OK how about someone like Katherine Jenkins? Beautiful, young, charming, fabulous opera singer who far outclasses Lesley Garrett. Anton should be able to go places with her.
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Originally Posted by Lydia T. Pott:
“Well a good starting point would be someone else with a perfect musical ear...
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“Well a good starting point would be someone else with a perfect musical ear...
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How would you know they had one ?
You don't need to be a singer or a musician or a dancer to have one.
Originally Posted by LaChatteGitane:
“How would you know they had one ?
You don't need to be a singer or a musician or a dancer to have one.”
“How would you know they had one ?
You don't need to be a singer or a musician or a dancer to have one.”
My dance teacher, on first dancing with me, instantly said "You are musical!"
She's right - I'm a singer. I don't suppose I have a "perfect" musical ear though, and I don't know if Lesley Garrett really has one either, but being musical must help, surely?
Originally Posted by Birdie65:
“My dance teacher, on first dancing with me, instantly said "You are musical!"
She's right - I'm a singer. I don't suppose I have a "perfect" musical ear though, and I don't know if Lesley Garrett really has one either, but being musical must help, surely?”
“My dance teacher, on first dancing with me, instantly said "You are musical!"
She's right - I'm a singer. I don't suppose I have a "perfect" musical ear though, and I don't know if Lesley Garrett really has one either, but being musical must help, surely?”
That is what I am saying though. But how would you know if a presenter or actress or athlete is not musical. You can't tell from just clasping an eye on them.
What I am trying to say is : How will they be able to tell if a celeb is a good partner for Anton ?
I know who is a good strong partner for Anton : ERIN !
Anton says he can tell from one touch whether someone will be a good dancer or not. I suppose that means he needs to go out and feel up lots of female celebrities to find the right one!
Form an orderly queue, please, ladies! Miss Winslet! You're first!
Form an orderly queue, please, ladies! Miss Winslet! You're first!
In my opinion the most beautiful dancers I've seen on SCD are Anton and Erin. I don't like it when people think he can't dance Latin - surely the professional prepares a routine that is suited to his/her partner so if his partner was a fabulous dancer wouldn't his routine be too? I would love to see Anton do more Latin dancing and Erin - acutally I would just love to see them do more dancing.
I will sign. Anton may be the oldest competitior, but that does not mean he has to have the older contestants. He also deserves someone with even a modicum of talent. I hope he gets someone really good next year.
Originally Posted by Birdie65:
“Anton says he can tell from one touch whether someone will be a good dancer or not. I suppose that means he needs to go out and feel up lots of female celebrities to find the right one!
Form an orderly queue, please, ladies! Miss Winslet! You're first!”
“Anton says he can tell from one touch whether someone will be a good dancer or not. I suppose that means he needs to go out and feel up lots of female celebrities to find the right one!
Form an orderly queue, please, ladies! Miss Winslet! You're first!
”
Fabulous!
I wonder what I 'feel like'.
Me again - are we sure Anton will want to do another series? Without Anton and Erin it wouldn't be the same for me. If I was asked to dance with Anton I would consider it a great privilege to be asked. On DWTS the compere asked the 'Stars' if they understood the privilege of being asked to dance with the professionals - nothing like that is said in this Country.
That's why if I was a celeb I would have to say no. Being partnered with me would instantly scupper a professional's chances and wouldn't be fair.
Originally Posted by LaChatteGitane:
“Anton may be as unhansome as Fred Astair, but he certainly can't dance like him.”
“Anton may be as unhansome as Fred Astair, but he certainly can't dance like him.”
What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire than most of the other male dancers on SCD when it comes to the ballroom dances. I've had a think (and believe me I do know almost all of Astaire's films slightly too well) and I can't think of any Astaire performance that is what people on SCD call Latin. NB he danced to many Latin pieces of music and the first film where Astaire and Rogers dance together is called 'Flying Down to Rio', but he didn't do the camp (perhaps slightly naff?) steps that you get on SCD.
This is Fred and Ginger's first screen duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBt929GtdU - a bit stilted perhaps? However, it did lead to them starring together in a further eight films in the 1930s.
