iphone on payg? (sorry another iphone thread)

skreepers · 25-11-2007, 15:12

does anybody know if the iphone is on payg yet or will it be before christmas in the shops?? i really want one but im not willing to spend the £35 a moth for one!

does anyone have some helpful information?

thank you

Tumble weed · 25-11-2007, 15:26

Not officially but you can get it off eBay, be expected to pay around £500.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...phone+unlocked

bluechang · 25-11-2007, 16:32

if you are prepared to go to germany and can speak german, you should be able to pick up a sim free iphone for approx £715 and no contract attached. this is due to competition laws in germany (or something like that - vodafone complained that it was unfair that one network should have it, and now t-mobile have confirmed it is being sold sim free)

skreepers · 25-11-2007, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumble weed

Not officially but you can get it off eBay, be expected to pay around £500.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...phone+unlocked

so are all the iphones being sold on ebay all payg?

Ricardodaforce · 25-11-2007, 16:40

You will also be able to buy an unlocked one in France from next Thursday.

bluechang · 25-11-2007, 17:35

but havent apple been kind enough to set each handset to the native language of the country it is being sold at (does that make sense) ie you buy a handset in france, the only language you can get on the handset is french?

chocolate_boy · 25-11-2007, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by skreepers

so are all the iphones being sold on ebay all payg?

Yep if you put a PAYG SIM in them. Unlocked means just that, you can put any sim in it.

bluechang · 25-11-2007, 23:15

i thought there was something reported that some people have unlocked their handset, only for it to update via itunes, and for it to seize completely, rendering the handset useless (paperweight)

skreepers · 26-11-2007, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocolate_boy

Yep if you put a PAYG SIM in them. Unlocked means just that, you can put any sim in it.

will it work the same though as a normal iphone though? would it have full internet access and all the same working functions??

i have had a phone unlocked before and then not been able to play the games and lost all internet access!

sorry about all the auestions im just really considering buying one off ebay.

thanks

Lukeyboy · 26-11-2007, 23:25

http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15849 < follow these instructions. They will allow you to put any O2 SIM in the iPhone

coopermanyorks · 26-11-2007, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukeyboy

http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15849 < follow these instructions. They will allow you to put any O2 SIM in the iPhone

That looks dead easy , you do have a Mac don't you ?

Op ,just pay the £35 per month you tight wad , or else you'll be back on here when you Iphone is screwed up

Lukeyboy · 26-11-2007, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by coopermanyorks

That looks dead easy , you do have a Mac don't you ?

Yeah, I've got a Mac, and I'm thinking about getting myself an iPhone for Christmas, but I want to stay on pay-as-you-go, so I think that's what I'll be doing. I've downloaded the 1.1.1 firmware already just in case Apple take it down.

coopermanyorks · 27-11-2007, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukeyboy

Yeah, I've got a Mac, and I'm thinking about getting myself an iPhone for Christmas, but I want to stay on pay-as-you-go, so I think that's what I'll be doing. I've downloaded the 1.1.1 firmware already just in case Apple take it down.

Ok , post back when your iphones and expensive paperweight

chocolate_boy · 27-11-2007, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by coopermanyorks

Ok , post back when your iphones and expensive paperweight

There are very simple ways to roll back and unlock it again now, the bricking was sorted out about 3 months ago, do keep up

Besides anyone who does an upgrade even though it asks you twice if you're sure you want to do it, and warns you it will brick unlocked handsets is pretty much an idiot anyway, it's not like you can do it accidently!

Typhoid-X · 27-11-2007, 17:42

As the current bootloader & baseband hasn't been hacked - which is why there is no full unlock as yet: Pretty much anything you do is always recoverable.

