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BuddyBontheNet
15-05-2009
Originally Posted by Puffle:
“Sorry Kaycee but in the first SCD book bought out they had the voting figures for Darren Gough/Colin Jackson during the final. Darren was ahead of Colin all the way through the final by a large margin, so the show dances made no difference to the eventual winner.
I'm also willing to bet that Tom and Camilla were ahead of Rachel and Vincent also by a pretty good margin throughout the final, as was shown by the voting by the public in the Semi-final where Tom came out top despite the judges putting him in last place.”

I agree with Puffle on this and I do wish the BBC would publish the voting information.
Force Ten
19-05-2009
Intro and Judges advice

Group Paso Doble

Shawn & Mark Freestyle

Melissa & Tony Freestyle

Gilles & Cheryl Freestyle

Thanks to DWTSSeason8
andallthatjazz
19-05-2009
I was excited to see what G&C will do but have to say that Freestyle was a bit of a let down to me & agree with Carrie Ann's comments.

Are there anymore links coming?
Force Ten
19-05-2009
No that's it - that was the entire final (apart from tomorrow night's show, that is!). They do another dance each tomorrow night and all the other competitors come back and do a dance as well.

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What the h*ll was that dreadful music they found for the group Paso Doble? Thought Gilles & Cheryl were far and away the best in the Paso, Melissa wasn't very good, Shawn was okay. Why do Carrie Ann and Bruno insist on giving perfect scores when someone makes a mistake? Melissa lost her footing at one point.

Freestyle - LOVED Shawn & Mark, Melissa & Tony's didn't inspire me - it looked better in rehearsal, Gilles & Cheryl's was all about Cheryl as usual. I agree with Bruno and Carrie Ann that Flashdance is all about the female dancer.

I really wish one of the couples in the final would actually do a ballroom dance with lots of intricate lifts rather than a hip hop type routine. It would have suited Melissa and Tony so much better - he just isn't comfortable doing a hip hop routine, and Gilles didn't look all that comfortable with his routine either.

I think it's between Shawn and Gilles in the end. America v France! Who will get the most votes? I rather think Shawn will do it, which is a bit of a shame as Gilles is the better dancer. Shawn is very athletic but doesn't quite have the depth of emotion to portray some of the dances properly - maybe because she's so young, I don't know.


I've put my comments in spoilers in case anyone wants to wait until Friday to watch it.
Puffle
19-05-2009
Thanks force10 and DWTSSeason8. Sadly I was very underwhelmed by the freestyles this year! Agree with most of your comments Force10 - mine are below.

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I agree totally about Tony and Melissa, they could have come out and done a spectacular American Smooth type freestyle that would have blown us away - instead Tony looked cumbersome and uncomfortable doing the hip hop routine, it was disjointed and really just tricks without much dancing.

Have to say I didn't really enjoy Shawns either but I don't think watching it on You Tube you get the best view of it, can't wait to see it on TV on Friday night

Cheryl and Gilles - well I love that song BUT agree it was all about Cheryl - I was rather hoping to see Gilles remove his t-shirt at one point if only to liven his part up (shallow, that's me!) - not much dancing in that one either
kaycee
19-05-2009
Originally Posted by Puffle:
“Sorry Kaycee but in the first SCD book bought out they had the voting figures for Darren Gough/Colin Jackson during the final. Darren was ahead of Colin all the way through the final by a large margin, so the show dances made no difference to the eventual winner.
I'm also willing to bet that Tom and Camilla were ahead of Rachel and Vincent also by a pretty good margin throughout the final, as was shown by the voting by the public in the Semi-final where Tom came out top despite the judges putting him in last place.”

But don't they say the marks/votes for the first dances in the final (up to when the 3rd placed contestant is eliminated) are then dropped, and they start with a clean slate for the showdance?? I might be wrong.

(Can't for the life of me see why so many thought Darren G was so good. His ballroom was ok, but his latin was dreadful - no rhythm at all!)
kaycee
19-05-2009
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
“No that's it - that was the entire final (apart from tomorrow night's show, that is!). They do another dance each tomorrow night and all the other competitors come back and do a dance as well.

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What the h*ll was that dreadful music they found for the group Paso Doble? Thought Gilles & Cheryl were far and away the best in the Paso, Melissa wasn't very good, Shawn was okay. Why do Carrie Ann and Bruno insist on giving perfect scores when someone makes a mistake? Melissa lost her footing at one point.

Freestyle - LOVED Shawn & Mark, Melissa & Tony's didn't inspire me - it looked better in rehearsal, Gilles & Cheryl's was all about Cheryl as usual. I agree with Bruno and Carrie Ann that Flashdance is all about the female dancer.

