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Old 26-10-2007, 14:19
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Hi,

I'm debating 1080p vs HD compatible televisions for viewing mostly standard definition Sky. Limited budget of £1,500, and I'm keen on getting the largest screen possible with that cash.

Is it worth compromising and going in for a HD compatible panel with a larger screen size as opposed to a smaller screen which has Full HD?

Terribly confused!
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Old 26-10-2007, 15:19
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get the 1080P

some people in here will say what a lot of rubbish but your trying to future proof and once the blu ray / hd format war is over most dvds will be 1080 p anyway

playstation x-box 1080p just now so what are you waiting for?

get a 46 " and perfect for sd watching
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Old 26-10-2007, 15:56
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Hi,

I'm debating 1080p vs HD compatible televisions for viewing mostly standard definition Sky. Limited budget of £1,500, and I'm keen on getting the largest screen possible with that cash.

Is it worth compromising and going in for a HD compatible panel with a larger screen size as opposed to a smaller screen which has Full HD?
Unless you're viewing much too close for SD, any potential difference between Full HD and HD Ready can't really be seen. Certainly on broadcasts, even at VERY close range, the difference is just barely visible with two sets side by side. Viewing them seperately I wouldn't be able to tell you which was which.

As for SD viewing, certainly the Sony KDL40W2000 Full HD set is absolutely stunning on SD pictures.
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Old 26-10-2007, 15:56
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The most important thing is to get the best screen size for the distance you sit from it, big is not always better and may well be worse especially since you are only using SD. How far do you sit from the screen?

I would recommend that probably you should not go for full HD as they cost more and often give worse PQ than a non full HD set (mostly for SD though also for HD given that you can buy a better set for the same money). Going for a 1080p set that was not full HD might make sense though for future compatibility.
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Old 27-10-2007, 16:57
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Unless you're viewing much too close for SD, any potential difference between Full HD and HD Ready can't really be seen. Certainly on broadcasts, even at VERY close range, the difference is just barely visible with two sets side by side. Viewing them seperately I wouldn't be able to tell you which was which.

As for SD viewing, certainly the Sony KDL40W2000 Full HD set is absolutely stunning on SD pictures.
I'm keen on getting a larger screen (something atleast above 45"). Viewing distrance is about 10ft. What do you think of the Sony KDL46W2000? I know the 40" was ranked very highly by CNET. but not much info around the 46". The other alternative is the Samsung LE46F86


Ofcourse these are both 1080p panels. Since you suggest that there is not much of a difference would you recommend a plasma Panasonic? Say Panasonic Viera TH-50PX70
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Old 27-10-2007, 17:02
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The most important thing is to get the best screen size for the distance you sit from it, big is not always better and may well be worse especially since you are only using SD. How far do you sit from the screen?

I would recommend that probably you should not go for full HD as they cost more and often give worse PQ than a non full HD set (mostly for SD though also for HD given that you can buy a better set for the same money). Going for a 1080p set that was not full HD might make sense though for future compatibility.
I'm keen on getting a larger screen (something atleast above 45"). Viewing distrance is about 10ft. I've looked at info around appropriate viewing distances, and found equal amount of contradiction and controversy. I think what I need is a TV which shows good SD pictures on the largest possible screen.
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Old 27-10-2007, 17:04
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get the 1080P

some people in here will say what a lot of rubbish but your trying to future proof and once the blu ray / hd format war is over most dvds will be 1080 p anyway

playstation x-box 1080p just now so what are you waiting for?

get a 46 " and perfect for sd watching
What do you think of the Sony KDL46W2000? I know the 40" was ranked very highly by CNET. but not much info around the 46". The other alternative is the Samsung LE46F86
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Old 27-10-2007, 17:14
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i know you said you were on a budget, but if you could splash out a little more for the w3000, it will be better far better than the w2000 on sd pictures as the bravia ex engine has a built in upscaler.

the w2000 is still a brilliant set though
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Old 27-10-2007, 17:32
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i know you said you were on a budget, but if you could splash out a little more for the w3000, it will be better far better than the w2000 on sd pictures as the bravia ex engine has a built in upscaler.

