Well obviously he's not nearly in the same league as Mr Waite and Mr Cutler, but I still like him.

Well, each to their own...and on that note goodnight McF.

Look forward to sharing a few drinks with you in Bar Cutler (even if you are still a minor ).

Watching her on tonights show yet again saying how she was shocked it went so badly and how shes desperate to stay will be painful.

I also think she thinks she's a better dancer then she is. Anton also at times stops sugar coating it for her and seems to get annoyed that she is so delusional. Remember when after she'd done her previous (disasterous) latin dance she went something like 'When did I go wrong' and he was like 'when you started'...and I saw a bit on GMTV where she was actually bigging her dancing up saying she is quite good!
OMG!

I agree totally - I think she is completely deluded.

I just find the whole thing embarrassing now - at first although I was annoyed by her, you could probably tolerate it a bit - but now, I just wish she'd shut up and go away.

I rarely say things like that - but she is the one person over the whole 5 series who has made me feel like that.

am fed up with her stupid lip biting sleeve-wrenching pretending to be little girliness........for God's sake she is a grown up.

And one who can't dance.

Compare her with Kenny - who, although he is not a dancer either, has tried so very hard to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear - and I thought he made a very credible attempt at the VW last night - he is improving, Kate is getting worse.

She is an embarrassment and should just simply GO.

please British public - have a heart and save us all from this lurid spectacle once again.

I think thats the point I feel the strongly too - the one about Kenny - I'm not particularly a Kenny fan, but he is SO much better then Kate. In his Paso Doble, okay dancing wasn't great but did he do it with a big coy grin on his face? Did he laugh all the way, embarrassedly, through it?

No he committed.

He lead the waltz this week - Kate can't do stuff when Anton is leading and she looks constantly like she doesn't know what she's doing.

I know she can't dance but she's not even trying.

Her foxtrot last week was much better, granted, but she was still (as I think Craig said) shuffling...but I thought if she continues to get better she could justify her position.

The problem is, when she's good she's still below average, but when she's bad she's a complete and utter embarrassment.

I hate to compare anyone to Christopher Parker...but if you watch his dances, okay he was rubbish, but he was doing steps by himself. He actually moved. He lead dances...and his paso doble was funny because it was SO simple - but he did commit to it and didn't fall over when Hanna was on his back. Kate can't stand up by herself.

Nobody is as bad as her - and I fear a much better dancer will go because she continues to beg for votes on the night and on GMTV! Hopefully there will be a backlash!

yep totally agree and have just posted similar elsewhere. I don't mind people being terrible if they at least try!!! Matt started out pretty bad last year but he worked so hard to get better and it paid off. Altight Kenny is no Matt but you can see he is so frustrated he can't dance better - you can see how much he wants too whereas Kate is just "gosh I'm crap aren't I" so she doens't even bother trying.

am with you absolutely 100% on this - and I think you completely hit the nail on the head with the commitment comment.

We're not being mean to Kate - we're all nice people on here and no-one is nasty - I get truly peed off when people say oh you're being horrible to Kate!

we're NOT. is just that, when you spend the sheer amount of time training that they do, you would expect that, even if they can't dance from a rhythm point of view, they would at least have the courtesy to learn the steps!

I find her lack of commitment UNBELIEVABLE. I find her lazy and self-delusional and if she actually bothered for one moment to listen to Anton and stop biting her lip, then she might learn how the dance SHOULD be done and then TRY, just like Kenny has done.

they all can't be good dancers - we know that - but all we are asking is that they all fairly try - and listen to the pros.

This is why I can't tolerate her, and why I just want to be rid of her.

Yeah - EXACTLY!

And I've said before on here, I understand she finds it difficult to be sexy - but an innane grin isn't even trying.

She doesn't have to go beserk with sexy faces if she's uncomfortable - she could just hold a more serious face - grinning all the way through her sexy dances is painful!

I like her, she is desperately trying and obviously is not a natural dancer. I cannot image how awful it must be to be a journalist and trying to look sexy doing a latin dance to be told you were just awful. She does not have any acting or dance trying unlike most of the other contestants and I just love her and Anton together. LOL it was really funny last night during their chat with Tess. She is getting loads of votes, making loads of money for Children in Need and that is really what it is all about. Personally I get bored by people like Kelly who obviously have had extensive dance training and I think it is unfair to say she is being taught how to dance by Brendan on Strictly°°!!!!!!!°°°° I think it is unfair to mix COMPLETE beginners with trained dancers!! Kelly looks like a professional because SHE IS!!

Obviously to compare Kate to Kelly would be unfair.

I'm not suggesting we should do that - but there are complete beginners left in the competition - John, Kenny and Gethin.

