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come on people vote out kate!
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peely
15-11-2007
Originally Posted by indigomoon:
“OOOooooooooh Yes, I'm voting her out on her assigned number as hard as I can. I must have spent nearly a hundred quid by now. Join me in the crusade and vote kates number as hard as you can to.”


Hmmmm the religious crusades were also misguided, but its your money.
peely
15-11-2007
Originally Posted by fraggle_bean:
“Alas, this show is entirely geared to saving people rather than booting them out. You could always beg for everyone to vote for the better dancers, but then this brings up what I think has caused the problem with voting this year. There are too many good dancers. This series had more pre-trained dancers than ever, lots of whom became very good very quickly as soon as they got past their nerves and first week stumbles. If you have one vote to cast, and you're a viewer who votes purely for dancing, that's a lot of people to choose from. If you vote purely on entertainment, there are fewer contestants to choose between. If, probably like most viewers, you vote as a mix of dance and entertainment and personality, then your vote is likely to go to the best dancers with the most appealing personalities. In all of these categories people like Gabby and Penny suffer. They're not quite the best dancers (although very good indeed) so maybe miss out on a lot of the votes cast by those who vote purely on dancing, they're not hugely entertaining from a personality point of view and so miss out there too - and amongst all the better dancers, they're personalities are not hugely appealing. Gabby in particular was very difficult to warm to and I completely was not surprised when she ended up in the bottom two. Penny again, whilst very sweet isn't very interesting.

If they had a lesser number of pretrained contestants, the 'entertainment' vote would be more heavily split - and I think you'd find on the most part the better dancers stayed in.

Personally I find Kate a joy to watch - though I've never voted for her. But I find myself willing her on each week and I'd much rather sit and laugh at Kate and Anton's self-deprecating humour and have-a-go attitude, than wince at Gabby's steely determination and sour face when she doesn't get the highest score of the competition.”

I don't find Kate a joy to watch, either on or off the dance floor. She acts like a little girl lost, though she made a reasonable point on the phone on ITT tonight, when she said that if people are voting for her, then she'll keep going and she has a right to be there. Them's the rules, so we've just got to live with that. However, if its a Kenny/Kate final, then I just hope they give up the whole concept of SCD, because I find the whole idea of voting for favourites ludicrous if they can't dance.

I don't watch it in order to see the great British stiff upper lip, and self deprecating humour. I watch it to see people dance and improve, and hopefully to see a couple win who can dance. It doesn't matter if that's because they have improved drastically since week 1, or its because they already had some talent and have polished their technical skills and performance. Neither Kate nor Kenny have done either.
peely
15-11-2007
Originally Posted by cymrugirl:
“I think it's harsh to say she doesn't try when to me she clearly is. I certainly wouldn't be taking it as well as she is when people are constantly telling her how crap she is and how she doesn't deserve to be there. It's a great message to people though innit? If you suck you shouldn't even bother trying to dance! Maybe I should go to those regional comps and shout at the sidelines to the couples I think are awful. Even better, I should start with the young kids and tell them how they shouldn't even bother.
Let people do what they want to do and if they want to support kate then let them. It's all in good fun people ”

I haven't said she isn't trying, but its seems stupid for her to think she can be in the final of a dance contest, just because she's entered it. Dancing is good fun and good exercise, and at that level it doesn't matter if you're not very good, but winning a dance contest....ha ha ha ha ha ha.....
kittles
15-11-2007
Originally Posted by cymrugirl:
“I think it's harsh to say she doesn't try when to me she clearly is. I certainly wouldn't be taking it as well as she is when people are constantly telling her how crap she is and how she doesn't deserve to be there. It's a great message to people though innit? If you suck you shouldn't even bother trying to dance! Maybe I should go to those regional comps and shout at the sidelines to the couples I think are awful. Even better, I should start with the young kids and tell them how they shouldn't even bother.
Let people do what they want to do and if they want to support kate then let them. It's all in good fun people ”


rollox - no-one on here has ever said that you shouldn't bother to try and dance if you find it difficult. People aren't cross with Kate cos she isn't any good - I mean kenny is as much of a car crash - they're cross because she actually doesn't seem to care that much. I remember last year when James was paired with Georgine whatisface and how mortified she looked when Ola and Spoony were voted out over her - she was totally aware that they were better. I also remember what Daws said when he made it to the final and Emma didn't - he said and I paraphrase "it's hard for me to accept because she's better than me and in sport results are everything". However, at least daws made HUGE improvements

