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Of course all round package is important but that can differ from artist to artist. For Paul the 'pull' is his background/story simple as & the audience just want to get behind this 'normal bloke' & will him on. More likely to be in tears as he 'attempts' to hit the money note rather than shouting out about babies. I don't get it personally but he has somehow got many people engaged/bought in. Simon has worked this to the max & sold over a million albums. All the sob story stuff on X-Factor irritates many of us but it is there for a reason. People love a trier/under-dog.
Personally I only want to listen to albums of people who can actually sing!! There are people who are magnificent on stage like John Barrowman but I must admit to hearing his CD & being very disappointed. Take away his stage presence & charisma & is voice is actually not that special. On the other hand you have Andrea Bocelli who due to his blindness is only able to stand totally still at the microphone but what a voice. He's sold million & millions of records worldwide. I suppose the reasons for success are so varied - sob-story / stage performance / voice. It would be a boring world if we liked the same things. ![]() http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/di...=sidebarsearch |
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I knew these Paul Potts-Rhydian Roberts comparisons would start up sooner or later. IMO, RR has a coldish, odd tone to my ears, but his personal dramatisation could be well-suited to musical theatre. I always looked forward to his performance each week, so he has that in his favour. I would doubt that RR would get any better reviews from Sweeting and his like. These writers like to discover their own singing gems in the back streets of Napoli, or even Pittsburgh or Glasgow will suffice, just as long as they are not pimped by what they regard as a lowly, vulgar pop impresario like Simon Cowell. Anyway, it is not unknown for journalists like him to review part or all of a concert without even being there.
Many in the UK will never forgive Cowell for foisting a series of dreadful boy-bands and worse acts onto the UK charts in the '90s Until RR gets the sales and the #1s of PP in the UK and overseas, then I think present comparisons have a hollow ring, but I wish him well in his future. ![]() BTW note how many of Cowell's current big acts have names with the same letters - PP, RR and LL. Must be a requirement of the job. |
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Thanks red1234 and MaxyParkGuy!
Adam Sweeting is nothing more than a superficial fraud. Maybe it's acceptable where he is to write a review and comment on things he wasn't in attendance for, but not here in the States. He comments on Paul's "Nessun Dorma" and "Music of the Night" (which A.S. finds "deplorable"), both of which he wasn't there to hear. He left after the first half of the concert! This was a BAD review and by bad, I mean badly conceived and badly executed. Why doesn't he stick to rock? Not that THOSE reviews are any better. Below are some GOOD reviews for Paul. Beyond that, I think the comparison between RR and PP is misleading, unfair and just an exercise in futility at this point. It is, without question, comparing apples to oranges and it serves no purpose. If you "prefer" Rhydian over Paul or vise versa (as the title of this thread topic implies), that's perfectly understandable. I happen to think that BOTH are very talented, but are in different leagues. Rhydian is a high baritone and Paul is a tenor. That alone is enough to separate them into their own "career threads". But let's look at the current status of both. RR: 24 years old PP: 37 years old (Paul has 13 years more of "life experience" - yes that counts for something!) RR: Didn't win X Factor PP: Won Britain's Got Talent RR: No debut album out yet PP: Debut album went #1 in 13 countries (still #1 in several) and has sold well over 2 million copies. RR: No concert tour scheduled or planned PP: 75 concerts in 65 cities across the globe covering close to six months of touring. 19 concerts in the first leg are completely sold out. Paul's "story" is important, but a vast number of people don't know his story and many in the United States (a HUGE fan base) didn't find out about him until his appearance on the Today Show, Ellen or Oprah. He's way beyond his story at this point. Rhydian won't be taking Paul's route, which is another difference. Not a NEGATIVE, just a difference. There are plenty of people here and on other forums that are fans of BOTH! They are dissimilar in their styles and their ultimate genre of music, but they are VERY similar in other ways. They are both very talented, have a deep passion for what they do, have fans all over the world, were given a major televised medium to show their "stuff" to millions of people and have the backing and blessings of Simon Cowell and company (like it or not!). Here are a few POSITIVE reviews that put Paul in the light he deserves. REVIEW: PAUL POTTS, ROYAL CONCERT HALL http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/di...pNodeId=244911 Nottingham http://www.classicalx.com/ftopicp-14655.html Paul Potts OFFICIAL FORUM http://forum.paulpottsuk.com/viewfor...9562e7f862e321 |
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I like them both. They are entirely different singers, so it's hard to compare them.