I screwed up the 'unlock' of my phone twice, leaving me with a phone that wouldn't boot normally. On both occasions I just booted in recovery mode and restored 1.1.1 firmware in iTunes and started again - 3rd time was the charm: don't do the iphuc1.1.2 jailbreak over a USB hub, or at least a Dlink one; it kept going into suspend mode and screwing the flash.

coopermanyorks · 27-11-2007, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocolate_boy

There are very simple ways to roll back and unlock it again now, the bricking was sorted out about 3 months ago, do keep up

It may be sorted at the moment , I would bet a £1 to a penny they are well aware of the current situation and are actively working on a worakaround to close the unofficial unlock

Quote:

Besides anyone who does an upgrade even though it asks you twice if you're sure you want to do it, and warns you it will brick unlocked handsets is pretty much an idiot anyway, it's not like you can do it accidently!

Read this thread and see how wildy peoples knowledge of Iphones varies , we are not as well informed as you

Clickty Click me

chocolate_boy · 28-11-2007, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by coopermanyorks

It may be sorted at the moment , I would bet a £1 to a penny they are well aware of the current situation and are actively working on a worakaround to close the unofficial unlock

Read this thread and see how wildy peoples knowledge of Iphones varies , we are not as well informed as you

Clickty Click me

You don't have to be informed it POPS A MESSAGE ON THE SCREEN asking you twice if you're sure you want to update and brings an info box telling you it will brick unlocked phones, you don't need to be Einstein to figure it out.

Plus they won't be working on anything of the sort... This will all be irrelevant in the next month anyway, now that Apple have to sell the iPhone unlocked in France and Germany so you can bet future updates will have to support unlocked phones now, either that or the hacking dev team will find the part of the iphone which tells itunes its a legit unlocked phone.

Apple aren't gonna brick the unlocked phones bought on the continent, so this won't matter with the next update i'll wager.

tdenson · 28-11-2007, 17:08

I notice that the cost of an unlocked french phone has now been announced (Euro 635). Interesting that it is cheaper than an unlocked, no contract, N95 (Euro 829), given all the gainsayers in this forum carping on about how expensive the iPhone is.

Ricardodaforce · 28-11-2007, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdenson

I notice that the cost of an unlocked french phone has now been announced (Euro 635). Interesting that it is cheaper than an unlocked, no contract, N95 (Euro 829), given all the gainsayers in this forum carping on about how expensive the iPhone is.

N95 on Nokia.co.uk is £459, which equates to 643Euro (give or take 5 Euros depending on which site you use).

chocolate_boy · 28-11-2007, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

N95 on Nokia.co.uk is £459, which equates to 643Euro (give or take 5 Euros depending on which site you use).

Even so I can't see anyone choosing the N95 when you could have the iPhone for the same or slightly less!

Ricardodaforce · 28-11-2007, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocolate_boy

Even so I can't see anyone choosing the N95 when you could have the iPhone for the same or slightly less!

Well I am not going to be drawn into some silly argument with you. But in the world of consumer electronic pricing, the more sophisticated and feature-packed a product is, then the more it costs to buy. The fact that both are around the same price would infer that either one is grossly over-priced or one is strangely under-priced.

As for anyone choosing to buy an N95. Are you inferring that a million buyers in the UK alone are stupid and incapable of making good decisions?

chocolate_boy · 28-11-2007, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

As for anyone choosing to buy an N95. Are you inferring that a million buyers in the UK alone are stupid and incapable of making good decisions?

No they just probably couldn't afford an iPhone or bought it before it came out

Ricardodaforce · 28-11-2007, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocolate_boy

No they just probably couldn't afford an iPhone or bought it before it came out

That is a brilliant response. As always.

Last edited by Ricardodaforce : 28-11-2007 at 17:37. Reason: My initial reply was far too rude!

tdenson · 28-11-2007, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

N95 on Nokia.co.uk is £459, which equates to 643Euro (give or take 5 Euros depending on which site you use).

I was quoting a MacWorld article, probably got it wrong

chocolate_boy · 28-11-2007, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

That is a brilliant response. As always.

I preferred your original reply!