the w2000 is still a brilliant set though
is there a 46" w3000 though? haven't heard of one. forgive my ignorance, but what does the bravia ex engine do with upscaling?
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Old 28-10-2007, 01:47
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i know you said you were on a budget, but if you could splash out a little more for the w3000, it will be better far better than the w2000 on sd pictures as the bravia ex engine has a built in upscaler.
All HD TV sets that will display SD have a built in upscaler otherwise they wouldn't work.
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Old 28-10-2007, 12:09
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is there a 46" w3000 though? haven't heard of one. forgive my ignorance, but what does the bravia ex engine do with upscaling?
All HD TV sets that will display SD have a built in upscaler otherwise they wouldn't work.
sorry my english is not very good there.

what i was meaning to say is the W series now has the superior bravia ex engine/ processor/ scaler, normally reserved for the top of the range X series

Correct the w3000 comes in 40, 46, 52 inch size. but you are paying £1999 for the 40 inch alone!
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Old 28-10-2007, 12:11
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however im sure that if you did not have a problem with internet buying you could find a good price on there
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Old 28-10-2007, 19:54
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sorry my english is not very good there.

what i was meaning to say is the W series now has the superior bravia ex engine/ processor/ scaler, normally reserved for the top of the range X series

Correct the w3000 comes in 40, 46, 52 inch size. but you are paying £1999 for the 40 inch alone!
Here is a brilliant deal for the 46 inch w3000 and you get a free playstation 3 £1,799.99

http://www.robertwhyteltd.co.uk/Site...20PLAYSTATION3
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Old 29-10-2007, 11:45
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Here is a brilliant deal for the 46 inch w3000 and you get a free playstation 3 £1,799.99

http://www.robertwhyteltd.co.uk/Site...20PLAYSTATION3
tHAT IS A VERY GOOD PRICE
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Old 31-10-2007, 13:50
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I'm keen on getting a larger screen (something atleast above 45"). Viewing distrance is about 10ft. I've looked at info around appropriate viewing distances, and found equal amount of contradiction and controversy. I think what I need is a TV which shows good SD pictures on the largest possible screen.
Most of the guidance you get in specialist press (e.g. What Hi-Fi) disagrees with you. 10 foot = 3 metres = 28-32" screen. Perhaps you should consider the 40" sets on the market like the KDL40W2000 or 3000 (which are all 1080p)
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Old 01-11-2007, 13:30
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Most of the guidance you get in specialist press (e.g. What Hi-Fi) disagrees with you. 10 foot = 3 metres = 28-32" screen. Perhaps you should consider the 40" sets on the market like the KDL40W2000 or 3000 (which are all 1080p)
Hmmm..thanks. maybe I should reconsider getting 50+ inch screen. I'll probably end up being unhappy with the picture as I'll end up being too close to the screen.
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Old 01-11-2007, 13:34
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Hmmm..thanks. maybe I should reconsider getting 50+ inch screen. I'll probably end up being unhappy with the picture as I'll end up being too close to the screen.
Yes, if you're watching SD you don't want to be too close, no matter what the set - but ten feet is fine for a 40 inch, and pushing it a bit for a 50 inch. If you've got a reasonable amount of HD though you need to be closer, or have a larger set.
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Old 01-11-2007, 13:35
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sorry my english is not very good there.

what i was meaning to say is the W series now has the superior bravia ex engine/ processor/ scaler, normally reserved for the top of the range X series

Correct the w3000 comes in 40, 46, 52 inch size. but you are paying £1999 for the 40 inch alone!
Thanks for that. maybe its worth waiting for the 46w3000 price to fall a bit and get it cheaper in a few months. So what your saying is the Bravia ex/ engine upscaler will possibly produce the best SD picture on any 1080p LCD panel that size?
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Old 01-11-2007, 14:57
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Why the Hell do you want a Sony?

get the Samsung 50" Plasma, its got a 15,000 contrast, loads better than the sony, its 1080p, and does not suffer from the slow refresh of the LCDs.

Im sure I have seen it for about £1,500
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:21
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Why the Hell do you want a Sony?

get the Samsung 50" Plasma, its got a 15,000 contrast, loads better than the sony, its 1080p, and does not suffer from the slow refresh of the LCDs.

Im sure I have seen it for about £1,500
Never *ever* trust published contrast figures - don't base your choice on that but go and see the sets for yourself.

There is no set standard for measuring contrast so each company measures in a different way making comparing them based on this figure difficult.
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