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Dom protests vote was rigged and unfair (Breakfast & Daily Mail)
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Castanet
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by leaky5:
“I agree, she must have a really sore patch on her arm. Where Dom kept stroking it with his thumb, whilst they were waiting for the judges.”

Originally Posted by fbarrett:
“Whatever any one says about Dom I think the judging was odd. They are supposed to vote on the dance off otherwise what is the point in having one. yet the judges talk about how much better John Barnes was overall. That maybe the case but that is not the point in judging the dance off. Fair? Definitely biased in my view. John Barnes may or may not have danced better in the dance off, I cannot comment because I am not an expert but the judges didnt say that They didnt like Dom pure and simple.

Dom is apparently happy to laugh at himself but to his credit he did take the show seriously. For that he should be given credit.”


Hear Hear - well said.
Austen1984
05-11-2007
I wonder if either will be on ITT???
MetalMonkey
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Sounds cruel but watching both performances we were in stitches laughing because he looked like a wooden toy soldier not a matador ”

To be even crueler; he always reminded me of "Bodybags"dancing at her anniversary party after the "bad girls" put some speed in her drink. It was one of the funniest things ever. They both spun around the place like those cheap little wind up toys you used to get for Christmas.

He suffers for the little man syndrome and need to get over himself.
dancingbearbear
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by Austen1984:
“I wonder if either will be on ITT???”


Should be "interesting". I think it'll be so cringe-inducing it'll be a "watch through your fingers" job!

I was pretty narked by the ungraciousness of his exit ~ when he thanked the backstage persons he totally ruined it by prefacing it with "I'm going to say this becuase I don't think anyone else has said it yet", which just smacked of mealy-mouthed self-importance. Ironic that he was presumably attempting to imply that he was the most gracious evictee to date, as he was polite enough to thank the crew, yet he can't see quite how petty and spiteful he appeared.

This year's Jan Ravens.
TWS
05-11-2007
i just thought he looked like Mr Potato head - I mean he was all head and no body, and no shoulders anywhere in sight
Agent Krycek
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Should be "interesting". I think it'll be so cringe-inducing it'll be a "watch through your fingers" job!

I was pretty narked by the ungraciousness of his exit ~ when he thanked the backstage persons he totally ruined it by prefacing it with "I'm going to say this becuase I don't think anyone else has said it yet", which just smacked of mealy-mouthed self-importance. Ironic that he was presumably attempting to imply that he was the most gracious evictee to date, as he was polite enough to thank the crew, yet he can't see quite how petty and spiteful he appeared.

This year's Jan Ravens. ”

Actually, thinking about it, did he even make a point of thanking Lilia personally until Bruce brought it up
-meisje-
05-11-2007
I actually remarked to OH when he was voted out that the judges seemed to some extent to be basing their voting on John & Dom's performances throughout the series so far rather than just the dance off. Having said that, it probably wasn't a bad thing as John Barnes clearly has more potential.
-meisje-
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Actually, thinking about it, did he even make a point of thanking Lilia personally until Bruce brought it up ”

No, I don't think he did. He wasn't very chivalrous all round, really, was he?
paradigm25
05-11-2007
IMO Dom had a vastly inflated idea of his own ability. He preferred to think the judges were involved in some sort of conspiracy theory in order to get him out, forgetting that the public have 50% of the vote, so they clearly didn't find him a good dancer or an endearing character. Lilia might have choreographed some touchy, feely stuff into an earlier routine, but he seemed to think this gave him carte blanche to paw her at every opportunity. And as for that last dance, he was lucky Lilia didn't give him a good slap. If there was any public sympathy left for him he has surely lost it with his ungracious comments in the Daily Mail and although I didn't see Breakfast it would appear he repeated them there, so he can hardly claim to have been misquoted.
tobykim
05-11-2007
Quote:
“I said he looked like a wooden soldier”

I was thinking exactly the same thing myself, he might have done all the steps but they were done kind of parrot fashion if you know what I mean, it would have looked exactly the same with or without music, he just looked as thought he was marching round the floor.
What a bad loser
pinkpoppy71
05-11-2007
I too noticed how uncomfortable Lilia looked, generally and with the thumb stroking. But only saw the last 5 mins, so was not sure why. You have kindly explained that it was because of unnecessary "pawing" throughout.

And Lilia's father is sick? Hopefully her exit is a blessing in disguise so that she can be with him.

Can anyone explain EXACTLY how the judges marks contribute to the final marks? (or link me to a thread on this).

Particularly how, if you have only 1 point (bottom of the leaderboard), you are not necessarily in the bottom 2? Thank you
bigbro24
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by minnie19:
“exactly what you said im so glad he's goon he gave me the creeps. i didnt like him before anyway, cant believe some of my licence fee helps to make the rubbish programmes hes on too. did anyone see him on the apprentice your fired at the start of the year? he was defending that oter clown katie, i just knew then that he was not a vary nice man. i fel so sorry for lilia having to put up with him all week!”

I do remember he defended the lying, cheating, obnoxious Thatcherite throwback. She was willing to do whatever it takes to get what she wants and maybe he is the same.

When you think about how he makes or made his living he had to negotiate and badger for what he wanted. During that final dance he repeatedly pestered Lilia thinking he could put his hands where he wanted, even after she objected and pulled away he pulled her back again. Dancing close together and touching whilst doing the choreography is one thing but you can see she is not happy with what he was doing last night. She was on the verge of tears and looked very stressed.
She should have dug her heels into his groin and see if he wanted to grab her again!