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A very well written review for Paul Potts at the Edinburgh Playhouse by Sandy Scott from the Edinburgh Evening News. Four stars out of five!
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/...-is.3716671.jp |
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Who do you prefer: Rhydian Roberts or Paul Potts?
Two people who specialise in the same genre (opera), but have different personalities. Rhydian is confident whereas Paul was shy. You could argue Rhydian is more entertaining, but Paul is more emotional when singing. Paul's career has started off successfully, with number 1s in 12 different countries (UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, S. Korea, Taiwan, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Colombia etc). His audition video has been viewed over 30 million times on youtube and is now the 35th highest viewed video of all time. Can Rhydian match or exceed Paul's success? I don't like eithers voices and this type of performer bores me rigid so i'd avoid them if they were on tv , radio etc . Lookswise Potts reminds me of Norman Pace and not ginger Rhyd looks like the alien bloke in ancient sci fi film This Island Earth. Nothing to do with their acts though, I think both will have relatively profitable careers in the short term but i expect to see less of them after a few years. |
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From: The Edinburgh Playhouse Reviews
Paul Potts I watched his first ever television appearance on 'Britain's Got Talent' with as much scepticism as everyone else (including the judges), until that is, he opened his mouth and I was lifted gently into the air and taken on a journey that left me both breathless and awestruck. I duly bought his album and have enjoyed it immensely. Last night however, I witnessed his (almost) full potential. This shy, unassuming superstar wooed his audience not only with his voice, but also his personality. He interspersed the magnificence of the music with amusing anecdotes of the 'real' Paul Potts. There are no airs and graces with this man, no pomposity to his music, just one enormous heart that filled the stage, spilling over onto the ever more adoring audience. The two (yes two) standing ovations he received were truly deserved. Yet strangely, he left the stage for the last time with such a strange look on his face; stunned, struggling to hold back his tears. I could see, for the first time that evening, his utter disbelief that all this is happening to him, Paul Potts, formerly of Carphone Warehouse and many other jobs - some which a person lesser than he may see as menial. The paths we choose are our own, his goal was simply to sing. Thank you Paul for the rough paths you strode in order hone your skill. I cannot end this review however, without mentioning the magnificent Natasha Marsh, whose voice, choice of, and arrangement of her 4 pieces (both classical and modern) simply as stunning as her personality, beauty and dress sense. This is one lady whom I shall be following the career of with the greatest of interest. Reviewed 28 Jan 2008 |
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It is difficult to compare them. Rhydian has been purposely singing in a less classical/operatic style during the X factor to be more suited to the pop style of the program. We'll have to wait for his album, and it may be completely different from what PP has released so far.
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TV show uncovered a real star
Jan 30 2008 by Gordon Barr, Evening Chronicle PAUL POTTS/ NATASHA MARSH, NEWCASTLE CITY HALL BRITAIN’S Got Talent winner Paul Potts arrived at Newcastle City Hall last night mid-way through his UK tour. After the massively popular reality TV show it wasn’t surprising that his tour would sell-out fast, and never a city to disappoint, Newcastle’s operatic lovers packed the venue to its brim. The show took on an unusual format with the support act, Natasha Marsh, performing at random intervals throughout Paul’s set. The man himself kicked off the evening with a rose in hand and his now famous voice filling the room. Early on, he surprised the audience by taking on the REM ballad Everybody Hurts, giving it a new lease of life. Paul obviously wanted to show his range as a singer and mixed classic religious hymns like Ave Maria with songs from West Side Story. Natasha Marsh also mixed opera-inspired songs with a range of pop and film-based tracks. One pop classic which she chose to cover was Who Wants To Live Forever by Queen. She looked absolutely stunning and carried her voice beautifully. After a short interval, Paul Potts didn’t waste any time in rallying the audience again by treating them to a four-song medley and they rose to the occasion by clapping along with him. Never one to shy away from sentiment, Mr Potts couldn’t help but talk about his wife throughout the evening and even dedicated the touching Cavatina to her. After Natasha and Paul’s duet from Act One of La Traviata, Natasha dedicated her final song, You’ll Never Walk Alone, to Paul even though it did feel slightly cheesy. Paul finished with Time To Say Goodbye, which was by far his best song of the evening and it received a standing ovation. He came back though for an encore of Nessun Dorma. The audience seemed to love Paul’s story of belated success and they took him to their hearts because they witnessed the making of him as performer. Paul Potts is not only a talented singer, but also a very sincere and humble man. |
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What a shame this a long thread as i can't be bothered to read 400 posts.
