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Brendan's lifts! Losing her marks two weeks running!
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Austen1984
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Spinaker5:
“You have a very good point here. I don't think four '10's at this stage in the competition would have done Kelly any favours. It's going to be hard for any of the girls to compete with Matt and Gethin as the competition goes on. despite appearances, Brendon isn't stupid.”

I think its a little far to suggest that Brendan deliberatly try to sabotage her getting four tens in order to keep the public backing her.
Lemon Lyman
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“Also, am I crazy or did Kate and Anton do a lift as well and it was blatantly ignored?”

Yes she did - not sure she was meant to though
Austen1984
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Lemon Lyman:
“Yes she did - not sure she was meant to though”

I didn't see that - but I do think there is a big difference between an illegal move made my accident which should be classed just as a mistake - and an illegal moved choreographed into the dance which should be classed as cheating.

I remember last year someone did a lift by accident (one of the celebrities couldn't quite keep their foot on the ground or something) and Len pointed it out but said it was just an accident and didn't severly mark them down for it.
dottiep
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Lukey37:
“Why is he so selfish? It's not about you Brendan its about Kelly.”

What we have to remember is that Kelly was aware of the three lifts and if she was sensible she should have refused to do it. Because, as has been said, SHE is the one who is being marked not Brendan. She seemed to think it was funny. Nobody was anywhere near them with that dance though. BTW these two are my favourites.
merry_mead
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Lemon Lyman:
“Yes she did - not sure she was meant to though”

I think it was a mistake and I think Craig mentioned it.
Austen1984
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by dottiep:
“What we have to remember is that Kelly was aware of the three lifts and if she was sensible she should have refused to do it. Because, as has been said, SHE is the one who is being marked not Brendan. She seemed to think it was funny. Nobody was anywhere near them with that dance though. BTW these two are my favourites.”

As I've said before he's the choreographer not her. They footage showed her wanting to put moves in and him ignoring that. He has to take responsibilty. Anyway - if it was out of character it could be questioned more - but he always does this. I loved the dance - but it was completely overshawdowed by Brendan's rule breaking. Perhaps that was his intention.
dottiep
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“He wasn't let off last year was he him and Claire got poor marks every week anyway ... Wasn't he called a prawn head last year for doing it ...”

I agree, Kaos. He certainly wasn't let off last year. Len and Bruno held it against him till the end. They were very spiteful. At least Arlene and Craig penalised him and drew a line underneath it.
merry_mead
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Austen1984:
“As I've said before he's the choreographer not her. They footage showed her wanting to put moves in and him ignoring that. He has to take responsibilty. Anyway - if it was out of character it could be questioned more - but he always does this. I loved the dance - but it was completely overshawdowed by Brendan's rule breaking. Perhaps that was his intention.”

After his ( Brendan ) mucking up last week, why deliberately do something knowing they would be marked down this week ???
Vivacious Lady
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Austen1984:
“I remember last year someone did a lift by accident (one of the celebrities couldn't quite keep their foot on the ground or something) and Len pointed it out but said it was just an accident and didn't severly mark them down for it.”

I think Matt and Carol did an illegal lift by accident last year and they were penalised by some of the judges.

I agree that there is a difference between accidental and deliberate. What is really frustrating is that Brendan can choreograph really elegant ballroom (e.g. his foxtrot to "blue moon" with Claire last year and his dances with Natasha). So there is no need for him to add gimmicks especially since he has a good partner. Also would have liked to have seen more dancing in hold (like Matt and Flavia).

Oh by the way, I'vejust joined the forum and so "hello" to everyone!
Austen1984
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Vivacious Lady:
“I think Matt and Carol did an illegal lift by accident last year and they were penalised by some of the judges.

I agree that there is a difference between accidental and deliberate. What is really frustrating is that Brendan can choreograph really elegant ballroom (e.g. his foxtrot to "blue moon" with Claire last year and his dances with Natasha). So there is no need for him to add gimmicks especially since he has a good partner. Also would have liked to have seen more dancing in hold (like Matt and Flavia).

