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matt.b
23-06-2003
I personally find it sad this is bad, just fuels conspiracy theory the full account


Monday 16th



Big Brother HouseMates are told that there will two evictions this week. Neither they nor the public are told how many people will be up for the public vote and how that decision will be reached.



Following this announcement, the HouseMates make their nominations.





Tuesday 17th



The nomination results are announced. There are three HouseMates up for the public vote, Cameron, Fed and Jon.



That there are only three names and two to be evicted displeases much of the public. It becomes like the final, decide who you want to keep, rather than who you would like to go. Only, to keep the HouseMate of your choice, you would have to make two votes against his competitors.



Having a minimum of four HouseMates nominated would have significantly changed the voting process.



The HouseMates and the public start to wonder if two evictions means that a new HouseMate is coming into the house, but with hindsight this can't be the case. The new South African HouseMate has not added to the numbers, the numbers have not changed as it was a swap. Neither can the reason be because Cameron cannot be nominated, for the rest of the HouseMates, nominations and eviction continue as normal. There will still be one person each week leaving. The reason for a double eviction is still nothing more than for 'shock value'.



Wednesday 18th



Cameron begins to feature prominantly in Channel 4's half hour Big Brother. Fed is practically invisible and is shown to be the HouseMate who 'failed' the task, in fact, Gos also failed to make it to the podium in time, this was ignored and the HouseMates won the task. Jon begins to be shown in a negative light, a continuation of the previous week when his nomination reasons were edited to the point of giving a new meaning.



Thursday 19th



Cameron shows his 'darker' side to E4 viewers. Having already 'felt up' Nush after learning she was wearing no knickers, Cameron states that he would like to take Jon by the throat and smash his face into the back of his head (or something similar). Cameron also states that he would like to urinate in Jon's shower gel and defecate in Jon's shoes. None of this is reported on the web site or on Channel 4.



cameron's outburst followed what was later shown by Channel 4 as Jon suddenly turning on Ray and accusing him of beating women. This was not the case. The girls had previously told Jon that they didn't like Ray going into their room. Jon and other HouseMates had discussed many times that Ray takes a joke too far. The girls thanked Jon for defending them the following day. Also, the following day, Gos and Scott defended Jon's stance against Ray. Only Jon seeming to accuse Ray was reported to the majority of the public, and was done so on eviction night!



Cameron is leading the polls as favourite to remain in the house.



Friday 20th



The polls begin to change and many are showing Jon as a clear favourite to remain in the house. Following which many members of the public are finding it hard to register votes against Cameron. Phone lines were down or engaged. Text votes were returned as 'errors', there have been reports of text votes being returned 'after' the eviction unregistered. No problems were found with Jon and Fed's voting.



The Channel 4 show airs Jon's apparant outburst on Ray and also a snippet of a conversation which gives the impression that Jon is sexist. The conversation was a wind up session in which all HouseMates involved were ribbing each other in good nature. There is no mention of Cameron's behaviour and comments, and Fed is barely featured. The lines are still open and Davina makes negative comments about Jon after the previous day's highlights are shown.



After Fed's eviction the net voting is down for Jon but not for Cameron. Jon's number is left up for a while and Cameron's for a split second.



Jon is evicted with apparantly 1% in it, though official figures still haven't been released. If people were able to vote against Cameron would this have effected that 1% margin?



The Sun has printed a story stating that a new twist to the show will be a HouseMate swap with South Africa's Big Brother. The Sun claims that the winner of Friday's eviction will be the one to be flown out to South Africa.



Saturday 21st



The public await a new HouseMate, convinced that this is the reason for a double eviction. It's a fair presumption, one extra person has left the house and so we would expect them to be replaced.



The mini task occurs and results in one HouseMate being left alone for a number of hours while the others are in the Reward Room. Nothing happens.



Sunday 22nd



Only a few hours after a HouseMate has been left alone, Big Brother seek the opportunity to remove a HouseMate without any of the others catching on. They lock the HouseMates in the girl's room to ensure that the HouseMate leaving is alone.



A HouseMate is called to the diary room, HouseMates are not told that this is to be an individual task. Cameron answers the call and is told that his task is to visit South Africa to deliver a message to Big Brother there.



The Sun's story appears to be spookily true. While Big Brother have made this out to be a totally random choice of HouseMate, The Sun rightly said that it would be the winner of Friday night's eviction.
Keltic
23-06-2003
Thanks Matt.

It's quite sad that I was banned for this methinks! But yeah, it adds fuel to the fire.

None of the few replies were swearing or derogatory, just stating that they thought it was a fix!

I posted to say my topic had gone, didn't repeat the message ,others told what the topic was about. Again, I didn't swear, I didn't make accusations.

After I was banned, there was a thread calling me to tell me my topic about my deleted topic was gone, lol. That too has been deleted!

I guess I have to join the ranks of the none-sheep!

Thanks again Matt, just hoping that someone will come over here and find it after they suggested this group, without directly naming it of course
EddyBee
23-06-2003
Well done & Well said Keltic !
astro
23-06-2003
Good summary
cr0fty
23-06-2003
Keep posting it over and over and over again as various usernames.
Keltic
23-06-2003
ROFL

I'll have to make some new hotmail e-mail addies!

You know, I even mailed the mods, no reply!



