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Old 27-10-2007, 19:55
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You say it's only one extra point that's being blown out of proportion, but although the programme is for charity, it is after all a dancing competition and you just can't give a perfect score for an illegal dance? That is just totally making a complete mockery of the other professionals who kept to the rules and only had two lifts IMO
totally agree,
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Old 27-10-2007, 19:57
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I thought the dance was GREAT!
No one is disputing that the dance was great, it's the fact an extra lift was illegally included and rather than deduct marks accordingly a judge decided that it was a perfect performance! I personally preferred Matt's AS and given the criteria set by Bruno he too should have received a 10 because not only was a very good dance it was also within the rules!!!
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Old 27-10-2007, 19:57
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You say it's only one extra point that's being blown out of proportion, but although the programme is for charity, it is after all a dancing competition and you just can't give a perfect score for an illegal dance? That is just totally making a complete mockery of the other professionals who kept to the rules and only had two lifts IMO
You and some others need to take a long, hard look at some of Len's scores tonight. How interesting that his blatant over-marking of some of the dross is attracting so little comment.

Honestly...I'm just arguing for a bit of perspective here.
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Old 27-10-2007, 19:57
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For what it's worth i thought i thought Kelly and Brendan's dance was fantastic, but Kelly admitted she knew they were breaking the rules,so if she was that bothered about it she surely could have said to Brendan she wasn't comfortable doing it.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:00
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Easy answer to breaking the rules.
Kick them out the competition.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:01
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it was good but didnt deserve a 10 because of the extra lift!
I'd have given them 11
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:01
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You and some others need to take a long, hard look at some of Len's scores tonight. How interesting that his blatant over-marking of some of the dross is attracting so little comment.

Honestly...I'm just arguing for a bit of perspective here.
yeh but a 10 is saved for perfection and it wasnt perfect because they had an extra lift in there..... len did over mark on some of the dances though! !!
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:02
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Even without the extra lift, it shouldn't have been a 10. A 9 at most 8 if you deduct for the lift. IMO.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:03
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Even without the extra lift, it shouldn't have been a 10. A 9 at most 8 if you deduct for the left. IMO.
TBH thats what i thought to...flavia and matt deserved a 10 though!
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:03
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For what it's worth i thought i thought Kelly and Brendan's dance was fantastic, but Kelly admitted she knew they were breaking the rules,so if she was that bothered about it she surely could have said to Brendan she wasn't comfortable doing it.
I don't remember Kelly saying that, but I am now going to watch it again.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:04
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You and some others need to take a long, hard look at some of Len's scores tonight. How interesting that his blatant over-marking of some of the dross is attracting so little comment.

Honestly...I'm just arguing for a bit of perspective here.
Len overmarks, granted. But as he consistently does it it ensures noone has an unfair advantage over anyone else. Bruno doing what he did tonight could theoretically affect who goes tonight. He should have given an 8 and maybe those ridiculous extra two marks will keep Kelly and the Doughnut out of the bottom two?? I dont think for a minute they are in danger of going, but you see the point I am making.

Just want to add that, as it stands, I want Kelly and Brendan to win the entire thing, so I am not biased against them.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:05
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Bruno giving a perfect score after an illegal lift angered me greatly. even more so because both kelly and brendon knew it shouldnt have been included, but included it anyway....showing complete lack of respect for the rules. and that is a disgrace. Brendon's arrogance annoys me.

even bigger a disgrace than Brendon's arrogance in adding an extra lift despite knowing it wasnt allowed, is Bruno giving a 10. they need a new judge next year. a competent judge who bloody downgrades when rules are broken! the dance cant be perfect with an illegal lift in.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:07
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yeh but a 10 is saved for perfection and it wasnt perfect because they had an extra lift in there..... len did over mark on some of the dances though! !!
Well you could argue that a '10' is never justified.

My point is that Bruno's 10 for Kelly is dead easy to criticise. Len's 6, 6 and 7 for Kate, Kenny and John if anything makes more of a mockery of the 'competition' but is conveniently ignored by many.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:08
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Even without the extra lift, it shouldn't have been a 10. A 9 at most 8 if you deduct for the lift. IMO.
I thought it was a 9/10 bordering 10/10. As its still early in the competition and Kelly can still improve I would have given 9/10
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:10
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Even without the extra lift, it shouldn't have been a 10. A 9 at most 8 if you deduct for the lift. IMO.
I thought (without the extra lift of course) that it was a 9 or 10 performance... Personally I loved it so would have given it a 10...

