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Marking The Judges out of 10, lets av a go
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Socha
02-12-2007
Originally Posted by olivej:
“Craig - 8 - the only one who talks any sense whatsoever and his scores represent what he has just said

Arlene - 6 - far to eager to get her cliche remarks across, far too gushy when she fancies a male celeb

Bruno - 5 - is seriously on something tho not sure what, lets his heart rule his voting

Len - 5 - something is wrong with Mr Goodman, he has completely lost the plot, over compensates with his scores when his fellows judges score correctly and can be rude”


Actually, I agree with olivej as well
grockleprincess
02-12-2007
Craig - 9/10 Basing it on this series alone. Previous years he has been far too harsh (bad relationship?!)

Len - 7/10 Potential to be a decent if over generous. (Hoping he will return back to normal now DWTS has finished)

Arlene - 5/10 Embarassingly salivating over the fit male celebs, talks in idiotic soundbites, but in lucid moments can offer good advice.

Bruno - 4/10 Has the tendancy to lose his head and all reason!! Can be quite entertaining.
MaryS
02-12-2007
Craig 9 The one who knows what he's talking about & scores accordingly
Arlene 7 Abit too excitable at times,but mostly good
Bruno 6 Same as above & also abit of fun at times
Len 2 Sorry but think he needs to retire
hiawatha
02-12-2007
Must say I agree with most on here.

Craig, 9/10 tries to be honest.
Arlene, 7/10 bit scatterbrained
Bruno, 5/10 too theatrical
Len, 3/10, ludicrous marking.

I only wish the judges would look in on this thread and see what some people think of them ( Len thinks he's a star )
Faxy Fowler
03-12-2007
Craig 9/10 Normally a good balance between being fair and constructive, on occasion a tad harsh with marking but always sees room for improvement which is good.

Arlene 6/10 Too many soundbites but generally pretty good and fair, loses marks for some catty comments.

Bruno 1/10 Cretin. Seems to mark the same as Len and babbles incoherently whoever the dancer.

Len -1/10 Doughnut. Used to be my favourite of the four but now seems to think he's the star of the show, frequently rude to contestants and dancers, interrupts other judges, at times just a dirty old man, seems to only want to get audience applause for himself, overly critical of better dancers and too much praise and high marking of deadweights, seems to only have 7, 8, 9 and 10 in his locker.
Spinaker5
03-12-2007
Craig 9/10 By far the fairest of the judges. The only reason he doesn't get a perfect 10 is that he isn't always on the ball with technicalities.
Arlene 7/10 Still has not completely lost the plot on occasion. Gets too carried away with her rehearsed alliterations.
Bruno 4/10 Too excitable and DWTS has ruined him for a UK audience.
Len 2/10 Shows on the odd occasion that he still knows how to do it but turns a blind eye to technicalities if he likes the dancer. DWTS has had an even worse effect on Len than Bruno. Both score far too high.
Hellywelly
03-12-2007
Originally Posted by CaptainSensible:
“Craig - 9 - usually consistent and often fair; he is sometimes a bit harsh or over-generous with marks, but he is the only judge I respect at the moment (still hasn't given out a 10 during SCD 2007).

Arlene - 7 - apart from her usually consistent marking (somewhere inbetween Craig and the others), she is a pain in the arse (need to stop being rude and drop the pre-fabricated comments).

Bruno - 5 - often over-generous with marks, but is often entertaining. He's alright, if a bit irrelevant.

Len - 3 - has completely lost it this series. I can't stand him. Twit.”

Agree, although you're a bit generous with Len IMO. Also, Arlene needs to stop screeching, although it's something she seems to do in response to Len when he starts to shout over her, so I'll let her off with that.
Chilli Dragon
03-12-2007
Arlene - 6/10 = Occasionally says some good points (footwork, expression etc) but ruins it with personal remarks and crappy rehearsed quips.

Len - 4/10 = Overmarks when not neccessary, but also gets grumpy, snaps at people, is rude. Does notice footwork but marks inconsistently on it.

Bruno - 2/10 = Pointless. Has no idea about dancing IMO despite his background. A Wind-up doll could replace Bruno and no one would notice.

Craig - 8/10 = Hasn't devalued the 10 paddle yet, although sometimes overlooks important things like the heel leads. Can be too harsh (John and Kenny given a 4 for example) but generally good.
ejak
03-12-2007
Craig=9 usually spot on with the remarks, has learned to curb his acerbic comments to the lame ducks. Awarded him an extra point for most improved judge of the series.

Arlene=7 underneath all the cringe worthy alliteration is generally a good grasp of the performance but can sometimes be too biased.

Bruno=5 sometimes through all the stupid OTT behavior he talks some sense, but his penchant for theatrical displays loses him credibility.

Len=4 I find his erratic marking, differing criteria for the dancers and his rudeness to his fellow judges all make for the most untrustworthy judge on the panel. The only reason he got 4 points from me is his ability to make the bad dancers feel like they are improving, are not totally useless, and his insight into the technical side of the dances i have just watched.
The_abbott
03-12-2007
The judges scores are in:

Craig Revell-Horwood - 9
Arlene Phillips - biased to her favourites 7
Len Goodman - 1
Bruno Trolinoni - 4

Sick of Len getting the cheers and Craig getting the boos.
Hellywelly
03-12-2007
Originally Posted by The_abbott:
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Sick of Len getting the cheers and Craig getting the boos.”

Me too - he's the judge that gets it right and yet because he doesn't overscore he is treated like the Panto villain.

