To work, the lift is meant to wow the audience with its apparent effortlessness. With Lilia looking petrified and Dom grimacing with pain the lift with or without collapse will only draw attention to failure.
Dom is doomed.
Dom is doomed.
Dom is Injured
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Originally Posted by claire2281:
“He was speaking about it on Radio 5 this morning.
He's apparently hurt the muscle around the rotator cuff. He has been told he shouldn't be doing anything but resting this weekend but he says he's going to dance whatever happens.
They're going to practice this afternoon and if he drops Lilia (
) they will think about removing the lifts. He hopes that with enough injections he'll be able to lift her regardless.”
“He was speaking about it on Radio 5 this morning.
He's apparently hurt the muscle around the rotator cuff. He has been told he shouldn't be doing anything but resting this weekend but he says he's going to dance whatever happens.
They're going to practice this afternoon and if he drops Lilia (
) they will think about removing the lifts. He hopes that with enough injections he'll be able to lift her regardless.”
He is being utterly ridiculous, and if he gets the sympathy vote for doing something dangerous that the doctors have advised he doesn't do, I will be seriously annoyed for depriving the chance of someone else getting through.
What happens if Dom doesn't dance tonight? Will someone else still get booted off (I'm guessing so otherwise tonight's show would be pointless)? If so, could we potentially lose two couples this week? 
I have heard that dislocation of a shoulder (arm slipping out of socket joint) is the worst, most electrifying pain known to medicine.
Originally Posted by Mistermind:
“I have heard that dislocation of a shoulder (arm slipping out of socket joint) is the worst, most electrifying pain known to medicine.”
“I have heard that dislocation of a shoulder (arm slipping out of socket joint) is the worst, most electrifying pain known to medicine.”
I can list scores of other medical conditions that are much more painful. When I worked in A&E I had people walk in holding their arms with posterior dislocations they'd had all day. They'd describe no more than a dull ache.
Anyway, Dominic most certainly did not dislocate his shoulder so not sure why this was mentioned. He appears to have had a soft tissue injury to one of his rotator cuff muscles and like most STIs, the muscle needs rest, ice and compression. With enough analgesia he should be fine to dance tonight but attempting lifts could be risky. They're not compulsory anyway so it won't be the end of the world.
Maybe they could get away with it as he doesn't have to do it every week he only has to do it right once, so its not impossible. I wish them luck and hope they perform well and get through fairly, without people calling it a sympathy vote.
Dislocation was mentioned as a possible(?) outcome.
If it's unlikely, then dislocation is irrelevant.
If a lift was attempted early on in the dance, and resulted in stoppage of the dance, it would be hard to think how the judges can avoid marking Dom bottom without facing a charge of favouritism.
If phone voters rescue Dom into second bottom, then he faces an even worse repetition in the dance-off -- if he can do it at all.
If it's unlikely, then dislocation is irrelevant.
If a lift was attempted early on in the dance, and resulted in stoppage of the dance, it would be hard to think how the judges can avoid marking Dom bottom without facing a charge of favouritism.
If phone voters rescue Dom into second bottom, then he faces an even worse repetition in the dance-off -- if he can do it at all.
kate is getting the sympathy vote so why would it be so wrong for Dom to get the same treatment?
one rule for one and one rule for the other it sounds like here
All the best for tonight Dom hope you do us proud - with or without lifts!
one rule for one and one rule for the other it sounds like here
All the best for tonight Dom hope you do us proud - with or without lifts!
Originally Posted by olivej:
“kate is getting the sympathy vote so why would it be so wrong for Dom to get the same treatment?
one rule for one and one rule for the other it sounds like here
All the best for tonight Dom hope you do us proud - with or without lifts!”
“kate is getting the sympathy vote so why would it be so wrong for Dom to get the same treatment?
one rule for one and one rule for the other it sounds like here
All the best for tonight Dom hope you do us proud - with or without lifts!”
I just don't think it does the dancers confidence and belief in themselves to know they are only there due to a sympathy vote. Also they may feel guilty if they stay over a better dancer.
well you cant stop the GBP voting for who they want to vote for whether it be a sympathy vote or not
If they stay I don't think it will be due to a sympathy vote, he's by no means the worst dancer there and he's obviously not hugely unpopular to have avoided the bottom two last week (not that we can really tell how well he did with the votes, but we do know that he beat John for whatever reason).