Kate however staggers around the floor being embarrasingly inept - I mean hell if you can't remember the steps at least attempt to move ur arms rather than leave them hanging by yout sides but nooooo

frankly she must be laughing at us - I mean she could get up and do the birdy song and people would still vote for her. Give us someone who tries and is rubbish over some who tries and is good anyday and the GBP is happy
mossy2103
15-11-2007
Originally Posted by eponadebs:
“Oh, go on then. Just cos you told me to I'll do it and vote somehow to get Kate out. Who would you like me to vote for to make sure that happens? You must know the tactical strategy, cos it obviously isn't just about me voting for the dancer I like (which of course must be the one you think is best - heaven forbid I'm voting for a dancer that isn't your favourite). I must ensure my hard earned cash is spent on a a Saturday night in a way that makes you happy. Please tell me, god forbid that I'd dare to use my own brains, feelings and preferences when I'm watching.

Oh, sorry, I forgot. I've been told so many times on this forum that this is a dancing contest - FULL STOP!!!!!! I must rush out and get my certified-dance-judge-fast-track-training right now!!!! And pay for 10 million others to do it too.”

I really do wonder sometimes if people take things way too literally....... whatever happened to a straight, friendly exchange/discussion based on "what ifs" and suppositions. It is getting needlessly personal.

And I suppose someone will now accuse me of telling them what to think or post .....
cymrugirl
15-11-2007
I think Kate does care...she certainly puts in a lot of hours on top of her daily routine. I don't think people should confuse being slow to learn with not trying. And kate made a huge breakthrough in her dancing the week before. I don't get why people want to be angry at her. Everyone's goal is to get to the final or why else would they still be in the comp. Why is it ok for it to be everyone else's goal but not hers regardless of whether you're good or bad. And she doesn't need to apologise for anything. She does it the best she can and leaves it to the public decide. I really don't understand why people take it out on her. Blame yourselves for not voting enough for your favourites.
itsnotcricket
16-11-2007
I have never been so angry about an unworthy contestant being voted back week after week than I am with Kate.

The pure selfishness of the girl and her fans is incredible. Do these so-called SCD fans grasp the fact that by voting for someone with two left feet to stay in a dancing competition, they are preventing someone with genuine talent from progressing further in the show? What the majority of viewers want to see is the celebrities who have an aptitude for dancing getting better and better and performing more stylishly as the weeks pass. It is a show about dancing, not a comedy knockabout. I'm not an expert and don't understand some of the judges' criticisms, but we can see when someone is putting in a good performance or not.

Every week Kate pleads for people to vote for her. She should be bloody ashamed of herself. I don't suppose that contractually she can just drop out but she could be a little more modest in her request, e.g. "vote for me if you think I was any good".

If this sort of thing carries on into the next series the programme will have lost all credibility.
itsnotcricket
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by cymrugirl:
“I think Kate does care...she certainly puts in a lot of hours on top of her daily routine. I don't think people should confuse being slow to learn with not trying. And kate made a huge breakthrough in her dancing the week before. I don't get why people want to be angry at her. Everyone's goal is to get to the final or why else would they still be in the comp. Why is it ok for it to be everyone else's goal but not hers regardless of whether you're good or bad. And she doesn't need to apologise for anything. She does it the best she can and leaves it to the public decide. I really don't understand why people take it out on her. Blame yourselves for not voting enough for your favourites.”

Some of the other celebrities don't have the media access that Kate has. Every morning the GMTV publicity machine gears itself up to ask the audience to vote for Kate. She doesn't leave it to the public to decide, she makes emotional appeals to be kept in the show, although heaven knows why she wants to stay.
kitten12
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by itsnotcricket:
“ It is a show about dancing, not a comedy knockabout.

Every week Kate pleads for people to vote for her. She should be bloody ashamed of herself. I don't suppose that contractually she can just drop out but she could be a little more modest in her request, e.g. "vote for me if you think I was any good".