What Astaire could do is to do partner work (with Ginger Rogers for instance) and then break away and do some totally kick-arse tap, with incredibly complex syncopated beats (NOT the naff ISTD-syllabus tap step ball-changes that are the mainstay of British dance schools!) In fact these two clips (two halves of the same song) are quite reminiscent of SCD rehearsal and then performance footage
"Rehearsal": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXZkBIxso4
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...
Originally Posted by TallyHo77:
“What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire than most of the other male dancers on SCD when it comes to the ballroom dances. I've had a think (and believe me I do know almost all of Astaire's films slightly too well) and I can't think of any Astaire performance that is what people on SCD call Latin. NB he danced to many Latin pieces of music and the first film where Astaire and Rogers dance together is called 'Flying Down to Rio', but he didn't do the camp (perhaps slightly naff?) steps that you get on SCD.
This is Fred and Ginger's first screen duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBt929GtdU - a bit stilted perhaps? However, it did lead to them starring together in a further eight films in the 1930s.
What Astaire could do is to do partner work (with Ginger Rogers for instance) and then break away and do some totally kick-arse tap, with incredibly complex syncopated beats (NOT the naff ISTD-syllabus tap step ball-changes that are the mainstay of British dance schools!) In fact these two clips (two halves of the same song) are quite reminiscent of SCD rehearsal and then performance footage
"Rehearsal": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXZkBIxso4
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...”
“What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire than most of the other male dancers on SCD when it comes to the ballroom dances. I've had a think (and believe me I do know almost all of Astaire's films slightly too well) and I can't think of any Astaire performance that is what people on SCD call Latin. NB he danced to many Latin pieces of music and the first film where Astaire and Rogers dance together is called 'Flying Down to Rio', but he didn't do the camp (perhaps slightly naff?) steps that you get on SCD.
This is Fred and Ginger's first screen duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBt929GtdU - a bit stilted perhaps? However, it did lead to them starring together in a further eight films in the 1930s.
What Astaire could do is to do partner work (with Ginger Rogers for instance) and then break away and do some totally kick-arse tap, with incredibly complex syncopated beats (NOT the naff ISTD-syllabus tap step ball-changes that are the mainstay of British dance schools!) In fact these two clips (two halves of the same song) are quite reminiscent of SCD rehearsal and then performance footage
"Rehearsal": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXZkBIxso4
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...”
Amazing post - thank you.
Didn't Anton come 3rd with Lesley Garrett in series 1 and would have been runner up if the EE fans hadn't kept voting for the original recipient of the sympathy vote Christopher Parker.
We have no way of knowing how much Lesley's grating personality affected the voting. There seem to be people who like her a lot but equally plenty who can't stand her because of that personality. So yes they might have been in the final had it not been for the mad Chris Parker fans combined with Lesley herself. I can recall at the time huge relief by many people when she went.
Originally Posted by Birdie65:
“We have no way of knowing how much Lesley's grating personality affected the voting. There seem to be people who like her a lot but equally plenty who can't stand her because of that personality. So yes they might have been in the final had it not been for the mad Chris Parker fans combined with Lesley herself. I can recall at the time huge relief by many people when she went.”
“We have no way of knowing how much Lesley's grating personality affected the voting. There seem to be people who like her a lot but equally plenty who can't stand her because of that personality. So yes they might have been in the final had it not been for the mad Chris Parker fans combined with Lesley herself. I can recall at the time huge relief by many people when she went.”
Well I must confess I don't like her although I am a classical music fan - so you are probably right, she is no doubt one of those you love or hate, otherwise with Anton as her partner, she would probably have overcome the CP vote.
Originally Posted by Birdie65:
“Anton says he can tell from one touch whether someone will be a good dancer or not. I suppose that means he needs to go out and feel up lots of female celebrities to find the right one!
Form an orderly queue, please, ladies! Miss Winslet! You're first!”
“Anton says he can tell from one touch whether someone will be a good dancer or not. I suppose that means he needs to go out and feel up lots of female celebrities to find the right one!
Form an orderly queue, please, ladies! Miss Winslet! You're first!
”
*laughs* thanks for that gave me a good giggle!
It would be nice to see Anton partnered up with someone like Patsy Palmer again, someone with either some music or some dance background.