Kenny has been told in no uncertain terms that he is rubbish - in fact I think the words 'Hideous' were used.

That hasn't prevented him from continuing to commit to his performances.

please show me where she is trying??cos I honestly genuinely can't see it

frankly if they are relying on their comedy routines with tess, the judges and ITT to get them though then they may as well cut out the boring dance middle man and do the birdy song for 90 seconds before breaking into a comdey sketch.

and to reiterate - I don't have a problem with her not being any good, Kenny isn't any good either, I have a problem with her not trying

hi all - no doubt this has been posted already, but the unashamed begging for votes is a bit annoying - I wonder does it bother her at all that this begging has cost gabby a place - i wasn't a fan of gabby's personality but she was technically excellent, and would have produced excellent routines with james - with kate, it's like the clown in a circus, you know that it won't be good, but at least it will be entertaining......when Fiona was there, we felt a bit of pity for her, because she couldn't dance - she knew and we knew and she had brendan as a partner, if kate had brendan as a partner would people continue to vote for her? anyway, that's my 2 cents! I do enjoy anton though!

I completely agree with you! How do all these people know that Kate isn't working hard and trying - she certainly seems to be putting in as much practice as anybody - and remember we only see what they want us to. Kate stands there and takes all the nasty comments with a smile and is enjoying the dancing despite what people think. Please give her a break - if I were her I'd want to stay in as well.

I was horrified when she likened her begging for votes to the deaths of millions of men in war.

So basically what you are saying is if it doesn't come naturally you should just give up and never dance again.

I'm sure many dance teachers and schools will love that..not.

Not everyone can take to it like a duck to water and that is something that the programme needs to show.

I don't think anyone can make a claim that's she is not committed to it after the hours she puts in training.

yes absolutely - this is the WHOLE point we are trying to make.

Dome said:

"So basically what you are saying is if it doesn't come naturally you should just give up and never dance again.

I'm sure many dance teachers and schools will love that..not.

Not everyone can take to it like a duck to water and that is something that the programme needs to show.

I don't think anyone can make a claim that's she is not committed to it after the hours she puts in training. "

No-one is saying you should never dance again if you are not naturally good!

what we ARE saying is that one other dancer - Kenny - was as poor if not worse than Kate at the beginning but through sheer determination and listening he has made a decent attempt at the dances.

Kate, as Austen1984 said, can't seem to remember the steps! and with all that training, you should at least do that!

I can sympathise how hard it is - I am a case in point! I go to a Latin and Ballroom class once a week - and a few weeks ago we were adding to our basic chachacha with a fan spin and a hockey stick spin - I was the only one in the class who couldn't do it! I couldn't retain it in my head! but I went home and practised and practised - and now I can do it like the others can - and I only have one hour a week!

so with 5 a day, I'd be remembering it VERY well!

just because you do a lot of practise hours doesn't mean you are trying!

I just want to see some improvement from her and less "spin".

no that isn't what we're saying - you're completely missing the point

Kenny hasn't taken to it like a duck to water, more like an elephant trying to rollerskate - but he tries, and he's committed both in the training room and on the dance floor

The impression Kate gives me is that she's one of those people who, if she can't do something, just sits there going 'I can't do it!' and therefore gets a total mental block which she won't get beyond. Sometimes her training does obviously lack commitment and drive which you can see in Anton's reaction. He wouldn't be anywhere near so frustrated if she was putting her all in.

oh bless - that has just really made me laugh! lovely!

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I can see commitment that you obviously don't.

Her main problem is imo lack of confidence and that can give encouragement to others to go out and try.

Kittles and Tango queen I absolutely agree!!!

I think it would be harder for Kenny to come back from 'Hideous' in his samba to do the paso - but he did.

And he went for the samba - his hip movements were hideous - BUT he committed to them and because he commits he gets better.

Of course Kate shouldn' give up dancing - if she enjoys it go to classes - but if she wants to stay in a competition then she needs to commit to the emotion of the dance even if she struggles with the steps.

She's too old to do the little girl act. She's beautiful and has a great figure and if she committed she could look so much better.

Remember Patsy Palmer in the Tango or the Rumba. She wasn't the best dancer but she tried and I loved her for that - and because she committed she got better!

I think Kate should have gone long ago, but tbf I think she tries and the giggles are to cover her embarrassment - surely we've all done it; made a bit of a fool of ourselves and then laughed even though we're cringing inside.

Yeah - I agree, of course some of it is embarrassment - but I would forgive if it was just after the dance, not during it. She doesn't commit to the dancing part - and that's the problem.

I agree and it's the Latin dances that she seems to have more of a problem with.

If she stays its just going to be even more embarrassing next week - because shes going to have to do another Latin dance!