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I love Alesha, but come on...
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Cat123
25-11-2007
I know that. And she didn't when she was suposed to. And Anton's ability has nothing to do with it, I'm sure he can dance latin better than most of us!

I'm not having a go at Alesha, I'm bitching about the judges. But I still maintain Matt should have scored higher...
bendymixer
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by funkyfairy:
“Alesha was overmarked. Which could actually effect her, i mean look what happened to Emma last year when people thought she was overmarked.

It bugs me because i think Matt was ace, but i also though Letitia was amazing and that she got marked down!”

If we get picky then Matt and Flavia's routine didnt have enough footwork look at video of the dance he stood still for long spots and in others walked into position instead of dancing into position - if there had been more footwork would have got all 10's - basically everyone overmarked last night but leader board more or less right - Letitia had many many foot faults which the judges didnt pick up
Erinfan
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by funkyfairy:
“Alesha was overmarked. Which could actually effect her, i mean look what happened to Emma last year when people thought she was overmarked.

It bugs me because i think Matt was ace, but i also though Letitia was amazing and that she got marked down!”

I thought Letitia was overmarked. I didn't think she was good technically at all. As I said above, I thought Matt and Alesha were about equal. Both had strengths and slight weaknesses in their dances.

To be fair it is the first dance I feel it could be argued that Alesha was overmarked. I think she's deserved all of her other high marks. Also EVERYBODY was overmarked a little bit last night!
Erinfan
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“If we get picky then Matt and Flavia's routine didnt have enough footwork look at video of the dance he stood still for long spots and in others walked into position instead of dancing into position - if there had been more footwork would have got all 10's - basically everyone overmarked last night but leader board more or less right - Letitia had many many foot faults which the judges didnt pick up”

I agree completely!!!
flashgirl
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“No offence Erinfan but how can a routine look sloppy in places and still deserve 10's. It's not DWTS were watching. The routine should have been as breathtaking as Marks's AT or Colin's QS and in my opinion I don't think it did.

Alesha routine was great but I said people will go off her if they see high marks and think 'really for that?' and I think last night was a case in point. The routine deserved straight nines but no tens, neither did Matt deserve tens for his routine. I think the judges were saying this is who we want in the final regardless of public opinion. Not that I think public opinion would put either out the way they are dancing.

Gethin got 34 for his QS so if the judges has given Matt 35 and Alesha 36 the leaderboard would have look exactly the same, so why give the 10's?”

Because their dances were FAR better than Gethin's. I think that's the problem. Gethin and Camilla's dance was what I would call 'sweet'. There have been far far better quicksteps on the show over the years that have received lower marks.

And Mark made a couple of slight footwork errors in the AT last year as well. But his& Karen's chemistry was amazing and the dance blew people away, hence the tens. To expect a celeb to be techinically perfect in one week is nonsense, and personally all the nitpicking pee's me off. Yes, Alesha & Matt D were both overmarked but then so was EVERYONE!
Tissy
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Cat123:
“I know that. And she didn't when she was suposed to. And Anton's ability has nothing to do with it, I'm sure he can dance latin better than most of us!

I'm not having a go at Alesha, I'm bitching about the judges. But I still maintain Matt should have scored higher...”

So why the `I love Alesha ..but` thread header ?

Sorry but it`s hardly her fault the judges overmarked.
bendymixer
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Cat123:
“I know that. And she didn't when she was suposed to. And Anton's ability has nothing to do with it, I'm sure he can dance latin better than most of us!

I'm not having a go at Alesha, I'm bitching about the judges. But I still maintain Matt should have scored higher...”

Well leave Anton's ability alone have avoided for a couple of seasons Anton bashing (adjusts halo ) yes I do see your point Cat the judges overmarked everyone last night from the foot faults they didnt pick up on Letitia - to the lack of locking from Aleesha and the lack of footwork at times in Matt and Flavia's routine which would have been brilliant if more had been in frankly I would have given Matt and Alesha the same points
java17
25-11-2007
Think Alesha was totally overmarked, thank god for Craig he doesn't get carried away. The only dance that deserve such a high score before the final has been Mark Ramps AT. It was just beautiful and a really great moment on SCD.
goodnews
25-11-2007
It is not Alesha's fault if she is overmarked so people shouldn't hate her for that, but I do agree that the judge's overmarked others which resulted in her marks. But to be fair she and Matt were a cut above the rest.
Cat123
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“So why the `I love Alesha ..but` thread header ?

Sorry but it`s hardly her fault the judges overmarked.”

I know it's not her fault. And I do really like her. A thread header is a thread header, don't read into it that much!
flashgirl
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by funkyfairy:
“Alesha was overmarked. Which could actually effect her, i mean look what happened to Emma last year when people thought she was overmarked.”

Personally I think the situations with Alesha & Emma are quite different. Emma didn't work all that hard (it was obvious Darren was getting frustrated with her at times), didn't seem to care all that much about the show & a lot of people didn't warm to her. In hindsight, I'm sure her being in the early stages of pregnancy had a lot to do with it, as she generally seems a really sweet girl, but people didn't know that at the time and I think it put them off her. Alesha on the other hand is working her butt off, has a great friendship with Matthew and is loving every minute of the show. I think a lot more of the GBP will have warmed to her and be behind her.
beanbean
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Cat123:
“I'm not having a go at Alesha, I'm bitching about the judges. But I still maintain Matt should have scored higher...”

Well why start a thread saying she was overmarked?
You can't like her that much otherwise you would realise OTHERS were overmarked too!
Alesha was overmarked but she wasnt the only one.
To be honest i dont even take the judges marks seriously anymore i just base my vote on who I liked watching on the night and i think the majority of people do the same.
Kaos
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“she's been overmarked once - last night

undermarked for rumba, jive and salsa I think


there's been loads of overmarking this year - particularly for Gethin and Letitia”

Actually I feel differently about that... I personally think Gethin has been undermarked for some of his dances, and if John got a 10 for his Salsa then Geth should have got a 10 for his VW (though I know coming out first didn't help that night)...