I don't like eithers voices and this type of performer bores me rigid so i'd avoid them if they were on tv , radio etc . Lookswise Potts reminds me of Norman Pace and not ginger Rhyd looks like the alien bloke in ancient sci fi film This Island Earth. Nothing to do with their acts though, I think both will have relatively profitable careers in the short term but i expect to see less of them after a few years. How curious that you'd avoid them on tv, radio etc but not on an internet bulletin board.
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Yes, rather curious about that myself!
Well, while mb@2day is bored silly, the rest of you that are fans can read this fabulous review! http://www.thestar.co.uk/reviews/Pau...all.3734642.jp |
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Here's another great Paul Potts review submitted for your approval:
http://www.theargus.co.uk/whatson/mu...hton_feb_5.php |
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And another excellent review from his performance at Symphony Hall:
http://www.birminghammail.net/what-i...7319-20470093/ |
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And yet again, another great review by a very well respected critic.
Bristol Evening Post review 13 Feb 2008 By Gerry Parker PAUL'S WARM VOICE ----------------- You can truly describe Paul Potts as a local lad. He was in the chorus and an understudy with the Bristol Catholic Players, sang with Bath Opera and worked with Waitrose and Tesco before winning Britain's Got Talent. The self deprecating way he introduced numbers and the way he talked about real events in an everyday way: for example he told how his dog got out of his house and he ended up running down the middle of Fishponds Road after it. That and his straightforward vocal style had a fresh, honest feel about them. None of these assets alone would be good enough to hold a capacity Hippodrome audience if the voice that went with them had not been something a bit special. Technically you could find things to criticise about the voice, but it's warm natural sound made it a pleasure to listen to his interpretation of so many popular songs. Like Natasha Marsh, who provided fine support, Paul was at home singing popular melodies, show songs, or operatic arias - their duet from La Traviata was one of the highlights of the evening. **** 4 out of 5 |
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It has to be Rhydian
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And the positive Paul Potts reviews just keep coming!
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...=sidebarsearch |
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i would have paul potts do me from behind and rydian from the front
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Paul Potts. Hes the best singing Phone salesman of all time!
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Paul Potts has a much better operatic voice, but Rhydian is able to put on more of a show. If I was into opera, id rather listen to Paul Potts
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Paul Potts still needs a lot of vocal training in my opinion.............his phrasing is all over the place and his tone can be harsh. And he has little charisma on stage. Rhydian is a showman with oodles of charisma and stage presence and a damn good baritone voice too
I would die of boredom at a Potts concert but Rhydian would put on a hell of a show
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It's like asking whether you prefer vomit or feaces.
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It's like asking whether you prefer vomit or feaces.
Sorry. ![]() ![]() Couldn't have put it any better myself.
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While others may be bored out of their skull, many, many others are enjoying themselves seeing Paul Potts in concert!
http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/content...A04%3A26%3A870 |
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And here's someone else that enjoyed a Paul Potts concert!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/suffolk/content..._feature.shtml |
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And yet another one that enjoyed being in the audience at a Paul Potts concert!
http://www.dailyinfo.co.uk/reviews/f.../Paul%2BPotts/ |
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