Oh by the way, I'vejust joined the forum and so "hello" to everyone!”


Hello Vivacious Lady - welcome to the forum!

Yeah - Brendan can choreograph great dances. I actually loved his paso with Sarah (flash dance or not!) although he got a lot of stick for it! His ballroom ones are lovely too! - I think the best choreographers in general have to be Darren and Lillia though!
Lemon Lyman
28-10-2007
Just playing the devil's advocate

I know that Kate's lift was an accident, but knowing that she isn't very good at control was Anton a bit daft to do that move knowing that she would mess it up. I was definately a move that was crowd pleasing and one that would not involve kate doing much apart from keeping her feet on the floor

As much as Brendan is being critised for his cherography (sp?) was Anton a bit naive as well
musicangel
28-10-2007
im in america!! Didnt even see the lift but dont even care!! they got a ten!!
musicangel
28-10-2007
NEGATIVITY!!! *Blows rasberry*
mossy2103
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“I said excatly the same thing! I just knew he wouldnt waste a lift on a supported leg kick.

Some of the professionals faces backstage were a sight to behold -Matt Cutler did NOT look pleased when the 10 was dished out and who can blame him.”

Yes, Bruno was totally wrong to mark a 10, it makes a mockery of those sticking to the rules, and cheapens the competition.
Agent Krycek
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“NEGATIVITY!!! *Blows rasberry*”

Sorry, I know you love him, but he was a complete prat last night, and instead of getting the public on his side, he's hacking a lot of people off. It was a lovely routine, him and Kelly looked brilliant together, but with the lift right at the start I, and I suspect a lot of people, were concentrating more on waiting for the obvious third lift, instead of enjoying a really lovely routine.


Bruno was a complete idiot, I've always liked him, but right now I want him chucked off the panel, really looking forward to him attempting to justify the 10 on ITT
Vivacious Lady
28-10-2007
I don't think people are being negative. I think that when Brendan is good, he is very good and I want him to do well. However, like most other people, I'm puzzled as to why he felt he had to do three lifts. It seems to be almost self-destructive.

Bruno deserves criticism for ignoring the third lift. The judges have been particularly scathing about the general public and the way they vote, and so I would expect the judges to bring an appreciation of technique and awareness of rules to the job they do. i.e. otherwise what is it that differentiates them from the general public?

Austen1984. I agree Darren and Lillia are great choreographers. They are especially good at bringing out the best in their partners.
Kaos
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Yes, Bruno was totally wrong to mark a 10, it makes a mockery of those sticking to the rules, and cheapens the competition.”

I would like to say (and this isn't aimed at you mossy even though I'm quoting you ) that I am a big Brendan fan and am one of the first people to get annoyed and angry at him when he's being a numpty and did get annoyed and angry at him last night...

The lift was wrong, he should have been punished, he should keep his gob shut and get on with dancing, ITT shouldn't bend to letting Kelly and Brendan on this week and totally ignore it...

BUT people are acting like Brendan demanded to have Brunos 10... Like it was actually Brendan and Kellys fault they got the 10... All the 'he's getting away with this' blah blah blah, yeah he might have but that was down to Bruno not Brendan... Craig said something along the lines that he'd give them a 10 and gave them an 8 so deducted points... YOU might not have liked the dance but it looks like the judges did bar the one lift so he lost marks for it... I do think giving him a REALLY low score would have served him right but 8s were fair...

Even Brendans biggest fans (and we're some of the most passionate fans around ) are annoyed if you look on his thread we've been totally p*ssed at it... But you have to separate the two moronic parts of last night...

Brendan-Idiot for the 3 lifts...
Bruno-Idiot for the 10... Brendan didn't force him to reward them for cheating, Bruno is just a moron...

Rant over ...
dancingbearbear
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“Its not so much the lifts that annoy me but Brendans misguided idea that he is doing the world a favour by throwing in an extra lift! :yawn:

Did you hear him when he was being criticied -he was all 'im doing it for the viewers' or some such other nonsense. His ego knows no bounds (and please note, I am not a Brendan hater but he has begun to irritate me). Also surprised that Kelly knew but didnt seem to care?


