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Old 28-11-2007, 23:13
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I'm almost scared to start this thread because I know I'm gonna get jumped on and condemned from the offset but PLEEEASE someone tell me that not everyone on DS is a fan of Rhydian

Don't get me wrong I've got nothing against the guy, he's a good singer and he seems like a real gentleman but the way he is painted on this forum is as if he can do no wrong - he is practically worshipped and I really think we need some balance here...

I think we need a thread where we can post some 'not so appreciative' posts about Rhydian where we view him without the halo and the rose-tinted spectacles:

You see as I posted in a different thread - Rhydian is likely to win due to lack of adequate competition... but I doubt I'll care much if he doesn't though, this year's XF has been dire overall IMO... I'm not a "Rhydian-hater" but I'm surprised that there are no negative comments made about him - He has a great voice but I personally don't think he has the versatility to make a successful recording career - his attempts to try something different (i.e. Disco disaster - Go West, and the Pink song) were both disappointing and he doesn't add that little bit extra, ad-libbing or power notes that would make the songs stand out...

Basically he sings good versions of songs but that's as far as it goes, there aren't any stand-out marks that make the song 'Rhydian's Only'.

If you disagree, give me examples of him ad-libbing in any of the songs he has performed.

That's all I have to say
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:14
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there are a few people who dont like him, there are two that really really dont like him.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:15
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Have to agree with you. There are a lot of Leona fans on here but an equal amount of non-fans which is why we clash all the time but there seems to be a balance, to me anyway.

There is an overwhelming amount of Rhydian fans on here with just a small amount who aren't that keen really, myself included.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:17
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What upsets me more than anything is the need to jump on people and get them banned should they something remotely negative about someone that an OP likes. I've found that often in here and had several discussions about it. It's quite sad really, it's an opinion forum, can it not remain that way?
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:19
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why not start a critical thread with rhydian's name in the thread title and see what happens...

ps. good luck
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:21
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thms, they dare'dnt lol
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:24
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I don't like Rhydian.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:29
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I don't like Rhydian.
fairy nuff thankyou for a non emotive opinion
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:32
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I like him well enough. But I think that there are many things that could be said in criticism....they don't get aired often (nothing to do with the 'arrogant' irrelevance).

It's strange, I've never seen anything like it on DS in terms of the XF/PI.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:32
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I do think the hype about him is slightly OTT. It's extremely off putting.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:33
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I like him well enough. But I think that there are many things that could be said in criticism....they don't get aired often (nothing to do with the 'arrogant' irrelevance).

It's strange, I've never seen anything like it on DS in terms of the XF/PI.
Same. When it looked like Leona was definitely gonna win last year and all the judges were bigging her up, there was such a backlash. But now it's the same with Rhydian, everyone just seems to accept it. Veeeery strange lol.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:38
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Of course not everyone on DS likes Rhydian, I read stuff about him everyday on here that backs that up, just like I read non-positive stuff about the other contestants.

Why suggest just starting a thread for people to air their dislike for Rhydian, why not start a separate thread for non-positive posts about each of the other contestants as well
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:41
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Same. When it looked like Leona was definitely gonna win last year and all the judges were bigging her up, there was such a backlash. But now it's the same with Rhydian, everyone just seems to accept it. Veeeery strange lol.


For someone who professes to be 'indifferent' (you don't hate him, you don't love him) to Rhydian, you don't half talk about him a lot. Why is that? I am genuinely interested.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:41
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Why is it so strange that people like Rhydian. Maybe the majority like him because he is the best person to win? I don't see why we have to have a balanced view .....why should I like someone else because I like Rhydian as well? I never try and persuade anyone to like him .....it is your choice after all....and personally i think the hype this time is justified.

The problem with leona was it was so contrived that show for leona to win, the public don't like being manipulated and thats what it was, the same is happening this year with Hope, and the subsequent backlash.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:42
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Why suggest just starting a thread for people to air their dislike for Rhydian, why not start a separate thread for non-positive posts about each of the other contestants as well
In fairness, diamond.....there have been so many of those already.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:43
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I do think the hype about him is slightly OTT. It's extremely off putting.

major word.

i like rhydian, then i come on here & im like whattttt, he isnt that great.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:43
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Same. When it looked like Leona was definitely gonna win last year and all the judges were bigging her up, there was such a backlash. But now it's the same with Rhydian, everyone just seems to accept it. Veeeery strange lol.
What was the level of competition like last year? How good were the others? (Those aren't leading questions, I only started watching this year!). Was Leona as far ahead as Rhydian seems to be or did some of it appear to be undeserved praise?
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:44
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For someone who professes to be 'indifferent' (you don't hate him, you don't love him) to Rhydian, you don't half talk about him a lot. Why is that? I am genuinely interested.
Because when I'm in the XF forum, he seems to be the main thing discussed this year and so I just give my opinion too to get involved. He is the main thing people are talking about at the moment.