I really wish one of the couples in the final would actually do a ballroom dance with lots of intricate lifts rather than a hip hop type routine. It would have suited Melissa and Tony so much better - he just isn't comfortable doing a hip hop routine, and Gilles didn't look all that comfortable with his routine either.

I think it's between Shawn and Gilles in the end. America v France! Who will get the most votes? I rather think Shawn will do it, which is a bit of a shame as Gilles is the better dancer. Shawn is very athletic but doesn't quite have the depth of emotion to portray some of the dances properly - maybe because she's so young, I don't know.


I've put my comments in spoilers in case anyone wants to wait until Friday to watch it.”

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I really hope you are wrong about Shawn winning. Her dancing is ok, but it is so emotionless and bland. At her age she should be able to throw herself into it with a vengence, without feeling conspicuous and awkward like some of the older contestants have to contend with.
Force Ten
19-05-2009
Being a committed Ty fan, I bet he's breathing a big sigh of relief that he got knocked out in the semi-final. He would have been fairly okay in the Paso Doble as he was quite good in that before, but I'm not sure about the freestyle - I suppose it would have depended on how Chelsie choreographed it. Could have been interesting though!

I await the Results show tonight with great anticipation. It will be interesting to see all the participants again too and see just how bad some of them were and how far the finalists have progressed. Ty and Chelsie are doing their Lindy Hop tonight which is probably the best dance they did in the series (apart from that Tango of course - who could forget the group Tango and Bruno sniffing Ty's shirt lol.)
Puffle
19-05-2009
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“But don't they say the marks/votes for the first dances in the final (up to when the 3rd placed contestant is eliminated) are then dropped, and they start with a clean slate for the showdance?? I might be wrong.

(Can't for the life of me see why so many thought Darren G was so good. His ballroom was ok, but his latin was dreadful - no rhythm at all!)”

They don't tell us at all on the programme with the exception of this years semi final when they had to come clean at the start of the final to show that Tom had won the public vote because of all the furore about it.

No they didn't do it like that in the days of Darren G and Colin J.
Puffle
19-05-2009
Originally Posted by kaycee:
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I really hope you are wrong about Shawn winning. Her dancing is ok, but it is so emotionless and bland. At her age she should be able to throw herself into it with a vengence, without feeling conspicuous and awkward like some of the older contestants have to contend with.
”

I too have used spoilers as I don't want to give anything away - all this subterfuge! lol

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hmmm I don't know - 17 is kind of an awkward age for a girl and she's obviously shy and embarrassed to be so up close and personal with Mark (tut - some girls don't know they're born) which she may not have been had she been a 5 or 10 years older, she'd possibly be more comfortable in her own skin if she were older. I think she's possibly a little bit immature because her whole life has been gymnastics and I doubt she's had the normal teenage trials and tribulations of a 17yr old girl.

However, having said all that I do absolutely agree with you about her dancing, it shows no emotion or spirit and I LOATHE the way she seems to speak without moving her mouth (but again that could be a sign of awkwardness and embarrassment)
kaycee
19-05-2009
Her dancing is "nice" ..... but dancers among us will understand that dancing - especially Latin - shouldn't be 'nice'!
Katinka_k8
19-05-2009
Just thought I would add my opinions of the freestyle. Will try and manage spoiler tags, but having never done it before, they're bound to go wrong!

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I was really shocked with the freestyles. Although I've liked Shawn since the beginning, I genuinely thought her freestyle was brilliant. She was energetic and the routine actually seemed to involve a lot of dancing rather than just lifts (Brendan and Lisa I'm looking at you!). Also, she seemed to be enjoying herself! Overall I was really impressed with her.

I've never been the biggest Melissa fan and the freestyle did little to change my mind. I don't think it helped that after Shawn's routine it seemed a little pedestrian and slow in parts.

I was really disappointed in Gilles and Cheryl's freestyle. Gilles is a great dancer and I've been championing him from the first time I saw him, but I really think that Cheryl missed a trick with the choreography. She really didn't show off Gilles to his maximum potential.

I was so confident that Gilles would win before this week. Now I think that Shawn might beat him and I can't say that I would be disappointed if she did!

I've also got to say that I agree with Force Ten, it would be so lovely to see a freestyle ballroom dance. I think that Melissa could have done a really great job with that.
Fudd
19-05-2009
Oh!

At first I was desperate to stay off here completely until Friday...then I decided I'd check to see how each of them got on...now I think I'm going to view the Freestyles to see how each of them did.

EDIT: No, I've resisted.

I'm so determined to stay off here tomorrow, but I'll probably fail.