Also if Dom did get a sympathy vote and the result was that Kate left, I don't think that would be a bad thing!
Also if Dom did get a sympathy vote and the result was that Kate left, I don't think that would be a bad thing!
Dom said on the Eamon Holmes show this morning that he threw himself on the mat to prove to Lilia that it 'would not' hurt if he dropped her while rehearsing.
How foolish of him.
If he goes out it is his own fault
How foolish of him.
If he goes out it is his own fault
I am hoping he does stay tbh but what is annoying me on here is why certain people think its wrong that he should even be allowed to think about getting a sympathy vote when other celebs are clearly getting one
Why is everyone so down on Dom?
Why is everyone so down on Dom?
I think it's one thing to choreograph a routine without lifts, another thing entirely to choreograph one with lifts and then take just those moves out. It would be very difficult to slot another move into the choreography like that, especially since the lifts will probably be at the high spot of the dance.
Plus the other AS routines will all have lifts, and they are crowd pleasers, so Dom and Lilia will probably be reluctant not to do them unless they absolutely can't.
Plus the other AS routines will all have lifts, and they are crowd pleasers, so Dom and Lilia will probably be reluctant not to do them unless they absolutely can't.
I don't think Lilia would let him lift her if she thought there was a decent chance he wouldn't be able to pull it off. She won't want to get injured herself.
And dropping your partner on her head during the live show is a tad extreme for getting sympathy votes. I know Dominic says he's competitive but jeez!
And dropping your partner on her head during the live show is a tad extreme for getting sympathy votes. I know Dominic says he's competitive but jeez!
Originally Posted by olivej:
“kate is getting the sympathy vote so why would it be so wrong for Dom to get the same treatment?
!”
“kate is getting the sympathy vote so why would it be so wrong for Dom to get the same treatment?
!”
Is it sympathy vote that Kate is getting or is it a protest at the attitude the judges have to her?
Originally Posted by tonycollins100:
“Is it sympathy vote that Kate is getting or is it a protest at the attitude the judges have to her?”
“Is it sympathy vote that Kate is getting or is it a protest at the attitude the judges have to her?”
IMO it's people feeling sympathetic because the judges (well some of them) are horrible to her, not because of her injury.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“IMO it's people feeling sympathetic because the judges (well some of them) are horrible to her, not because of her injury.”
“IMO it's people feeling sympathetic because the judges (well some of them) are horrible to her, not because of her injury.”
So that's a YES then.
Originally Posted by tonycollins100:
“Is it sympathy vote that Kate is getting or is it a protest at the attitude the judges have to her?”
“Is it sympathy vote that Kate is getting or is it a protest at the attitude the judges have to her?”
IMO its a sympathy vote from the GBP
Originally Posted by olivej:
“IMO its a sympathy vote from the GBP”
“IMO its a sympathy vote from the GBP”
I agree, I think it's about both her injury and the judges treatment of her.
Of course Anton could be getting a lot of votes too, he has a lot of fans .... he could be getting the sympathy vote too
Originally Posted by jive bunny:
“What happens if Dom doesn't dance tonight? Will someone else still get booted off (I'm guessing so otherwise tonight's show would be pointless)? If so, could we potentially lose two couples this week?”
“What happens if Dom doesn't dance tonight? Will someone else still get booted off (I'm guessing so otherwise tonight's show would be pointless)? If so, could we potentially lose two couples this week?
”
On SDF one couple was injured and couldn't dance and were just awarded no points. On the leaderboard they were given last place and 1 point; the public still saved them though
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“What happened last year with J Tarbuck ?
Did he miss a week dancing ?”
“What happened last year with J Tarbuck ?
Did he miss a week dancing ?”
Jimmy did a waltz in week one and that was it - he was advised by his doctors not to participate and he pulled out
Quote:
Originally Posted by claire2281
IMO it's people feeling sympathetic because the judges (well some of them) are horrible to her, not because of her injury.
That was a NO.
It was an antipathy vote, not a sympathy vote.
Originally Posted by claire2281
IMO it's people feeling sympathetic because the judges (well some of them) are horrible to her, not because of her injury.
Originally Posted by tonycollins100:
“So that's a YES then.”
“So that's a YES then.”
That was a NO.
It was an antipathy vote, not a sympathy vote.
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