Originally Posted by Birdie65:
“We have no way of knowing how much Lesley's grating personality affected the voting. There seem to be people who like her a lot but equally plenty who can't stand her because of that personality. So yes they might have been in the final had it not been for the mad Chris Parker fans combined with Lesley herself. I can recall at the time huge relief by many people when she went.”
“We have no way of knowing how much Lesley's grating personality affected the voting. There seem to be people who like her a lot but equally plenty who can't stand her because of that personality. So yes they might have been in the final had it not been for the mad Chris Parker fans combined with Lesley herself. I can recall at the time huge relief by many people when she went.”
You really have a problem with Lesley don't you? You have to remember that in the first series people were mainly only voting for the celeb, so for Lesley to come third meant that she must have been pretty well liked. She managed to see off Claire Sweeney, who I actually think was probably the best dancer out of all of them, but then she did have dance experience unlike everyone else.
I think Antons niche is partnering the older lady, and that is the main reason I think the bbc keep him.
He has a great personality that just makes him sparkle on the floor, he makes his partners feel worthy and special no matter their age or ability. I feel this is an achievement in its self and no mean feat, so I'm quite happy that Anton has this niche because other wise i fear his dancing ability alone would not see him through, now that the competition seems to have reached new levels compared to old series.
He has a great personality that just makes him sparkle on the floor, he makes his partners feel worthy and special no matter their age or ability. I feel this is an achievement in its self and no mean feat, so I'm quite happy that Anton has this niche because other wise i fear his dancing ability alone would not see him through, now that the competition seems to have reached new levels compared to old series.
Originally Posted by yenston:
“You really have a problem with Lesley don't you? You have to remember that in the first series people were mainly only voting for the celeb, so for Lesley to come third meant that she must have been pretty well liked. She managed to see off Claire Sweeney, who I actually think was probably the best dancer out of all of them, but then she did have dance experience unlike everyone else.”
“You really have a problem with Lesley don't you? You have to remember that in the first series people were mainly only voting for the celeb, so for Lesley to come third meant that she must have been pretty well liked. She managed to see off Claire Sweeney, who I actually think was probably the best dancer out of all of them, but then she did have dance experience unlike everyone else.”
Yes I thought Claire was the best, but I was surprised she was asked to take part, because as you say she wasn't a beginner.
Originally Posted by TallyHo77:
“What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire.
snip, snip,snip
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...”
“What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire.
snip, snip,snip
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...”
You know, I am fed up with the idolisation of Anton. That he hasn't had a good dance partner etc.etc. He just isn't very good himself.
Sorry about the spelling. Iam doing my best as I am not English and I do not live in Britain.
I am glad you stopped rambling, cause the rest of your post was boring too.
Originally Posted by Birdie65:
“OK how about someone like Katherine Jenkins? Beautiful, young, charming, fabulous opera singer who far outclasses Lesley Garrett. Anton should be able to go places with her.”
“OK how about someone like Katherine Jenkins? Beautiful, young, charming, fabulous opera singer who far outclasses Lesley Garrett. Anton should be able to go places with her.”
I doubt if Katherine could fit SCD into her schedule
Originally Posted by TallyHo77:
“What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire than most of the other male dancers on SCD when it comes to the ballroom dances. I've had a think (and believe me I do know almost all of Astaire's films slightly too well) and I can't think of any Astaire performance that is what people on SCD call Latin. NB he danced to many Latin pieces of music and the first film where Astaire and Rogers dance together is called 'Flying Down to Rio', but he didn't do the camp (perhaps slightly naff?) steps that you get on SCD.
This is Fred and Ginger's first screen duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBt929GtdU - a bit stilted perhaps? However, it did lead to them starring together in a further eight films in the 1930s.
What Astaire could do is to do partner work (with Ginger Rogers for instance) and then break away and do some totally kick-arse tap, with incredibly complex syncopated beats (NOT the naff ISTD-syllabus tap step ball-changes that are the mainstay of British dance schools!) In fact these two clips (two halves of the same song) are quite reminiscent of SCD rehearsal and then performance footage
"Rehearsal": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXZkBIxso4
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...”