If this sort of thing carries on into the next series the programme will have lost all credibility.”


Well put. I agree entirely. She could show a little more humility in her "pleading" which comes across as desparation.

When I first heard she was on SCD, I was pleased and really hoped she would show Fiona Phillips up for what she really is - a shallow show pony, with little or no talent who relied on her weekday showcase to pull out the votes for her. Sadly, Kate seems cut from the same cloth, with a poor attitude and no shame.

Let's just say goodbye to her this week.
peely
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by cymrugirl:
“I think Kate does care...she certainly puts in a lot of hours on top of her daily routine. I don't think people should confuse being slow to learn with not trying. And kate made a huge breakthrough in her dancing the week before. I don't get why people want to be angry at her. Everyone's goal is to get to the final or why else would they still be in the comp. Why is it ok for it to be everyone else's goal but not hers regardless of whether you're good or bad. And she doesn't need to apologise for anything. She does it the best she can and leaves it to the public decide. I really don't understand why people take it out on her. Blame yourselves for not voting enough for your favourites.”

Well of course its her goal, but this is not BB. Its not just some media hyped (though it is of course) personality contest. Well I don't think it should be. I think its grossly unfair on the professionals and their reputations that someone they could coach into being a much better dancer is shunted out of the competition to make way for someone who has little ability. Of course its the rules, but we don't have to agree with the rules do we, and I still enjoy the competition, so will continue watching, unless Kate gets to the final of course. What's the point in the final then...lol

You would have thought that ITV (and Kate herself) would be embarrassed to have such a competetitor as its figurehead, but evidently not, its media hype, that's all it is. That's probably why I don't watch ITV that much.
cymrugirl
16-11-2007
My point is no one should feel embarrassed or sorry or angry. I've been in classes where the girls that don't do so well get b*tched at all the time and I just feel for them. It's bad enough having a few girls in the class saying stuff like that, to having it said on national tv and then having people doing writeups about it in papers and mags and forums. She's also not the first to ask for votes since I'm guessing Natasha, Bill and Fiona probably did the same.

I don't vote for kate and probably will not in future but I don't see why she needs to apologise for having a go. I can't get angry if a dancer I like goes because I know I don't vote enough (well...not all this year...oops).
Maybe to keep everyone happy, they should scrap the xmas special for a judges dream contest where they can bring back the couples that they thought should have made it further and make them do 10 dances on the night with max 6 couples so they can all take to the floor at the same time. I dunno but I just don't see the point of people getting worked up over it. Enjoy it for what it is I say.
nathanbrazil
16-11-2007
I don't like this show, and only catch parts of it while flicking around, but I do watch GMTV and think that Kate Garraway has a great combination of girl-next-door sexiness and down-to-earth attitude. Just a pity she married a New Labour spin-dcotor.
peely
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by cymrugirl:
“My point is no one should feel embarrassed or sorry or angry. I've been in classes where the girls that don't do so well get b*tched at all the time and I just feel for them. It's bad enough having a few girls in the class saying stuff like that, to having it said on national tv and then having people doing writeups about it in papers and mags and forums. She's also not the first to ask for votes since I'm guessing Natasha, Bill and Fiona probably did the same.

I don't vote for kate and probably will not in future but I don't see why she needs to apologise for having a go. I can't get angry if a dancer I like goes because I know I don't vote enough (well...not all this year...oops).
Maybe to keep everyone happy, they should scrap the xmas special for a judges dream contest where they can bring back the couples that they thought should have made it further and make them do 10 dances on the night with max 6 couples so they can all take to the floor at the same time. I dunno but I just don't see the point of people getting worked up over it. Enjoy it for what it is I say.”

I still think that GMTV should feel embarrassed for encouraging people to vote for her, and I don't know why Kate doesn't feel embarrassed every time she comes out and stumbles around the floor. Even if she has no rhythm or finds it difficult to put in a performance, she could still learn the steps. She did a creditable foxtrot?? I think it was, but that was because she had the master to lead her, and its pretty much all in hold.

