that the EPG times were an hour our before the clock change. Left the machine to do its thing and it came up trumps. After the clock change all the set programs for the next two days were correct so nothing to do on my wife's Humax.

On the other hand my Sky+ box got the lot wrong.

I had to be up and out for six BST so was able to correct my Sky+ box and very glad not to have to alter Humax .21, it was on default settings for other reasons.
Stone Free
31-03-2008
Well I definately don't give it full marks, because it doesn't handle programmes that are currently on when the transition happens
littlebird22
31-03-2008
Well I had no issues. I put the box into standby at 11pm on Saturday (I don't normally do this), woke up at 8am Sunday and the clock was correct. Also all my scheduled recordings were correct (mixture of series link and one off recordings)
betsvigi9
31-03-2008
I had a 'He Kills Coppers' recording failure last night, which I am guessing was somehow down to the clocks changing. I had it set up on series link and it only recorded the last two minutes of the programme. It's repeated during the week, so it's not the end of the world; bit strange though.
Big-les
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by littlebird22:
“Well I had no issues. I put the box into standby at 11pm on Saturday (I don't normally do this), woke up at 8am Sunday and the clock was correct. Also all my scheduled recordings were correct (mixture of series link and one off recordings)”

Have you got software Regular Auto Update enabled, otherwise how did the Hummy adjust the clock while in standby?
dazbarber
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by CyberSimian:
“But if you are using auto padding, the Hummy with version 1.00.21 software behaves the same as previous versions of the software -- those programmes after the switch that were reserved before the switch are one hour in error after daylight saving has occurred, and need to be rescheduled.”

Damn - in that case I take back what I said earlier - next time I will have to use my system of manually changing the clock, setting the post-clock-change-timers and then putting the clock back to auto again as I use autopadding. A shame, but as long as I know that this problem exists and how to get around it, then I can cope!

Daz
littlebird22
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“Have you got software Regular Auto Update enabled, otherwise how did the Hummy adjust the clock while in standby?”

I do have it set yes, but for 10:30am not 04:00
Stone Free
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by littlebird22:
“Well I had no issues. I put the box into standby at 11pm on Saturday (I don't normally do this), woke up at 8am Sunday and the clock was correct. Also all my scheduled recordings were correct (mixture of series link and one off recordings)”

Yes but if you didn't have a recording whose scheduled times encompass the clock change over, then you couldn't possibly be subject to the bug!

My clock changed correctly in "recording standby", its just that something vital went wrong, and I think the schedule was set in stone from the state of the EPG at the start of the recording, and so it stopped when it realised 01:10 is earlier than 02:00am.

The rest of my recordings, both repeats, one offs, and autotracking recorded OK.
Originally Posted by betsvigi9:
“I had a 'He Kills Coppers' recording failure last night, which I am guessing was somehow down to the clocks changing.”

My autotracking of 'He Kills Coppers', worked as did the Stephen Hawking documentary, although the warning message and the programmes list said 18:00 to 20:00, although it started at 19:00 as the EPG would have stated after the clock change happens.
dougk
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by betsvigi9:
“I had a 'He Kills Coppers' recording failure last night, which I am guessing was somehow down to the clocks changing. I had it set up on series link and it only recorded the last two minutes of the programme. It's repeated during the week, so it's not the end of the world; bit strange though.”


Nope - We had just two minute recording too... it was the beginning (well adverts!). ITV co**ed up.
Big-les
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by littlebird22:
“I do have it set yes, but for 10:30am not 04:00”

I wonder how that worked then, I have Regular Auto Update switched off and my 9200 was still on GMT in the morning until I switched it on.
Stone Free
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by dougk:
“Nope - We had just two minute recording too... it was the beginning (well adverts!). ITV co**ed up.”

What transmitter do you receive, thankfully Crystal Palace was correct
kev
31-03-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“For your Hummy to be showing the correct time this morning while in standby you must have had the box on after 01:00 GMT last night or you have software Regular Auto Update enabled for a time during the night, 04:00 by default.”

The auto update is active, but set to 18:00 so it doesn't wake me up at 04:00
wgmorg
01-04-2008
Did you have any reservations set between the clock change and when you switched it on?

I have auto update off... but had a reservation for Click which was recorded correctly.

Originally Posted by Big-les:
“I wonder how that worked then, I have Regular Auto Update switched off and my 9200 was still on GMT in the morning until I switched it on.”

Big-les
01-04-2008
Originally Posted by wgmorg:
“Did you have any reservations set between the clock change and when you switched it on?

I have auto update off... but had a reservation for Click which was recorded correctly.”

No I didn't, and with Regular Auto Update disabled my Hummy operated exactly as I expected, still on GMT in the morning. The question is how did littlebird22's Hummy clock update itself while in standby all night?
peter3hg
01-04-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“No I didn't, and with Regular Auto Update disabled my Hummy operated exactly as I expected, still on GMT in the morning. The question is how did littlebird22's Hummy clock update itself while in standby all night?”

The Humax turns itself on 10 minutes early for an AR so it would probably change the clock then and then go to sleep for another hour. Unfortunately this won't work when the clock goes the other way.
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