25-11-2007, 15:12	#1
skreepers Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,336	iphone on payg? (sorry another iphone thread) does anybody know if the iphone is on payg yet or will it be before christmas in the shops?? i really want one but im not willing to spend the £35 a moth for one! does anyone have some helpful information? thank you

25-11-2007, 15:26	#2
Tumble weed Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: England ~ UK (Ex NTL Area) Posts: 7,682	Not officially but you can get it off eBay, be expected to pay around £500. http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...phone+unlocked

25-11-2007, 16:32	#3
bluechang Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,836	if you are prepared to go to germany and can speak german, you should be able to pick up a sim free iphone for approx £715 and no contract attached. this is due to competition laws in germany (or something like that - vodafone complained that it was unfair that one network should have it, and now t-mobile have confirmed it is being sold sim free)

25-11-2007, 16:37	#4
skreepers Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,336	Quote: Originally Posted by Tumble weed Not officially but you can get it off eBay, be expected to pay around £500. http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...phone+unlocked so are all the iphones being sold on ebay all payg?

25-11-2007, 16:40	#5
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	You will also be able to buy an unlocked one in France from next Thursday.

25-11-2007, 17:35	#6
bluechang Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,836	but havent apple been kind enough to set each handset to the native language of the country it is being sold at (does that make sense) ie you buy a handset in france, the only language you can get on the handset is french?

25-11-2007, 20:46	#7
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by skreepers so are all the iphones being sold on ebay all payg? Yep if you put a PAYG SIM in them. Unlocked means just that, you can put any sim in it.

25-11-2007, 23:15	#8
bluechang Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,836	i thought there was something reported that some people have unlocked their handset, only for it to update via itunes, and for it to seize completely, rendering the handset useless (paperweight)

26-11-2007, 23:00	#9
skreepers Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,336	Quote: Originally Posted by chocolate_boy Yep if you put a PAYG SIM in them. Unlocked means just that, you can put any sim in it. will it work the same though as a normal iphone though? would it have full internet access and all the same working functions?? i have had a phone unlocked before and then not been able to play the games and lost all internet access! sorry about all the auestions im just really considering buying one off ebay. thanks

26-11-2007, 23:25	#10
Lukeyboy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,447	http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15849 < follow these instructions. They will allow you to put any O2 SIM in the iPhone

26-11-2007, 23:31	#11
coopermanyorks Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Gods Own County Posts: 20,678	Quote: Originally Posted by Lukeyboy http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15849 < follow these instructions. They will allow you to put any O2 SIM in the iPhone That looks dead easy , you do have a Mac don't you ? Op ,just pay the £35 per month you tight wad , or else you'll be back on here when you Iphone is screwed up

26-11-2007, 23:38	#12
Lukeyboy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,447	Quote: Originally Posted by coopermanyorks That looks dead easy , you do have a Mac don't you ? Yeah, I've got a Mac, and I'm thinking about getting myself an iPhone for Christmas, but I want to stay on pay-as-you-go, so I think that's what I'll be doing. I've downloaded the 1.1.1 firmware already just in case Apple take it down.

27-11-2007, 17:16	#13
coopermanyorks Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Gods Own County Posts: 20,678	Quote: Originally Posted by Lukeyboy Yeah, I've got a Mac, and I'm thinking about getting myself an iPhone for Christmas, but I want to stay on pay-as-you-go, so I think that's what I'll be doing. I've downloaded the 1.1.1 firmware already just in case Apple take it down. Ok , post back when your iphones and expensive paperweight

27-11-2007, 17:27	#14
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by coopermanyorks Ok , post back when your iphones and expensive paperweight There are very simple ways to roll back and unlock it again now, the bricking was sorted out about 3 months ago, do keep up Besides anyone who does an upgrade even though it asks you twice if you're sure you want to do it, and warns you it will brick unlocked handsets is pretty much an idiot anyway, it's not like you can do it accidently!

27-11-2007, 17:42	#15
Typhoid-X Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dover Posts: 634	As the current bootloader & baseband hasn't been hacked - which is why there is no full unlock as yet: Pretty much anything you do is always recoverable. I screwed up the 'unlock' of my phone twice, leaving me with a phone that wouldn't boot normally. On both occasions I just booted in recovery mode and restored 1.1.1 firmware in iTunes and started again - 3rd time was the charm: don't do the iphuc1.1.2 jailbreak over a USB hub, or at least a Dlink one; it kept going into suspend mode and screwing the flash.

