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Dom protests vote was rigged and unfair (Breakfast & Daily Mail)
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kay_bee
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
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Also, from what I've always heard the judges don't sit in on a any rehearsals. In fact, that's when they get their make-up and hair done.”

They do get to see the training videos and comment on them on ITT. And they clearly have prepared comments (jokes). It's rare to see them genuinely change their mind. But I did detect that they were surprised by how well Kate did....or more to the point how well Anton had taught her!
Endemoniada
05-11-2007
Dom should count himself lucky he was in the same series as 'dreadful' and 'appalling' Kelly Brook....otherwise he'd have been REALLY unpopular.
Cantank
05-11-2007
I started out quite liking Dom - he seemed to be trying hard despite looking like a munchkin - but then he started to whine at every opportunity. By the end his constant pawing of Lillia had me retching and he just came over as a sleazy little bloke with a chip on his shoulder.

He seems to be from that bleating school where whining and moaning about perceived unfairness is supposed to win prizes - rather than being the best.
peaches41
05-11-2007
Not much of a "cheeky chappie" now, is he??
minnie19
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by Cantank:
“I started out quite liking Dom - he seemed to be trying hard despite looking like a munchkin - but then he started to whine at every opportunity. By the end his constant pawing of Lillia had me retching and he just came over as a sleazy little bloke with a chip on his shoulder.

He seems to be from that bleating school where whining and moaning about perceived unfairness is supposed to win prizes - rather than being the best.”

exactly what you said im so glad he's goon he gave me the creeps. i didnt like him before anyway, cant believe some of my licence fee helps to make the rubbish programmes hes on too. did anyone see him on the apprentice your fired at the start of the year? he was defending that oter clown katie, i just knew then that he was not a vary nice man. i fel so sorry for lilia having to put up with him all week!
fbarrett
05-11-2007
Whatever any one says about Dom I think the judging was odd. They are supposed to vote on the dance off otherwise what is the point in having one. yet the judges talk about how much better John Barnes was overall. That maybe the case but that is not the point in judging the dance off. Fair? Definitely biased in my view. John Barnes may or may not have danced better in the dance off, I cannot comment because I am not an expert but the judges didnt say that They didnt like Dom pure and simple.

Dom is apparently happy to laugh at himself but to his credit he did take the show seriously. For that he should be given credit.
Austen1984
05-11-2007
Dom was delusional about how good he was - he claimed that Matt slipped on his knee and yet got 32 while he delivered a 'flawless' performance and got 25. What he doesn't realise is because he gets the steps right it doesn't make him a better dancer.

Also - he was downright pervy on Saturday. A friend of mine was in the audience and she said it was really uncomfortable (as has been documented by people on here who were there!) and the edited version shown did not do justice to the amount of times Dom grabbed her bum in the final dance and she was getting more and more upset and ended up in almost tears.

He is bitter, delusion and downright pervy!
Olls~
05-11-2007
I really liked Dom on the first couple of shows but since he has done nothing to endear himself - shame!
His rant on saturday and his pawing at Lilia on their last dance (which i guess was his attempt at humour) was awkward to watch. He really does have a high opinion of himself.
BuddyBontheNet
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by fbarrett:
“Whatever any one says about Dom I think the judging was odd. They are supposed to vote on the dance off otherwise what is the point in having one. yet the judges talk about how much better John Barnes was overall. That maybe the case but that is not the point in judging the dance off. Fair? Definitely biased in my view. John Barnes may or may not have danced better in the dance off, I cannot comment because I am not an expert but the judges didnt say that They didnt like Dom pure and simple.”

I think the judges only say that when there is not much difference in the dance off performances. If one couple danced much better than the other in the dance of the judges would send the other couple home.
looneetoon
05-11-2007
It looks like Dom is similar to those that try out at the start of X Factor who think they can sing (that's the only time I watch X Factor!!!), Dom thinks he can dance a lot better than he actually can.
He obviously annoyed Len with his continual moaning about the marks as Len made a comment on Saturday that Dom gave the impression he ought to get 9's and he was never going to get that.
I vaguely knew who he was before the series started, and had no problems with him before the last couple of weeks, but he just seems to be a bad loser, (I play sport for fun and come across plenty of bad losers) and has probably lost most of the goodwill he built up while he was in.
Let's face it, most of the "celebrity's" are C or D list and are trying to build up their status, Dom is D list at the highest and has been very lucky to have got to where he has, and just has a very inflated opinion of himself, instead of being grateful for achieving what he has.
Tinydancer
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by fbarrett:
“Whatever any one says about Dom I think the judging was odd. They are supposed to vote on the dance off otherwise what is the point in having one. yet the judges talk about how much better John Barnes was overall. That maybe the case but that is not the point in judging the dance off. Fair? Definitely biased in my view. John Barnes may or may not have danced better in the dance off, I cannot comment because I am not an expert but the judges didnt say that They didnt like Dom pure and simple.

Dom is apparently happy to laugh at himself but to his credit he did take the show seriously. For that he should be given credit.”

At the start of SCD as a personality Dom was very popular with the judges but he shot himself in the foot over the past week whinging at every available oppportunity at how hard done by he is in the competition.

The way I see it is that the dance off is the judges final opportunity to look at the dancers technique and the bottomline is that it was created to allow the judges to save a good dancer that's at risk of being voted out by the public.

For me - John can dance, Dom can't .. simple.
soshalite
05-11-2007
Did you notice Lilia's face though? I don't think she liked him very much.
KentishMaid
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by Olls~:
“His rant on saturday and his pawing at Lilia on their last dance (which i guess was his attempt at humour) was awkward to watch. He really does have a high opinion of himself.”