Anyhow, I'm going to leave it now, and go and do something completely different over the weekend. I will have to watch the recordings of ITT and the main show on Sunday.
ICantDance
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by itsnotcricket:
“Every week Kate pleads for people to vote for her. She should be bloody ashamed of herself. I don't suppose that contractually she can just drop out but she could be a little more modest in her request, e.g. "vote for me if you think I was any good". ”

Frankly I think you should be "bloody ashamed" of yourself.

Every vote for Kate earns 12p for Children in Need, and she has the right and the responsibility to campain for every vote she can get.

If this was a dance contest then we wouldnt have celebs in it at all. We wouldnt have biased self opinionated judges, and the program probably wouldnt have 10% of the viewers it currently enjoys. When will you lot realise that this program is about raising money for charity.
SCD-Observer
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by mel1986x:
“im not saying this to be mean but kate and anton should definately go this week, if they stay another good couple is going to be voted out (not alesha and matt coz they're brill). kate's got guts and all but come on britain WAKE UP!!!! how much longer can she last??”

This is not BB, so you can't vote a person out because you don't like him/her.
The_abbott
16-11-2007
I think she will go this week nudge nudge wink wink
allyfree
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by ICantDance:
“If this was a dance contest then we wouldnt have celebs in it at all. We wouldnt have biased self opinionated judges, and the program probably wouldnt have 10% of the viewers it currently enjoys. When will you lot realise that this program is about raising money for charity.”

Brilliantly put
violet_creme
16-11-2007
I know I'm going to spend much more this week voting for Alesha/Matt/Kelly/Gethin/Letita than I ever have before hoping my votes count in putting Kate and/or Kenny and/or John in the bottom two.
kitten12
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by ICantDance:
“Every vote for Kate earns 12p for Children in Need, and she has the right and the responsibility to campain for every vote she can get.”


I am tired of this argument getting trotted out. If she wasn't in the competition, showing herself and Anton up hideously every week, then people would vote for someone else. I am all for people doing their bit for charity, but to claim that she is doing this "for the kids" is nonsense. She has earned herself a fat fee and she wants the exposure. Just go home Kate and let us enjoy the show again.
The_abbott
16-11-2007
if this was Big brother I would vote Kate out but its not unfortunately. Shes there until the Kate fans have no money left.
indigomoon
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by violet_creme:
“I know I'm going to spend much more this week voting for Alesha/Matt/Kelly/Gethin/Letita than I ever have before hoping my votes count in putting Kate and/or Kenny and/or John in the bottom two.”


And I will spend more money than ever before voting Kate and Anton to ensure they stay in ! And who will benefit? Why Children in Need, from both your anti and my pro vote. Long may Kate reign the ,Queen of Quails, ensuring CIN makes a packet and incidently dealing a blow to all those dance snobs out there!
clonion
16-11-2007
Every vote earns 12p for CiN, regardless of who they're for. So in that case, why not vote for someone who merits a place at this stage? You'd still be donating the same amount of money...
sarah-flute
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by indigomoon:
“incidently dealing a blow to all those dance snobs out there!”

You mean anyone who actually wants to see decent dancing is a dance snob?

Originally Posted by clonion:
“Every vote earns 12p for CiN, regardless of who they're for. So in that case, why not vote for someone who merits a place at this stage? You'd still be donating the same amount of money...”

^ exactly.

Though apparently some people do get entertainment from watching the poor woman stumble about the floor. Bit too much like blood sport for me...
kitten12
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by indigomoon:
“And I will spend more money than ever before voting Kate and Anton to ensure they stay in ! And who will benefit? Why Children in Need, from both your anti and my pro vote. Long may Kate reign the ,Queen of Quails, ensuring CIN makes a packet and incidently dealing a blow to all those dance snobs out there!”

No, not dance snobs, just viewers who like the spirit of the show to be observed and not hijacked by publicity hungry, gurning, non-trying, non-improving, and pleading so-called celebs!

And you could just as easily help CIN by donating yourself directly or voting for someone who cares.
indigomoon
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by kitten12:
“No, not dance snobs, just viewers who like the spirit of the show to be observed and not hijacked by publicity hungry, gurning, non-trying, non-improving, and pleading so-called celebs!

And you could just as easily help CIN by donating yourself directly or voting for someone who cares.”


The personal attacks on Kate, someone I doubt you know in person, show the real anti Kate agenda. Go on make the world a brighter place and post positively!
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