27-11-2007, 19:52	#16
coopermanyorks Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In Gods Own County Posts: 20,678	Quote: Originally Posted by chocolate_boy There are very simple ways to roll back and unlock it again now, the bricking was sorted out about 3 months ago, do keep up It may be sorted at the moment , I would bet a £1 to a penny they are well aware of the current situation and are actively working on a worakaround to close the unofficial unlock Quote: Besides anyone who does an upgrade even though it asks you twice if you're sure you want to do it, and warns you it will brick unlocked handsets is pretty much an idiot anyway, it's not like you can do it accidently! Read this thread and see how wildy peoples knowledge of Iphones varies , we are not as well informed as you Clickty Click me

28-11-2007, 16:30	#17
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by coopermanyorks It may be sorted at the moment , I would bet a £1 to a penny they are well aware of the current situation and are actively working on a worakaround to close the unofficial unlock Read this thread and see how wildy peoples knowledge of Iphones varies , we are not as well informed as you Clickty Click me You don't have to be informed it POPS A MESSAGE ON THE SCREEN asking you twice if you're sure you want to update and brings an info box telling you it will brick unlocked phones, you don't need to be Einstein to figure it out. Plus they won't be working on anything of the sort... This will all be irrelevant in the next month anyway, now that Apple have to sell the iPhone unlocked in France and Germany so you can bet future updates will have to support unlocked phones now, either that or the hacking dev team will find the part of the iphone which tells itunes its a legit unlocked phone. Apple aren't gonna brick the unlocked phones bought on the continent, so this won't matter with the next update i'll wager.

28-11-2007, 17:08	#18
tdenson Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,214	I notice that the cost of an unlocked french phone has now been announced (Euro 635). Interesting that it is cheaper than an unlocked, no contract, N95 (Euro 829), given all the gainsayers in this forum carping on about how expensive the iPhone is.

28-11-2007, 17:25	#19
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by tdenson I notice that the cost of an unlocked french phone has now been announced (Euro 635). Interesting that it is cheaper than an unlocked, no contract, N95 (Euro 829), given all the gainsayers in this forum carping on about how expensive the iPhone is. N95 on Nokia.co.uk is £459, which equates to 643Euro (give or take 5 Euros depending on which site you use).

28-11-2007, 17:27	#20
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce N95 on Nokia.co.uk is £459, which equates to 643Euro (give or take 5 Euros depending on which site you use). Even so I can't see anyone choosing the N95 when you could have the iPhone for the same or slightly less!

28-11-2007, 17:31	#21
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by chocolate_boy Even so I can't see anyone choosing the N95 when you could have the iPhone for the same or slightly less! Well I am not going to be drawn into some silly argument with you. But in the world of consumer electronic pricing, the more sophisticated and feature-packed a product is, then the more it costs to buy. The fact that both are around the same price would infer that either one is grossly over-priced or one is strangely under-priced. As for anyone choosing to buy an N95. Are you inferring that a million buyers in the UK alone are stupid and incapable of making good decisions?

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iphone on payg? (sorry another iphone thread)

28-11-2007, 17:32	#22
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce As for anyone choosing to buy an N95. Are you inferring that a million buyers in the UK alone are stupid and incapable of making good decisions? No they just probably couldn't afford an iPhone or bought it before it came out

28-11-2007, 17:33	#23
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by chocolate_boy No they just probably couldn't afford an iPhone or bought it before it came out That is a brilliant response. As always. Last edited by Ricardodaforce : 28-11-2007 at 17:37. Reason: My initial reply was far too rude!

28-11-2007, 17:58	#24
tdenson Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,214	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce N95 on Nokia.co.uk is £459, which equates to 643Euro (give or take 5 Euros depending on which site you use). I was quoting a MacWorld article, probably got it wrong

28-11-2007, 17:59	#25
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce That is a brilliant response. As always. I preferred your original reply!