Firstly I have on SVHS all the Ray bedroom prank, thru to Jon's retort and the Fed winding up of Ray. All I have on tape is 42mins after the prank where Cameron suggests pissing in the shower gel and shitting in his shoes and agrees with Fed that;


Federico – ‘if he had of said that to Cameron he would have been sparkled on the floor’

Cameron – ‘you’re no wrong there’


Now I ASSUME that the kicking his head in comment was made at some point between 2.10am where my tape runs out and 3am on early Friday (20th) morning.

There are obviously members on this board that would like to see the footage (myself included) in any format (DivX, mpg, wmv, XviD etc) and I can't see any better way of obtaining it that a direct plea on digitalspy.

I hope this isn't a violation of the DS board rules considering the footage will be copyright, but we do have the private messaging system on here and email also.

And finally if this post is pushing the boundaries of what can be requested on DS then I fully understand, apologise and request that this thread is deleted by a moderator.

MrLovely

This needs posting .. go on -)

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People here said it happened,...but others are doubting it even occured.

So what's the score?

Who recorded anything from that night?

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It certainly did happen I saw it and it took me aback
To hear such things from a fellow countrymen, to me was a
rather scary and unexpected.
After that Cameron sat down on the settee he was holding a pair of shears/scissors in his hand .

hope that can jog a few memories
Sorry I do not have a tape
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We need to get this. So many people in my office were completely shocked when I told them what Camoron had said about Jon.

"What, Camoron? Really? I didn't like him at first, but then he came out of his shell a bit... I think I was right the first time," was the general reaction.

If we had this footage we could 'pletely screw up C4/Endthemall's plans for Camoron to win!

Roll on two weeks! "Camoron, you have one hour to pack your belongings and say your goodbyes..."

He didn't actually say it to Jon's face, no-one actually said anything to Jon, it was all said after he had gone back to bed, even Ray's "get a f*****g personality" comment. Whether Jon was right or wrong in what he said to Ray, not one of the guys was big enough to confront the person they were all being so vitriolic about.

VoR

Ah. Sorry for that, I did know that he hadn't actually said it to Jon but for some reason my fingers typed something else... I've now corrected my original post.

On the other subject, I think Jon was overreacting. However Camoron's response was unmerited... as is his staying in the house, jetting off to Africa, avoiding noms for two weeks... etc, etc...

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I'm sure Jon's brother Phil will have it recorded or, someone in Digital Spy land (hopefully)

What's the betting that the footage from that night will have been mysteriously "damaged", lost, "a magnet accidently placed next to tape" or no one was at the recording desk when the events happened?

I'd love to see the scottish bible thumper, pound that little arrogant puke Jon into the ground. Too bad it wont happen now.

Yeah, come on. Anybody who taped it. Please. We need to see it.

The thging is, like several other people I wrote emails to the C4 duty office, Endemol, The Guardian, etc. I guess it was a little silly of me to do this without seeing and hearing it for myself, but when I wrote these emails I explained how Cameron had said these awful things about Jon. I wrote in these emails about how Cameron said he'd like to punch Jon's face to the back of his throat, etc. Since several people here quoted the exact same thing, I thought it MUST have happened.

Yet not a single person can prove it with evidence.

Was I very silly for writing FALSE stuff to newspapers? Someone please prove that this stuff happened, so I don't feel so silly.

You won't see that tape because it doesn't exist.

The story about what Cameron said is just a fabrication made up by desparate Jon Tickle fans to try and sway the public vote in their favour.

Thankfully it did not succeed and my BB4 series is now made up with seeing all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by people on this forum who are so upset their favourite was evicted.

However the spite of these people means they still have to peddle all this rubbish about Cameron - the man who beat their precious Jon.

I don't think Cam will win. I think there are other HMs who are more popular than him and his not being able to be nominated for the next 2 weeks will defintely hurt his chances.

But what the heck why not waste your summer going in for a character assassination hatchet job if thats what turns you on.

Shades of Jonny Regan from last years BB IMO.

Bumpsies.

Even if that bit of tape never surfaces I saw enough nastiness from Cameron that never made it to the highlight programme.

I based my judgement on what I saw.

What was meant to have happened ????????

If you harbor such violent tendencies yourself going by your post, then I can see why you like Cameron so much.

I have taped over it but did post a thread at the time, with Cameron's exact words.

"I could take someone like that by their throat and smash their face right to the back of their head."

smash here

Yes it was aggressive but my interpretation was that it was a figure of speech and not an actual threat to Jon, who by now was fast asleep in bed.

Oh you would so like it not to be true wouldn't you. I never saw it either, but going by the amount of posts written about it, I am inclined to believe your precious Cameron is guilty of those utterings. People have been speculating for weeks about Cameron's dark side, I believe Cameron to be a nasty bit of work. Your post stinks of bitterness that your Cameron is not so loved on this forum as Jon.

Oohh, I dunno, Cameron's face was pretty flustered when he said it plus, he was holding a pair of scissors quite menacingly.

So back to the original question, does anyone actually have evidence of this happening or was everyone just acting on "the emperor's new clothes" mentality?

There's no denying he was very animated and did show the dark side of his personality but very tricky to prove that it was an actual threat.

No, but there's plenty more windmills out there.