I did initially think Lilia was making a fool of him with all this bottom patting in the choreography but during training and on Saturday night it does look like he was always after her bum. Maybe it was his idea to put all that in, I don't know.
His behaviour this past week has done him no favours whatsoever. What a horrible man.
looneetoon
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by pinkpoppy71:
“I too noticed how uncomfortable Lilia looked, generally and with the thumb stroking. But only saw the last 5 mins, so was not sure why. You have kindly explained that it was because of unnecessary "pawing" throughout.

And Lilia's father is sick? Hopefully her exit is a blessing in disguise so that she can be with him.

Can anyone explain EXACTLY how the judges marks contribute to the final marks? (or link me to a thread on this).

Particularly how, if you have only 1 point (bottom of the leaderboard), you are not necessarily in the bottom 2? Thank you
”

The top couple in the judges estimation gets 10 points, the couple coming second 9 points etc down to the bottom couple with the judges marks who get 1 point.
Then whoever comes top with the public (ie most votes) gets 10 points down to 1 for the least popular and these are added to the judges points giving the overall total.
So for example bottom with the judges (1 point) and top with the public (10 points) would get them 11 points. 8th place with the judges (3 points) and 5th with the public (6 points) would only leave a total of 9 points. If a couple of people ended up with less than 11 points in this case, would mean the bottom couple with the judges don't end up in the bottom 2 overall. Hope i've made sense.
russellfan
05-11-2007
I've always thought it was blatantly rigged from the start. Those paid the most will be there till the end. I.E Letitia and Kelly and Penny.
paradigm25
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by russellfan:
“I've always thought it was blatantly rigged from the start. Those paid the most will be there till the end. I.E Letitia and Kelly and Penny.”

I reckon Alesha will spoil the party.
looneetoon
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by russellfan:
“I've always thought it was blatantly rigged from the start. Those paid the most will be there till the end. I.E Letitia and Kelly and Penny.”

I'd be very surprised if all those 3 made it to the final, but if they do you can come back and say I told you so.
I would guess Alesha would be as popular as anybody, both with judges and public, not to mention Matt and Gethin.
Also I thought they got paid the same, if there was a sliding scale I would have thought that would cause some friction.
Quizmike
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by russellfan:
“I've always thought it was blatantly rigged from the start. Those paid the most will be there till the end. I.E Letitia and Kelly and Penny.”

They are all paid the same this year.
mossy2103
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by russellfan:
“I've always thought it was blatantly rigged from the start. Those paid the most will be there till the end. I.E Letitia and Kelly and Penny.”

It was announced before SCD started this year that all celebs will recieve the same. So that shoots down your theory.
Austen1984
05-11-2007
Dominic had that 'the world is out to get me' attitude which is so ugly!
BuddyBontheNet
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by bigbro24:
“I do remember he defended the lying, cheating, obnoxious Thatcherite throwback. She was willing to do whatever it takes to get what she wants and maybe he is the same.
”

Don't you hold back now.
Sallyforth
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by LadySpeedStar:
“Whilst not defending Dom I think the judges have assisted this situation to happen.
At least two of them said when voting for John on Saturday that they wanted to see him do the salsa. What they should be doing is judging John and Dom on their performances in the dance off. At least that's what I thought they should do and it's also what a BBC spokesperson said in the Mirror article.

Now if I put my cynical head on, I'd say that Lilia wanted an out to allow her to visit her sick father (quite understandable) and voting Dom who wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway did just that. As Dom works for the BBC, he goes along with it has a rant and provided the programme with the publicity for this week.....OK I know but I did say I'd changed my head”



Now this is assessment is far more feasible IMO than some of the other stuff that's flying around.
sergeik
05-11-2007
ITT will certainly be interesting, hopefully we'll be able to tell more from that. Wonder if it'll be anything like the one did Claire and Brendan did, when it became clear they didn't like each other.
paradigm25
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by sergeik:
“ITT will certainly be interesting, hopefully we'll be able to tell more from that. Wonder if it'll be anything like the one did Claire and Brendan did, when it became clear they didn't like each other.”

I hope they sit on opposite ends of the sofa
4chords
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by looneetoon:
“The top couple in the judges estimation gets 10 points, the couple coming second 9 points etc down to the bottom couple with the judges marks who get 1 point.
Then whoever comes top with the public (ie most votes) gets 10 points down to 1 for the least popular and these are added to the judges points giving the overall total.
So for example bottom with the judges (1 point) and top with the public (10 points) would get them 11 points. 8th place with the judges (3 points) and 5th with the public (6 points) would only leave a total of 9 points. If a couple of people ended up with less than 11 points in this case, would mean the bottom couple with the judges don't end up in the bottom 2 overall. Hope i've made sense.”

I know this is off topic, but what happens if the points after the judges points and public vote points are level? For instance, if 3 couples were on the same number of points, who gets the nod to not be in the dance-off?

I really dislike the new dance-off. The way it's done is really unfair. The judges seem to vote on future or past performances, rather than the actual dance. Surely it would be better if they actually scored the dance like they do in the Saturday show. I think if Dominic has anything to moan about it's this, otherwise he's just a poor loser.
paradigm25
05-11-2007
Originally Posted by 4chords:
“I know this is off topic, but what happens if the points after the judges points and public vote points are level? For instance, if 3 couples were on the same number of points, who gets the nod to not be in the dance-off?

I really dislike the new dance-off. The way it's done is really unfair. The judges seem to vote on future or past performances, rather than the actual dance. Surely it would be better if they actually scored the dance like they do in the Saturday show. I think if Dominic has anything to moan about it's this, otherwise he's just a poor loser.”

In the past the public vote dictated the outcome - I assume it is the same this year.
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