“What a mean (and badly spelled) little comment! I couldn't care less whether Fred or Anton was/is handsome, but actually Anton's dancing style is perhaps closer to Astaire than most of the other male dancers on SCD when it comes to the ballroom dances. I've had a think (and believe me I do know almost all of Astaire's films slightly too well) and I can't think of any Astaire performance that is what people on SCD call Latin. NB he danced to many Latin pieces of music and the first film where Astaire and Rogers dance together is called 'Flying Down to Rio', but he didn't do the camp (perhaps slightly naff?) steps that you get on SCD.
This is Fred and Ginger's first screen duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFBt929GtdU - a bit stilted perhaps? However, it did lead to them starring together in a further eight films in the 1930s.
What Astaire could do is to do partner work (with Ginger Rogers for instance) and then break away and do some totally kick-arse tap, with incredibly complex syncopated beats (NOT the naff ISTD-syllabus tap step ball-changes that are the mainstay of British dance schools!) In fact these two clips (two halves of the same song) are quite reminiscent of SCD rehearsal and then performance footage
"Rehearsal": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXZkBIxso4
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPgplMujzQ
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but don't take Astaire's name in vain, and give Anton a break too - he's arguably the Astaire of SCD...”
Thanks for this TallyHo.
I have to say I agree with those who have said that it is impossible to say who is going to be good before you see them dance. Who knew Kate would have trouble dancing or that Jan Ravens would struggle last series. Anton had a great partner in Patsy Palmer but she couldn't overcome her nerves and as such didn't live up to her potential.
However, I think they've all had their share of poorer partners. Erin hasn't had anyone who could win since Colin Jackson (who admittedly would probably have won if she didn't mess up the show dance - is she being punished!), Nicole Cutler has been in since series two and has never even come close (Darmuid Gavin and Nicholas Owen being her previous partners), Brendan's had to wait three series before he's been given someone who can even come close to winning again and Camilla was in a similar position as Anton up until this series when she lucked out with Gethin.
I like Anton but don't think he's been treated particularly badly and who knows who he'll get next series (I'm sure he'll be back). And besdies, he'll still be there and since he's so popular he'll be on every week no doubt as well as on ITT constantly!
However, I think they've all had their share of poorer partners. Erin hasn't had anyone who could win since Colin Jackson (who admittedly would probably have won if she didn't mess up the show dance - is she being punished!), Nicole Cutler has been in since series two and has never even come close (Darmuid Gavin and Nicholas Owen being her previous partners), Brendan's had to wait three series before he's been given someone who can even come close to winning again and Camilla was in a similar position as Anton up until this series when she lucked out with Gethin.
I like Anton but don't think he's been treated particularly badly and who knows who he'll get next series (I'm sure he'll be back). And besdies, he'll still be there and since he's so popular he'll be on every week no doubt as well as on ITT constantly!
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“Now Im not Anton knocking - those who know me know I dont like him but havent posted much on Anton this year at all.
But in all honesty with Antons Latin skills it would be difficult for him to win the show no matter how good a partner he had - not being nasty it is just a fact”
“Now Im not Anton knocking - those who know me know I dont like him but havent posted much on Anton this year at all.
But in all honesty with Antons Latin skills it would be difficult for him to win the show no matter how good a partner he had - not being nasty it is just a fact”
I agree.
Anton's great telly, and he's clearly lovely to work with, but his Latin is limited. Look at this years' salsa (his, not Kate's), or last year's Jive - not exactly his finest hours. Being brutal about it, he's just not a good enough all-rounder to win in my opinion.
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“I agree.
Anton's great telly, and he's clearly lovely to work with, but his Latin is limited. Look at this years' salsa (his, not Kate's), or last year's Jive - not exactly his finest hours. Being brutal about it, he's just not a good enough all-rounder to win in my opinion.”
“I agree.
Anton's great telly, and he's clearly lovely to work with, but his Latin is limited. Look at this years' salsa (his, not Kate's), or last year's Jive - not exactly his finest hours. Being brutal about it, he's just not a good enough all-rounder to win in my opinion.”
agree with you DJ! this has always been my (humble!) opinion only of Anton - I always squirm (not in a good way! lol) when I watch him doing Latin of any kind. Ballroom is lovely but ............stick to that!
agree about him not being a good enough all rounder to win.
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