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Lost practically all interest in SCD since Kelly and Brendan left.
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IvanIV
05-12-2007
Did Brendan ever make it near the final? I'd think he's ego would get in the way, he makes it all about himself and his antics, never mind the partners, never mind the rules So I won't miss him, actually.
Cat123
05-12-2007
Well, he won it Does that count?! Apart form that I don't think he's got past week 5 before this series.
Agent Krycek
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Cat123:
“I've realised that I'm not very bothered at all over who wins, unlike previous years, so I'm just enjoying the show for the dancing. Of the 4 couples left, I really like 3 of them and couldn't honestly chose who I want to win, they all deserve it.”

Ditto, for once I've not had a firm favourite (apart from a fondness for Kenny ) and it's been lovely to watch the show in a relaxed frame of mind, especially after last year's phone voting frenzy probably why waiting 24 hours for the result hasn't bothered me much either (waiting 24 hours to find out if Mark had got through would have probably killed me )
Kaos
05-12-2007
I miss Brendan and Kelly... I haven't lost interest because I liked Gethin anyway, but I know how you feel... If Gethin wasn't there I would be just like you...

As for Kelly and Brendan fans now voting for Gethin, I don't think its down to spiting Alesha I really do think its because most of us Brendan fans love Camilla and its natural for us to kind of swing our votes towards Camilla because of the bond between her and Brendan... I don't think it has anything to do with being anti-Alesha, Gethins dances don't gel with everyone, but they do with others, same goes for Alesha, and I think its good that Alesha has some competition in the fav poll...
Cat123
05-12-2007
In series 1 I wasn't that bothered, I don't think I even watched all the shows, and in the final I wanted Natasha to win only because Chris was so aweful. In S2 I really liked Aled & Lilia but it was obvious from the start that Jill would probably win. In S3 I supported Darren & Lilia but not obsessively. Last year I really really wanted Matt & Lilia to win, but half the reason for that was that I didn't like Mark & Karen all that much.

I watch the show mostly for the pros, and I love Matthew, Flavia and Camilla a lot! So whichever one of them wins I'll be happy
starborn8
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by bandicoot:
“There seems to be a bit of Alesha bashing going on in this thread.

Let's get one thing straight: Kelly never posed a serious threat to Alesha's chances of winning.

I liked Kelly, thought she was a great dancer, and would have loved her to reach the final, but I never believed she had a hope in hell of winning. She was very unpopular with the public and had been in the dance off .

Alesha's chances of winning have actually decreased now kelly's gone. Gethin and Alesha are neck and neck on the favourites poll and if they both reach the final I think Gethin will have the edge because male celebs are more likely to win (even Alesha knows it).

It's very strange that some fans of such an exciting partnership as Kelly and Brendan's are now praising bland Gethin to the hilt. I think they're still bitter and I think a lot of them are just voting for him on the DS poll just to spite Alesha.

Last saturday's show was a bit flat but not just because K+B weren't there, but because a few of the celebs and pros were unwell, and some of the celebs let the pressure of expectation get to them. I've no doubt that this saturday's show will be entertaining and exciting, especially because from here on in anything could happen.

It's only natural that once your faves have gone that the show doesn't seem the same, but it would be boring if everyone started threads whining and expecting to people to care just because their faves were out and they weren't enjoying the show anymore”

Kelly could have just missed the final, made the final or even won it. All outcomes were possible with K+B and that was part of what made them exciting to watch. She had amazing potential. As other have pointed out, no one can predict the public vote for anyone this year for the final.

What Alesha bashing? I haven't read anything that could be termed as nasty towards Alesha. In fact fans of other couples are often complimentary towards Alesha abnd acknowledge her talent. But taste is very personal and no competitor, no matter how talented and nice a person will be everyones favourite to win SCD. I don't think its wrong to go onto threads and state that you would rather Gethin or Matt etc win than Alesha. I'm a K+B supporter but thought Alesha was great at the beginning and then my interest waned. If people post similar opinions, I don't class that as Alesha bashing, just stating their POV.