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I think I'm the only Shawn lover on here. I think she does have enthusiasm and go. I think it was a bit supressed early on, but is really coming out now, especially on her Argentine Tango last week which was terrific. I'd love her to win, but it's in the hands of the American public now...
Force Ten
20-05-2009
Apparently the show is two hours long and no-one has managed to post everything yet. DWTSSeason8 has said she will post the whole show but probably not all of it today. However, for those who can't wait, she has posted the last seven minutes showing the results.
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There was less than 1% separating the first two - it was the closest finish of any series.

And the winner is...

Please don't mention who has won or at least put it in spoilers for those who would rather wait until Friday night.

Enjoy!
Force Ten
20-05-2009
Have now found someone (screwabc2009!) who has posted the whole show. Unfortunately everyone looks slightly fatter than they really are as his screen ratio is wrong, but at least he has posted everything! It looks slightly better if you watch in HQ and full screen.

Part 1 - Lady GaGa

Part 2 - 1st three couples dance

Part 3 - next three couples dance

Part 4 - New Pro Winner

Part 5 - two more couples dance

Part 6 - Jeffrey Ross plus Lil' Kim & Derek

Part 7 - Ty & Chelsie - Lindy Hop

Part 8 - Shawn & Mark - Cha Cha Cha

Part 9 - Melissa & Tony - Samba

Part 10 - Gilles & Cheryl - Argentine Tango

Part 11 - Lady Ga Ga

Part 12- The Results!

Thanks for watching!
Puffle
20-05-2009
Hmmmm my thoughts in spoilers below

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Gutted for Gilles as he was clearly the best dancer in the show - however I do wonder whether Cheryl's having already won it twice went against them in the final vote??? Kind of like why should she get all the best dancers? Personally I'd have liked to have seen Gilles dancing with someone like Karina but that's history now. So, what do I think of Shawn winning? Well the American public like the Olympians don't they - that's 3 that have won. Her technique was excellent right through out BUT I just found her emotionless and her dancing without spirit and soul most of the time


As for the new pro well....

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Anna was a shoe-in from the start in my book - Julianne had already announced she was leaving so they needed another blonde, young female - the judges fell over themselves to praise her (and rightly so, she is excellent) BUT she is very tall so I wonder if that'll cause them problems in the future - we'll see


Ah well, another season over - soon be time for the real thing SCD!!!
andallthatjazz
20-05-2009
I've not opened any of the spoilers re results because this time I intend to watch the whole thing on Fri.

However based on some of the comments above it looks like my favourite didn't win!!!
Puffle
20-05-2009
Originally Posted by andallthatjazz:
“I've not opened any of the spoilers re results because this time I intend to watch the whole thing on Fri.

However based on some of the comments above it looks like my favourite didn't win!!!”

How on earth can you determine your favourite didn't win from the comments above?

As far as I can see no names have been mentioned and all comments about the freestyle that would indicate who did it well and who didn't have been put in spoilers.

Not having a go - I'm genuinely interested.
andallthatjazz
20-05-2009
Originally Posted by Puffle:
“How on earth can you determine your favourite didn't win from the comments above?

As far as I can see no names have been mentioned and all comments about the freestyle that would indicate who did it well and who didn't have been put in spoilers.

Not having a go - I'm genuinely interested.”

I just feel it.

No sense of excitement on comments made.

I'm still staying away from all other US entertainment links even though I feel it's a disappointing result...for me anyway!
kaycee
20-05-2009
Originally Posted by andallthatjazz:
“I just feel it.

No sense of excitement on comments made.

I'm still staying away from all other US entertainment links even though I feel it's a disappointing result...for me anyway!”

I've avoided the links as well because I like to see the show on Friday nights without knowing who was eliminated or, in this case, won.

But you know, like you I have a feeling it is going to be a disappointing result - again - as with you, for me anyway.
echelonx
20-05-2009
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Really happy with the result!
I'm so glad Gilles didn't win..sorry but I can't stand that smug grin..
Stella Street
09-08-2009
Derek and Shannon have split

Twitter
http://twitter.com/OfficialDHough/status/3187189158
Lili27
09-08-2009
Not surprised to hear that. They were a good looking couple.

I have seen TMZ videos of Derek hanging out with Gerard Butler in LA so not a problem for Derek being single again.
BuddyBontheNet
10-08-2009
Check this out

I don't know what to say.
Lili27
10-08-2009
I think the ABC and TWoP boards will explode. I don't understand this at all. What does she really know about dance?

One thing I liked about Len on DWTS is that he reined the pros in when they leave basic ballroom out and go for the flash. Without someone with strong ballroom experience insisting on standard choreography how can they be objectively judged? Carrie Ann and Bruno seem to leave that behind.

Nothing against Paula personally but she has trouble constructing sentences when she is judging on Idol and seems high as a kite half the time. Idol is a completely different show and I don't think the viewing demographic really crosses over that much. I truly don't get it.
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