OK this isn't a bashing thread as I thought they danced very well BUT at the end of the dance during the spin both her feet clearly came off the floor which constitutes a lift - I know it wasn't an intentional lift BUT why did none of the judges point it out and why weren't they marked down for it?

Matt and Carol were last year and imagine if it had been Kelly and Brendan? The fuss would have been astronomical.


Talk about double standards - come on judges get it sorted!

I think the term 'judges discretion' comes into play here...It was obviously a mistake and not intentional and they take this into account.

So it was a mistake - again it should have been marked down, Matt D made a mistake and Craig marked him down.

Matt and Carol's last year was a mistake but they were marked down.

As Brendan said last year, for goodness sake let's have some consistancy!

None of them gave them 10, so all of them marked them down.

I actually thought I'd imagined this lift/spin but it seems not. One of her feet clearly stays on the floor - is that constituted as a lift? I'm sure it's not.

It was not an intentional lift at all, Carols last year was an intentional lift, as was Brendans this year. Matt actually tripped and lost the routine for a second or two. All Letitia was doing was curling her feet under her to end on the floor! If both feet did come off the floor, and it is almost impossible to tell properly from the footage, it was for a split nanosecond, when they had finished dancing.

One of her feet did stay on the floor, so that doesn't make it a lift, and the judges rightly so didn't mark her down. If she was lifted off the floor intentionally or unintentionally, then the judges would have said something about it.

That's what I thought. If contact with the floor is maintained, then it isn't a lift.

Letitia wasn't lifted, one foot definitely stayed on the floor at all times. Look at the footage again more closely!

During most of the spin one foot is on the floor but right at the end when she puts both feet together both feet are clearly off the ground - look again, even my husband saw it and he's hardly the most observant person in the world!

Sorry but don't agree with you,....must have seen another routine then.

Exactly what I would have said!

As the post leads unintentional lift, Craig on ITT after this years Brendon lift said that if a lift was unintentional he would not mark them down.

SD

I didnt notice a lift?
Will have to watch it again...

Just seen this again but I think one foot was still on the floor, can't see anything wrong with it.

have just watched their dance again and i really cant see feet where they shouldnt be - sorry!

I watched that closely and could not see any feet off the floor. You must be using an extra large microscope OP.

I watched this carefully and I agree aeryn .

But their dance wasn't worth a '10'.

Der Chef says

I dont particularly like that couple (and would love to bash them) BUT I didnt see an awful lot wrong that every other female dancer pro or celeb does every other week during spins and pivots.

What the judges are looking for is intent just like in the penalty box is it ball to hand or hand to ball ect

Ohhh Yeah

On the hihglights tonight, i thought Gethina and Camilla had one also (unintentional), and they weren't penalised.

It happened last year more than once, one of Louisa and Vincent's rountine, don't remember which one, it was Anton and Philip Jackson in the commentary box and both said 'it was a lift'. They didn't get mark down. The point is, the judges were never consistent so you just have to get use to it.

Yeah - we do know that they're all on something after all!

I think I recall Len saying he wasn't AS bothered about an unintentionaly lift vs as choreographed one. That said I seem to remember them penalising Jill and Darren for an unintentional lift in, I think in their samba.

We also have to remember that what we might see after rewatching it several times, the judges have to spot as it happens and don't get a replay!

Have just watched this again. Her foot doesn't leave the floor during the spin, and when it does, it's because she's getting into position for the finish (down on one knee).

No unintentional lift at all.

I agree, definitly not a lift. She was just swinging her foot down for the ending.