As for Alesha, I don't think she's been undermarked at all... I laughed at whatever dance it was the night Geth did his VW and everyone said she was undermarked purely because she wasn't one of the people tied for top place and John and Gethin were ...
Claudia57
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“Well why start a thread saying she was overmarked?
You can't like her that much otherwise you would realise OTHERS were overmarked too!
Alesha was overmarked but she wasnt the only one.
To be honest i dont even take the judges marks seriously anymore i just base my vote on who I liked watching on the night and i think the majority of people do the same.”

But Alesha is overmarked EVERY time :yawn::sleep:
pasodabble
25-11-2007
If the issue was with the judges why not start a thread criticizing them? And why get so het up about it anyway? When John and Kelly got undeserved 10s most of us were happy to discuss it in pre-existing threads, and then move on to the following week's dance.

And the judges do not confer before awarding marks, so Len didn't know Arlene and Bruno were going to give 10s, for e.g. It felt like a 10 to him given his marks for the other dances, and whilst I don't agree, I can see why it happened (earlier overmarking) Strange that no-one has started threads about Matt, Gethin, Kenny and Letitia who were all overmarked, IMHO.

Originally Posted by goodnews:
“It is not Alesha's fault if she is overmarked so people shouldn't hate her for that, but I do agree that the judge's overmarked others which resulted in her marks. But to be fair she and Matt were a cut above the rest.”

Great first post, goodnews!
jill1812
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“Well why start a thread saying she was overmarked?
You can't like her that much otherwise you would realise OTHERS were overmarked too!
Alesha was overmarked but she wasnt the only one.
To be honest i dont even take the judges marks seriously anymore i just base my vote on who I liked watching on the night and i think the majority of people do the same.”

It still half of the overall score. Whether you take it seriously or not.
EmilyIRE
25-11-2007
Agree with what a lot of others have been saying - neither Matt and Alesha nor Flavia and Matt deserved 10s, but the judges have been overmarking ridiculously this series so that they end up with nowhere to go.

Letitia, Gethin, Kenny - all overmarked so then when Matt and Alesha were so much better the judges had very little wiggleroom, apart from Craig. It's happened all through the series to a certain extent - John's 10 for his salsa, Kelly's rumba marks. Len in particular doesn't seem to realise that any paddle lower than a 7 exists. Giving Kate and Kenny 6s and 7s for frankly dire dancing is laughable.
Lola 30
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“So why the `I love Alesha ..but` thread header ?

Sorry but it`s hardly her fault the judges overmarked.”

Bit different than last year, Emma got torn apart on here for this same overmarking, her character, appearance, career and everything was attacked, and I know she had dance experience but so has Alesha both popstars, it puzzles me why Emma was so hated now
jill1812
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“Actually I feel differently about that... I personally think Gethin has been undermarked for some of his dances, and if John got a 10 for his Salsa then Geth should have got a 10 for his VW (though I know coming out first didn't help that night)...

As for Alesha, I don't think she's been undermarked at all... I laughed at whatever dance it was the night Geth did his VW and everyone said she was undermarked purely because she wasn't one of the people tied for top place and John and Gethin were ...”

The only dance this series I think was undermarked was Gethin's VW, I was totally lost in it, when they broke hold i thought they had broken the rules because I still thought it was about halfway through, it was so beautiful I lost track of time. Gethin should have got a 10 for that routine, and should have been top of the leaderboard alone.
bendymixer
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
“I agree completely!!!”

Yep Erinfan we are seeing this series pretty much the same arent we
java17
25-11-2007
Don't really think ten's should be give unless it is exceptional dance with performance the whole package.
EmilyIRE
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Lola 30:
“Bit different than last year, Emma got torn apart on here for this same overmarking, her character, appearance, career and everything was attacked, and I know she had dance experience but so has Alesha both popstars, it puzzles me why Emma was so hated now”


Personally the difference was that Emma didn't really seem to give a crap. She came across that all she needed to do was show up, she didn't train as hard as the others, she wasn't doing complicated routines and she was overmarked a lot of weeks. I didn't like Emma's dances a lot of weeks, but when she did do a dance well, I would say that.

Alesha on the other hand is working her butt off in training, clearly loving it and trying to be the best she can. She's also not been overmarked, up until last night.
Tissy
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Lola 30:
“Bit different than last year, Emma got torn apart on here for this same overmarking, her character, appearance, career and everything was attacked, and I know she had dance experience but so has Alesha both popstars, it puzzles me why Emma was so hated now”

I`m in a brigade that believes that the judges shouldn`t give their scores, just comment on the routine.

Then again what on earth would fms have to argue about the following morning
java17
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by EmilyIRE:
“Personally the difference was that Emma didn't really seem to give a crap. She came across that all she needed to do was show up, she didn't train as hard as the others, she wasn't doing complicated routines and she was overmarked a lot of weeks. I didn't like Emma's dances a lot of weeks, but when she did do a dance well, I would say that.

Alesha on the other hand is working her butt off in training, clearly loving it and trying to be the best she can. She's also not been overmarked, up until last night.”

Both same I think great dancing but very underwhelming and overmarked. Think Emma did actually work hard.
Psychosis
25-11-2007
Originally Posted by Claudia57:
“But Alesha is overmarked EVERY time :yawn::sleep:”

I disagree. I think the only time she was overmarked was last night, and even then she HAD to be overmarked to get the correct position in the leaderboard - first. It's hardly her fault that they backed themselves into a corner by overmarking everyone who came before her.
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