It's strange how men with bald heads or a beer belly, think they are sexy
kaycee
05-11-2007
[quote=fbarrett;19146273]Whatever any one says about Dom I think the judging was odd. They are supposed to vote on the dance off otherwise what is the point in having one. yet the judges talk about how much better John Barnes was overall. That maybe the case but that is not the point in judging the dance off. Fair? Definitely biased in my view. John Barnes may or may not have danced better in the dance off, I cannot comment because I am not an expert but the judges didnt say that They didnt like Dom pure and simple.

Dom is apparently happy to laugh at himself but to his credit he did take the show seriously. For that he should be given credit.[/QUOTE

The worst thing any dancer can do is dance out of time with the music. In every competition at every level it virtually guarantees you last place! John moved with the music, even out of hold he was in time. Dom seemed to think if he stomped around the floor hard enough that would be enough - staying in time to the music didn't seem to enter his agenda!!!!
elizabethjo
05-11-2007
Agree totally that Dom was seeing himself as a great dancer, ok he worked hard but he just didnt listen to the music at all.perhaps he thinks that the music is just for atmosphere or something. He was so mardy about his marks it was embarrassing and the way he pawed at Lilia in the final dance was just sick making, it was obvious that she was not happy with that and was glad that the other dancers rescued her when they all went onto the floor.
kaycee
05-11-2007
elizabethjo: 'Mardy'? Never heard that before, but what a great word!
violet_creme
05-11-2007
I'm confused by his claims of it being 'rigged' becuase the Judges see their dances before the night....of course they do! Craig is on looking at every dance on Wednesday's ITT, Arlene and Len on Friday's etc. They watch rehearsal, they give their opinions on what they think it's going to be like etc. and let's face it, dances never change/improve *that* much from the clips we're shown.

They see the dances all week, so presumably make up their mind in some way whether it's going to be 'good' or 'bad' and I've no doubt they think up comments too. What's to stop them?

Anyway, well a very sore loser and a shame. It seems the new trend for those voted off to go bitching in the press instead of bowing out gracefully. The only thing I can see his point on his the scoring - it does seem to not reflect Judges comments (as we saw in BrendanGate last year). They like Dom's routine, but give him the same marks every week. Same with Letita and Darren.
stevosowl
05-11-2007
He came across as sleazy and smug, and very bad loser. The pawing of Lilia was a complete disgrace and very unprofessional.

It seems his cheekiness is an act, i for one will not watch his shows anymore.
mindyann
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by kay_bee:
“They do get to see the training videos and comment on them on ITT. And they clearly have prepared comments (jokes). It's rare to see them genuinely change their mind. But I did detect that they were surprised by how well Kate did....or more to the point how well Anton had taught her!”

I've often thought that the judges mark on what the either want or expect to see rather than what they do see - and that probably accounts some for the under/overmarking complaints. Obviously, if someone does an unexpectely great routine, then the marks would have to alter, in the same way that if someone made a complete pigs ear of it then the marks would have to be dropped, but I do think that to some degree the scores are determined prior to the actual performance - as much as anything to slot the couples on the leader board in the places they want 'em.
Olls~
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by KentishMaid:
“It's strange how men with bald heads or a beer belly, think they are sexy”



Right said fred just popped in my head!
violet_creme
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by mindyann:
“I've often thought that the judges mark on what the either want or expect to see rather than what they do see - and that probably accounts some for the under/overmarking complaints. Obviously, if someone does an unexpectely great routine, then the marks would have to alter, in the same way that if someone made a complete pigs ear of it then the marks would have to be dropped, but I do think that to some degree the scores are determined prior to the actual performance - as much as anything to slot the couples on the leader board in the places they want 'em.”

And yet sometimes, they look genuinely shocked at another's scores. They certainly didn't see Bruno's '10' coming! I think they decide their own score in advance, but I don't think they can decide as a group of there wouldn't be such consternation with some of the scoring.
EmilyIRE
05-11-2007
Not sure how true that article is, but he definitely seemed to think his dancing was better than it was. I liked him at the start but went off him more and more over the weeks as his cheeky chappy persona faded and we saw the real side of him.
Italiangirl
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by violet_creme:
“I'm confused by his claims of it being 'rigged' becuase the Judges see their dances before the night....of course they do! Craig is on looking at every dance on Wednesday's ITT, Arlene and Len on Friday's etc. They watch rehearsal, they give their opinions on what they think it's going to be like etc. and let's face it, dances never change/improve *that* much from the clips we're shown.

They see the dances all week, so presumably make up their mind in some way whether it's going to be 'good' or 'bad' and I've no doubt they think up comments too. What's to stop them?

Anyway, well a very sore loser and a shame. It seems the new trend for those voted off to go bitching in the press instead of bowing out gracefully. The only thing I can see his point on his the scoring - it does seem to not reflect Judges comments (as we saw in BrendanGate last year). They like Dom's routine, but give him the same marks every week. Same with Letita and Darren.”

Yes, but the point is that he really didn't improve very much. Although he was obviously trying hard, he just couldn't "hear" the music, and so was never going to get that far. Lilia looked really fed up with him in their final dance.
Mrs Eyre
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“elizabethjo: 'Mardy'? Never heard that before, but what a great word!”

It's a great word; one theory is that it's derived from "merde", and in fact when I was growing up knew older people who used the term "mard-arse" which might back that up.

Bye-bye Dominic; good luck at the charm school.
Austen1984
05-11-2007
My fave comment on one of these threads was a response to someone writing that Dom made his living on his personality and some wit (in the best possible sense - I loved it!) wrote back 'Well at least he'll have social security to fall back on' - brilliant!
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