I don't think people are voting tactically for Gethin against Alesha. Based on him never being on the bottom 2, I think he has a loyal fanbase that has increased with his weekly improvement? People seem more likely to vote for the couple who still most intersts them or are suddenly vowed by than spend money voting tactically for one couple against another.Mayve they do? Sounds bizzare to me unless its on a subconscious level.
Last edited by starborn8 : 05-12-2007 at 13:39
Puffle
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Cat123:
“Well, he won it Does that count?! Apart form that I don't think he's got past week 5 before this series.”

He got to week 8 last year with Claire King
Puffle
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by starborn8:
“Kelly could have just missed the final, made the final or even won it. All outcomes were possible with K+B and that was part of what made them exciting to watch. She had amazing potential. As other have pointed out, no one can predict the public vote for anyone this year for the final.

What Alesha bashing? I haven't read anything that could be termed as nasty towards Alesha. In fact fans of other couples are often complimentary towards Alesha abnd acknowledge her talent. But taste is very personal and no competitor, no matter how talented and nice a person will be everyones favourite to win SCD. I don't think its wrong to go onto threads and state that you would rather Gethin or Matt etc win than Alesha. I'm a K+B supporter but thought Alesha was great at the beginning and then my interest waned. If people post similar opinions, I don't class that as Alesha bashing, just stating their POV.

I don't think people are voting tactically for Gethin against Alesha. Based on him never being on the bottom 2, I think he has a loyal fanbase that has increased with his weekly improvement? People seem more likely to vote for the couple who still most intersts them or are suddenly vowed by than spend money voting tactically for one couple against another.Mayve they do? Sounds bizzare to me unless its on a subconscious level.”

Excellent post starborn8 - well said!
sarah-flute
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by ellieb123:
“For that reason alone, if/when Alesha and Matthew get knocked out, although I'll be gutted, I will still watch the rest of the show- because I'd hate to miss something that could be magical.... (hope that makes sense )”

Makes sense to me (be afraid, be very afraid!) much as I've always had my favourites, only the really dire couples aren't fun to watch, and much as I want my faves to reach the final, whoever reaches it it's potentially a good show so I shall be watching.

Originally Posted by notsolonely153:
“In some ways it's easier to watch & just to enjoy the good dancing once your favourite has been knocked out. I think it possibly allows you to actually appreciate the other couples dancing more and find magic in those.”

I think you're right - I have to say watching the show live when I have a favourite is just tooooo stressful, stupidly - I was actually pretty cross with myself when I ended up with a favourite AGAIN this year, was hoping for a stress free competition.......
swnymor1963
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by bandicoot:
“There seems to be a bit of Alesha bashing going on in this thread.
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No one has bashed Alesha in this thread......and I for one, never would.Posters are just expressing their feelings about the withdrawal of Kelly and the show now having that feeling of inevitability.It is now clear, that come what may, Alesha will be in the final....and deservedly so IMO......but love or loath them the one thing that K+B were never.......was predictable....and that unpredictability gave the show a bit of drama and edgyness; that IMO was lacking on Saturday.
Dollystanford
05-12-2007
I lost all interest last year when L&V went out, if K&B are your favourites then I'm sure it's the same!

K&B weren't my favourites but I agree their unpredictability was exciting - very frustrating for their fans I should imagine!

I genuinely don't believe she would have made the final purely because of the way people vote on these things - with Matt, Gethin and Alesha all in the running I don't think she would have had a chance. Being in the bottom two is a big deal - if she was top of the public vote she wouldn't have been there, look at Kenny. Their problem was that they completely polarised opinion - nothing to do with their dancing, which was great

just my opinion of course, but I knew Emma wouldn't do it last year and Zoe the year before that

it's why I'm so worried about Alesha!! The trend for the last two years has been for males, good or bad, to get through (sorry, I really didn't enjoy Matt or Darren's dancing AT ALL)
swnymor1963
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“I lost all interest last year when L&V went out, if K&B are your favourites then I'm sure it's the same!