I have a fantasy where I am in the audience and when everyone else boos Craig I cheer and when everyone cheers Len I boo.

Missy Moo
03-12-2007
Originally Posted by FUN123:
“Craig - 9
Tell it like it is. if you actuallylisten to him he has valid points and yes the fact that he is actually smilling is amazing however sometimes a little bit of constructve criticism wouldn't go amiss.

Arlene - 2
Uses catty comments, is often sarcastic and pulls annoying faces especially if she disagrees with a judge. Is too occupied with the male species to be unbiased sometimes. her request for perfection from an unproffessional is laughable.

Len - 8
Often fair, makes contestants feel at ease and is kind to them if they are not doing so well. Can sometimes be moody but is generally light hearted and good entertainment when arguing with the judges.

Bruno - 5
When he is over excited he is pure comedy but overall like Arlene he is biased and uses so many different phrases with such so little useful content that makes me want to turn the volume down.”

I'll second all of the above!
colf
03-12-2007
Craig 9 - tough but right on the money and makes sense

Len 8 - makes sense to me- obviously looking at different things to Craig. Marks too high but relative scores correct.

Arlene - 5 too inconsistent. Comments bear no resemblenceto her marks. Can crit then mark high or praise and mark down.

Bruno - 2 - hopeless. Doesnt judge at all.
josephinejo
03-12-2007
Craig, 9, good marking generally, though sometimes a bit too tough.
Arlene, 8, cant abide her stupid alliterations and her marking favors her favorites.
Len, 6, been over in the states too much and tries to bring that pantomime over here, It doesn't work. His marking has odd moments of weird.
Bruno,4 makes me laugh but I dont rely on anything he says or his marking either.
Spinaker5
03-12-2007
Originally Posted by FUN123:
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Len - 8
Often fair, makes contestants feel at ease and is kind to them if they are not doing so well. Can sometimes be moody but is generally light hearted and good entertainment when arguing with the judges.
”

We can't be watching the same person. All I can say is that you can't have had to listen to him have a go at someone you are supporting. Rude and belligerent when arguing with the other judges. he is also becoming increasingly smug.
nancy1975
03-12-2007
9/10 Craig. He could be rather nasty on previous series but on this one has most certainly been kind and has usually positive things to say to balance any negative comments. Marking the most consistent, and reflective of the dance. Also respectful of contestants and to Bruce.

5/10 Arlene. Would have been 7/10 but for some really nasty comments to Ola and Kelly which have nothing to do with dancing. Am disappointed as in fact last series I thought she was about the best of the judges. Too fond of inane scripted alliteration and should just stick to the point. Also too demanding....perfection isn't always achieved even by a professional. Makes good points about performance amid the dross. If however she can't curb tongue to people she should shut up.

4/10 Bruno. Rather irrelevant as knows very little technically and as Craig does the choreography angle and Arlene the performance is somewhat of a spare part. Marking too much like Len's and obviously influenced and too biased. He does though come across as kind and supportive of people who try their best.

3/10 Len. Don't know where to start. Overmarks favourites and undermarks non favourites. Unnecessarily rude to other judges and to contestants and thinks the only worthy point of view is his. Should pack it in.
indigomoon
03-12-2007
Latest results;

Craig
1st with 314 points ( we really seem to love him this year)

Arlene
2nd with 218 points ( we don't like acidity but seem to respect her expertise)

Bruno
3rd with167 points ( nice but adds little seems to be consensus)

Len
4th with 138 points ( most think he's lost the plot with rudeness and absurd marking )
Faxy Fowler
03-12-2007
Originally Posted by indigomoon:
“Len
4th with 138 points ( most think he's lost the plot with rudeness and absurd marking )”

Does this include my minus 1 mark for Len?
soulmate61
08-12-2007
Your updates please, on a night of crisis.
seanvice
08-12-2007
Craig - 8
Arlene - 7
Bruno - 4
Len - 10


Oh no wait, for some reason 10 and Len have got stuck in my head, how could that have happened?????

LEN - 2
cazzbar
08-12-2007
Craig - 10 - Mr Fairness himself.

Arlene - 8 - can be swayed by emotion but often fair.

Bruno - 5 - can often be swayed by emotion.

Len - 2 - he tries - yes he's very trying.
Hellywelly
08-12-2007
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Your updates please, on a night of crisis.”

I gave Len 1 previously, but now feel he was grossly overmarked.
cosmic dancer
08-12-2007
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Bruno - 0 - Don't see much of a point in him.”

*lol* I don't see much of a point in any of them, especially in their commentary, so I usually fast-forward it. I can barely stand seeing them give their marks. But Bruno is probably the worst indeed, his behaviour is so exaggerated.
I can't believe what high marks Craig is receiving here. Though he seems to have improved, I still could not say I agree with him.
louise81
08-12-2007
Craig - 9 - tough but mostly fair
Arlene - 7 - inconsistent, bordered on hypocritical at times
Len - 8 - lost the plot a bit this year
Bruno - 7 - ditto
**Lady..Jater**
08-12-2007
Right, here we go..

Craig [8] He is the one who talks most sense and tells the truth. But sometimes he is a little harsh with his scoring.
Arlene [8] She is normally right on the mark. She isn't harsh with the scoring and isn't too generous. And plus she is picked on because she is the woman.
Len [4] In the earlier series', he seemed the fairest and most geniune but now we're in the 5th series and most viewers can tell what's good and what's not so we don't need him defending a bad dance. And counting doesn't start from 7.
Bruno [3] Utter rubbish comes from his mouth. Sits there and copies Len. Afraid to make a judgment of his own.

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