WITH the lift it was a 8 dance end of... If Bruno wanted to be 'different' a 9 was the highest he should have gone, or gone totally the other way and give them a 3 for every lift ...
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:10
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if it was not for brendon brecking the rules it would had been easily 4 10 across the board
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:12
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if it was not for brendon brecking the rules it would had been easily 4 10 across the board
yeh agree or at least 2 9's and 2 10's
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:14
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if it was not for brendon brecking the rules it would had been easily 4 10 across the board
exactly!!! that's the ****ing point!!!!

by throwing in an illegal lift he ruined the opportunity for them to have a minimum of score of 37 but probably more
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:14
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However, the near hysteria over one 'illegal' lift does make me laugh when the standard of some of the dancing tonight was quite poor.

I may be in a chilled-out minority....but I'd MUCH rather watch Kelly and Brendan stylishly bending the rules than Kate, Kenny and John stumble and stagger around.
I don't see any real hysteria, just discussion about a talking point on the show. We would all like to see a show full of stylish, entertaining performances, but the show has rules that ALL the contestants should abide by or get marks deducted by ALL judges.

And three out of four judges marked Kelly & Brendan down for their heinous rule-break.

I do hate to bring facts into the discussion but they didn't exactly get away with anything regardless of some of the OTT comments on here.

Bruno's a plonker...but it would be silly to blow one extra point out of proportion wouldn't it?
I don't think any of the comments on here are OTT they are just stating facts, a 10 is for a faultless dance and it's not faultless if a rule was broken, it's not as if Bruno didn't notice it, it was blatant and pointed out by all the other judges.

You and some others need to take a long, hard look at some of Len's scores tonight. How interesting that his blatant over-marking of some of the dross is attracting so little comment.

Honestly...I'm just arguing for a bit of perspective here.
Yes Len does overmark but he does for most people, but he doesn't give a perfect 10 when a rule break has taken place.

I enjoyed Brendan and Kelly's dance, it's a shame Brendan had to do his usual and spoil it.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:15
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Like everyone else here, I am somewhat angry and appalled at the illegal lift and the score of 10 it achieved.

Really, what is the point of rules when people keep breaking them?

I think that the arrogance of the pair of them should be dealt with by getting rid of them. When personalities seem to believe that they come before the show, then it's time to get in some new blood...people who will respect the competition and the rules.

Yes, there was strange marking going on elsewhere tonight but that's for another thread...
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:16
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Len overmarks, granted. But as he consistently does it it ensures noone has an unfair advantage over anyone else. Bruno doing what he did tonight could theoretically affect who goes tonight. He should have given an 8 and maybe those ridiculous extra two marks will keep Kelly and the Doughnut out of the bottom two?? I dont think for a minute they are in danger of going, but you see the point I am making.

Just want to add that, as it stands, I want Kelly and Brendan to win the entire thing, so I am not biased against them.
I couldn't disagree more. Len is as guilty of favouritism and inconsistency as any of the judges.

I prefer Craig and Arlene because they give themselves space to mark fairly.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:17
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Everyone else followed the rules. You could understand it if more people broke them but it is always just Brendan.
It' not always Brendan who broke the rules. It is whenever Brendan broke the rule it was ALWAYS mentioned and debated. Others did it too but they were hardly mentioned. Last year Carol and Matthew's American Smooth has 3 lifts too but only Craig mentioned it. I don't think people even paid attention to it afterward. But since it's Brendan, it's a completely different story. See how many threads have been talking about this now and I expect more to come next week in ITT.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:19
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Bruno should be put out to grass. His comments are pointless, his bias once again is blantant and giving Kelly a 10 when she broke the rules (or selfish Brendan did) is ridiculous.

Craig, though bitchy, has been fairly sensible this series...but Bruno is a div.
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:21
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I couldn't disagree more. Len is as guilty of favouritism and inconsistency as any of the judges.

I prefer Craig and Arlene because they give themselves space to mark fairly.

I am no fan of Len and much prefer Craig and Arlene as well. Was just making the point that I think Len is at least consistent in his overmarking!
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Old 27-10-2007, 20:21
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Easy answer to breaking the rules.
Kick them out the competition.
Yes - most other competitions would have done this.
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