Other professionals (Darren , Matthew etc) used clever choreography to mix up their dances a little, still make them flashy, yet not break the rules. ”

Made me gag ~ how patronising and arrogant.
Austen1984
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“I would like to say (and this isn't aimed at you mossy even though I'm quoting you ) that I am a big Brendan fan and am one of the first people to get annoyed and angry at him when he's being a numpty and did get annoyed and angry at him last night...

The lift was wrong, he should have been punished, he should keep his gob shut and get on with dancing, ITT shouldn't bend to letting Kelly and Brendan on this week and totally ignore it...

BUT people are acting like Brendan demanded to have Brunos 10... Like it was actually Brendan and Kellys fault they got the 10... All the 'he's getting away with this' blah blah blah, yeah he might have but that was down to Bruno not Brendan... Craig said something along the lines that he'd give them a 10 and gave them an 8 so deducted points... YOU might not have liked the dance but it looks like the judges did bar the one lift so he lost marks for it... I do think giving him a REALLY low score would have served him right but 8s were fair...

Even Brendans biggest fans (and we're some of the most passionate fans around ) are annoyed if you look on his thread we've been totally p*ssed at it... But you have to separate the two moronic parts of last night...

Brendan-Idiot for the 3 lifts...
Bruno-Idiot for the 10... Brendan didn't force him to reward them for cheating, Bruno is just a moron...

Rant over ...”


Hi - I come at it from the opposite end - as a very vehement NON Brendan fan - but I agree with you!

Brendan's at fault for one thing, Bruno for another!
allisonbm2
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“I would like to say (and this isn't aimed at you mossy even though I'm quoting you ) that I am a big Brendan fan and am one of the first people to get annoyed and angry at him when he's being a numpty and did get annoyed and angry at him last night...

The lift was wrong, he should have been punished, he should keep his gob shut and get on with dancing, ITT shouldn't bend to letting Kelly and Brendan on this week and totally ignore it...

BUT people are acting like Brendan demanded to have Brunos 10... Like it was actually Brendan and Kellys fault they got the 10... All the 'he's getting away with this' blah blah blah, yeah he might have but that was down to Bruno not Brendan... Craig said something along the lines that he'd give them a 10 and gave them an 8 so deducted points... YOU might not have liked the dance but it looks like the judges did bar the one lift so he lost marks for it... I do think giving him a REALLY low score would have served him right but 8s were fair...

Even Brendans biggest fans (and we're some of the most passionate fans around ) are annoyed if you look on his thread we've been totally p*ssed at it... But you have to separate the two moronic parts of last night...

Brendan-Idiot for the 3 lifts...
Bruno-Idiot for the 10... Brendan didn't force him to reward them for cheating, Bruno is just a moron...

Rant over ...”

Here here! well said Kaos
Lemon Lyman
28-10-2007
Totally agree Kaos - very well said
dancing fan
28-10-2007
Brendan put in an extra lift to keep himself and Kelly in the headlines and to maintain his 'bad boy' image - looks like it has done the trick!
Cat Balou
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by Austen1984:
“Hi - I come at it from the opposite end - as a very vehement NON Brendan fan - but I agree with you!

Brendan's at fault for one thing, Bruno for another!”

I agree that Brendan was an idiot and asking for trouble when he put in 3 lifts. Then Bruno was a complete fool for giving them a 10!

However, it's a Saturday night TV show and I'm up for a bit of naughtiness, ranting and diva-like strops as long as it's entertaining.

If I don't like what someone does, I don't have to vote for them or even watch them if it comes to that!
saggy1
28-10-2007
In total agreement with you Kaos.
Austen1984
28-10-2007
Originally Posted by dancing fan:
“Brendan put in an extra lift to keep himself and Kelly in the headlines and to maintain his 'bad boy' image - looks like it has done the trick!”

You would have thought he would have done a much better lift though wouldn't you? Weird!
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