K&B weren't my favourites but I agree their unpredictability was exciting - very frustrating for their fans I should imagine!

I genuinely don't believe she would have made the final purely because of the way people vote on these things - with Matt, Gethin and Alesha all in the running I don't think she would have had a chance. Being in the bottom two is a big deal - if she was top of the public vote she wouldn't have been there, look at Kenny. Their problem was that they completely polarised opinion - nothing to do with their dancing, which was great

just my opinion of course, but I knew Emma wouldn't do it last year and Zoe the year before that

it's why I'm so worried about Alesha!! The trend for the last two years has been for males, good or bad, to get through (sorry, I really didn't enjoy Matt or Darren's dancing AT ALL)”

Sadly you are probably right but unfortunately we will now never know. With all the negativity that was directed towards B+K I always felt that just making the final would have been a victory of sorts for them. Realistically I felt that they would ultimately be eliminated at the semi-final stage.....maybe in the bottom 2 with Alesha.....who knows.....as Alesha`s popularity with the GBP has yet to be tested.
capricorn_night
05-12-2007
I've felt a sort of indifference this whole series. I've enjoyed it but not as much as other years. I like Gethin the best and want him to win but it's not a 'OMG must top up my phone so I can vote'/ watching his dances and interviews on youtube etc like I was last year with Matt and Lilia.

Although that's actually quite a good thing, it means I don't need to take money from my 'Christmas Presents Fund' to pay for votes which happened last year.
Paace
05-12-2007
I agree with you OP. It has gone flat since the unfortunate departure of Kelly and Brendan. I also believe the show goes on a bit too long and should finish when they reach the last 5 couples. How many fresh and new things can they say about any of the celebs, which has not been said before.
XXBarbXX
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“As for Kelly and Brendan fans now voting for Gethin, I don't think its down to spiting Alesha I really do think its because most of us Brendan fans love Camilla and its natural for us to kind of swing our votes towards Camilla because of the bond between her and Brendan... I don't think it has anything to do with being anti-Alesha, Gethins dances don't gel with everyone, but they do with others, same goes for Alesha, and I think its good that Alesha has some competition in the fav poll...”


Cant make up my mind whether to vote for Gethin or Matt, those are the two I prefer...but its nothing to do with being anti Alesha.......pretty pathetic if you ask me to vote against someone rather that for them.......

Gethin edged it for me last Saturday because he danced better...but maybe this week I may prefer Matt...who knows?
Zeus
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by frell-tastic:
“I know it sounds so dramatic, but since it was announced that Kelly pulled out I have become practically disinterested in SCD. They were my favs and made the whole show exciting and just gave it that extra something. Now im very indifferent.”

Actually Frell, i do know what you mean. There is definitely a massive hole now that Kelly has left! But personally I'm still enjoying the show tremendously, even though I'm not rooting for anyone anymore.
Scorgeous
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by easygoingremi:
“Don't understand, I'm afraid. I love this show because I love dancing. There are still plenty of dancing to enjoy”

Me too. I watch the show because I love dancing. My favourites are Alesha and Matt and Kenny really entertained me, but if they were out I would still watch it for the dancing, especially the pro dances they are absolutely fantastic
Spinaker5
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
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I genuinely don't believe she would have made the final purely because of the way people vote on these things - with Matt, Gethin and Alesha all in the running I don't think she would have had a chance. Being in the bottom two is a big deal - if she was top of the public vote she wouldn't have been there, look at Kenny. Their problem was that they completely polarised opinion - nothing to do with their dancing, which was great”

Of course we will never know but I don't understand how you can possibly say how people vote. The polls on here have changed dramatically over the last couple of weeks. We are only guessing as to who was top of the public vote. Of course, we are both prejudiced because I think Kelly was a better dancer than Alesha whereas you obviously don't. It's partly a matter of taste (the performance aspect) and partly a matter of technique. If K&B's Foxtrot had been anything like their AS I think they could have got the public behind them.
soulmate61
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by bandicoot:
“There seems to be a bit of Alesha bashing going on in this thread. ”

No there is no Alesha bashing on this thread, there is indifference. Those who were excited by K&B are now pining for them, they are not excited by Alesha and Matt. Bandicoot's plaintive cry is "why?".

