In Camilla and Gethins routine Camilla's feet come off the floor for a moment two - accidently!

There is a rule in Ballroom that has something to do with a beat...? I've heard it talked about on DWTS - if there is an unintentional lift - i.e. feet come off for a flitting nano second then its okay? Not sure though!

You know, I have a feeling I have heard something similar. Not sure though... may be talking total rubbish!

I think it must be harder to penalise a very brief, accidental lift anyway - just because it's more difficult to spot!!

Whereas doing an extra lift in a routine is obvious to all (cf Kelly and Brendan, Carol and Matthew).

Can somebody remind me of L&D's scores?

I thought it was a great job they did in the foxtrot, Letitia looked suitably stately and gracious (as only us 40 somethings and over can do haha!).

8 8 9 9

Thanks. So in other words, two judges either did not see an error and felt the dance worth a 9, or did see it and would have otherwise given a 10?

Probably the first. The judges seem to favour some more than others, Tish & Darren being the ones they don't

I know it was accidental, i was kind of emphasising the point that unintentional lifts were not being penalised.

I heard it was that if feet didn't go above waist height and was less than 4 beats, it was ok....but that doesn't fit in with some of the lifts that have been penalised - Carol for example.

Carol (if you mean the one I think you do) was penalised because their lift was choreographed into the dance. Matt didn't think it was a lift, as proffessionally its a 'throw' - however, Craig claimed if you choreography both feet off the floor its a lift.

I can see both instances where both feet may/were off the ground in Leticia and Gethin's dance. Both seemed unintentional and tiny faults. I agree that Leticia's may have been her maneouvering herself into her last move and therefore she was not technically lifted by Darren.

From the judges point of view, I would expect them to heavily penalise a choreographic decision to break the rules.

On unintentional lifts, as as judge I would use my discretion: if I decided that it was unlikely that the celebrity could have completed the move without assistance, I would make an adjustment to my score.

If however, I made the decision that it was a minor error, I would make a substantially smaller adjustment.

An outsider would find it very hard to see the adjustment because I would be working within my mental quarter-point scoring. (for example: if the dance was nearer a 8 than a 7, but the unintentional lift may make me give a score of 7, but I could still give an 8).

As a judge (in a completely different sport), I expect people who come under me to accept my experience, knowledge and JUDGEment.