Like I said, I think I prefer it on here. The level of censorship is disgusting on 'the other one'!
Temp3st
23-06-2003
you don't need new hotmail accounts - just use this

http://www.tempmail.co.nz/

1nce
23-06-2003
Also at ten o clock on friday they still had not reopened the phone lines for Jon and Cameron in Ireland (tried both-was nervous i'd get Jon's number but his line was also down)
As far as I know they NEVER opened them back up for the Second eviction.

But If someone could get through after ten let us know
Keltic
23-06-2003
I know that after 10 I text voted Cameron, and it refused to accept it, others have said that as late as today they have had the votes returned as unregistered!

I also know that the web voting was open for Jon, but not for Cam after Fed was evicted.
Goodfella
23-06-2003
thought I would sneak in here instead of dragging up my own thread

all we know from Feds eviction is he got 40.1% They dont give us the Cam/Jon %s. This is very unusual for an eviction.

Then at the end of the evening , they release the totals for the whole evening, not splitting the totals for the 1st & 2nd eviction. Then when they release details on Cam and Jons votes, they havent told us their totals in the 2 separate evictions, and they dont give the % split for the 2nd eviction either. Very unusual.

I think someone suggested the 2 evictions on one night idea to the Producer, theyve tried it out, then as the 2nd vote got under way they realised the carrying over of the votes was a serious flaw and they have delibaratly gave out only bits and pieces of the final results and mixed up the %s and totals of the 2 evictions etc so we wont notice.

Its not rigged or fixed or anything. Its just been a total boob and they released ambiguous figures to try and cover it up.

What is the point in giving Feds % of the final total for the night (29%) when he wasnt in the 2nd eviction? It was 2 separate evictions.

oh my
zazza
23-06-2003
FYI

I just reposted your account as 'the amazing disappearing thread'
Jilly
23-06-2003
Keltic I have been banned for nearly a week now for just trying to post a poll about nominations, mind you tried four times.
Keltic
23-06-2003
Lol, Jilly, I remember that!
Keltic
23-06-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by zazza
FYI

I just reposted your account as 'the amazing disappearing thread'
”

That's hilarious, rofl!
zzenzero
23-06-2003
Thank you for this excellent summary of events.Just what was needed.

Shall use it in due course when I become the only forum member to pay a visit to Endermol's HQ at Shepherds Bush.

Talk is fine but sometimes talk is not enough.

If Endemol visited this forum, they'd just smile.
If the forum visited Endemol,they'd not smile.
Keltic
23-06-2003
Zazza, Please can you let Cosmic Moon know that I am not who she thinks I am, I am still not on the forum! When I get back on, I will let them know somehow it is me. Thanks.

zzenzero. Please use that posting anywhere you want to, and that goes for everyone! Spread the word, lol
Goodfella
23-06-2003
Im just thinking, I can see how Endemol were viewing the evictions now. They were viewing it as a 3 horse race where 1 horse would fall at a hurdle. THats ok if people are voting for their fav housemate, but to vote for someone apart from your favourite when there are more than 1 to choose from, makes it unfair. Then not clearing the decks after Fed was gone made it even more unfair.

I dont see why they couldnt release the %s of Cam & Jon after the 1st eviction ? thats the part thats been with-held. If that was released it would become obvious it was a flawed idea.
peppie
23-06-2003
A very balanced summary of events Keltic

Welcome to DS.


I'm glad that forum members here had the updates from the DS reporters and those of us who can comment as we have digital/net feeds. i for one could never rely on the the 9pm updates or the press to paint a true picture of what is happening in the house.
Keltic
23-06-2003
There is no way that they would release those figures. Well, not that I believe anyway, lol.

People knew this was flawed from day one, it wasn't thought out at all well!
matt.b
23-06-2003
well keltic scottiesfan666 me gave u a good advice 472 views and no ban

me just being modest

no scott is fit messages just serious and mature fans here
Wooster
23-06-2003
A few minor corrections in the interests of accuracy.

Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
Big Brother HouseMates are told that there will two evictions this week. Neither they nor the public are told how many people will be up for the public vote and how that decision will be reached.”

They were told that at least three people would be up for nomination.

Quote:
“
Fed is practically invisible and is shown to be the HouseMate who 'failed' the task, in fact, Gos also failed to make it to the podium in time, this was ignored and the HouseMates won the task.
”

Gos failed the task by wearing part of his costume - a t-shirt - around the house instead of changing into it in the phonebooth.

Quote:
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Cameron states that he would like to take Jon by the throat and smash his face into the back of his head (or something similar). Cameron also states that he would like to urinate in Jon's shower gel and defecate in Jon's shoes. .
”

Not to defend the creep in any way but Cameron actually said he could take 'someone like' Jon and smash his face into the back of his throat. Not a direct threat as such.
Also he only suggested someone else would like to urinate in Jon's shower gel and defecate in Jon's shoes. Again, not making a direct threat.

He's a crafty one that Cameron.
leBonk
23-06-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Keltic
I know that after 10 I text voted Cameron, and it refused to accept it......... ”

Same here!
Keltic
23-06-2003
Thanks Wooster!

That is all I wanted from the 'other site'. Discussion about the myths and the truths!

Try to get this sorted once and for all.
untitled
23-06-2003
all good but

Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
Big Brother HouseMates are told that there will two evictions this week. Neither they nor the public are told how many people will be up for the public vote and how that decision will be reached.”

that bit isn't true
lulu
23-06-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by leBonk
Same here! ”

re text voting....don't they 'close' text voting early??

lu
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