Surely you of all people understand discussing someone heavily who you aren't particularly a fan of?
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:45
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In fairness, diamond.....there have been so many of those already.

Yes there have been negative threads started about the other contestants, but Rhydian has had his fair share as well, including one about who wants to thump him

The OP seems to be wanting a specific thread set up specifically to post negative things about Rhydian .... which is fine be me, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but why suggest just an anti-Rhydian one, set one up for all the others too.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:46
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What was the level of competition like last year? How good were the others? (Those aren't leading questions, I only started watching this year!). Was Leona as far ahead as Rhydian seems to be or did some of it appear to be undeserved praise?
Well it's all subjective but to many, Leona was lightyears ahead of the others talentwise, marketabilitywise, star-qualitywise and it's proven now as none of the other contestants from last year have really had much success other than their rushed albums off the back of the show. Ray and Ben rushed them, had minor success and now been dropped. (Well, Ben might still have a deal but he's disappeared.)
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:46
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Because when I'm in the XF forum, he seems to be the main thing discussed this year and so I just give my opinion too to get involved. He is the main thing people are talking about at the moment.

Surely you of all people understand discussing someone heavily who you aren't particularly a fan of?
Me personally though this post wasn't directed at me.. I do
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:47
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I'm almost scared to start this thread because I know I'm gonna get jumped on and condemned from the offset but PLEEEASE someone tell me that not everyone on DS is a fan of Rhydian

Don't get me wrong I've got nothing against the guy, he's a good singer and he seems like a real gentleman but the way he is painted on this forum is as if he can do no wrong - he is practically worshipped and I really think we need some balance here...

I think we need a thread where we can post some 'not so appreciative' posts about Rhydian where we view him without the halo and the rose-tinted spectacles:

You see as I posted in a different thread - Rhydian is likely to win due to lack of adequate competition... but I doubt I'll care much if he doesn't though, this year's XF has been dire overall IMO... I'm not a "Rhydian-hater" but I'm surprised that there are no negative comments made about him - He has a great voice but I personally don't think he has the versatility to make a successful recording career - his attempts to try something different (i.e. Disco disaster - Go West, and the Pink song) were both disappointing and he doesn't add that little bit extra, ad-libbing or power notes that would make the songs stand out...

Basically he sings good versions of songs but that's as far as it goes, there aren't any stand-out marks that make the song 'Rhydian's Only'.

If you disagree, give me examples of him ad-libbing in any of the songs he has performed.

That's all I have to say

I've seen your username before. I remember reading one of your posts somewhere...

What was it?
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:47
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The problem with leona was it was so contrived that show for leona to win, the public don't like being manipulated and thats what it was, the same is happening this year with Hope, and the subsequent backlash.
I don't see how it was anymore contrived with Leona than it is with Rhydian this year. He is getting fantastic comments every week, we are being told he is world-class, heck even Simon is saying that he'd be a "great winner for the show". They're practically handing it to him on a plate.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:48
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It IS completely possible to like and dislike aspects of a singer.

I love Rhydian camp - that's novel and new and a good laugh. The sci-fi bad guy look really works here, it doesn't IMO when Rhyd is doing 'serious'.

I'm disinterested in his serious mode - I cannot connect with Rhydian emotionally. You probably can...fine, great...but not everyone else can.
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Old 28-11-2007, 23:48
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Well it's all subjective but to many, Leona was lightyears ahead of the others talentwise, marketabilitywise, star-qualitywise and it's proven now as none of the other contestants from last year have really had much success other than their rushed albums off the back of the show. Ray and Ben rushed them, had minor success and now been dropped. (Well, Ben might still have a deal but he's disappeared.)
I see, thanks.

So why was there a backlash against her on here then if she was the best in the competition?
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