Alesha is strong meat, either you liked her from the start or you did not. Those who kept records can tell us, whether the DS "most-liked" poll for 9 consecutive weeks showed Alesha always hovering around 40% of the forum's 500 voter sample. As the 4 major vote getters left one after another (Penny, John, Kelly, Kenny), Alesha continued to be most-liked by around 40%, no more no less. If long-established Alesha fans were holding firm as seemed likely, then the inference is that over 9 consecutive weeks Alesha almost NEVER attracted new supporters. If the muffled dissenting voices on this thread mean anything, then no, the substantial college of Kelly and Brendan voters are not about to switch to Alesha.

Can anybody provide Alesha's percentage in the "most liked" DS poll over 9 weeks?

Looking at it from another angle, 60% were against Alesha in week 1, and 60% remain against her in week 10. In week 1 the anti-Alesha votes were split and made feeble, but by week 12 the opposition vote will have coalesced and united onto one single person, probably Gethin. Unlike Alesha, Gethin has no problems attracting new supporters. When Matt goes his large electoral college of 18% could to a person switch to the other handsome young man Gethin.

If Alesha's trend over 9 weeks of NOT attracting new supporters continues, then on Final night her 40% support could be completely swamped by Gethin's 60%.

We are of course analysing a voting sample of 500, while trying to project the voting intentions of 12 million. We shall see, in 17 days.
marjangles
05-12-2007
I think it's natural that once your favourite couple go out you lose interest. Last series I lost interest when Vincent and Louisa went out especially as they didn't get chance for their AT but I carrie don watching the show and switched to supporting Mark and Karen in the final although I hold my hands up and admit this is because I don't think I could have lived with Matt Dawson winning rather than any real passion for Mark.

I think the same would be true this year if Alesha goes out before the final. I would feel just as aggrieved that justice had not been done! Having said that, I would probably then go on and support one of the remaining dancers and still watch the final although with much less interest.

I do have to say that as a real partisan person myself (as in all series so far - Natasha, Jill, Zoe, Louisa and Alesha respectively, I surprised myself that they are all girls) it seems at the moment on here that any and all comments are interpreted as a slight against your chosen dancer, particularly if you are a Gethin or Alesha supporter. I recognise that not everyone likes Alesha and I'm really pleased Gethin is doing so well even though I don't vote for him currently although that will change if Alesha doesn't go all the way.

Given the fact that last weekend was a bit of a step back for everyone except Gethin for various reasons I think it's great that someone has stepped up to the plate. I do think I now feel that if there isn't a Gethin/Alesha final I will feel slightly cheated though.

I think partisan people need to take a deep breath and remember this is a fun, light hearted and camp competition sset up to make money for charity and win or lose all of our faves have done us proud, even if Brian Caapron or Stephanie Beacham were you dancer of choice.

This is a little off the topic of the thread but felt I had to get it out!
Birdie65
05-12-2007
Yes, I agree with the original poster to a certain degree, although I wouldn't say I've lost all interest. Certainly for me the competition went pretty flat when Kelly and Brendan left, but that may have been largely due to the atmosphere of sadness due to the death of Kelly's father, which I thought was evident in some of the other dancers and celebrities.

I have a soft spot for Camilla - I think she is lovely and deserves to win. I have no interest really in Matt or Gethin themselves, and I like Alesha's dancing. I will be happy whether it's Alesha or Gethin who wins. Maybe even Matt if he does really well.
Vincy82
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Scorgeous:
“Me too. I watch the show because I love dancing. My favourites are Alesha and Matt and Kenny really entertained me, but if they were out I would still watch it for the dancing, especially the pro dances they are absolutely fantastic”

Same here, as I mentioned in another post last night. I just love the magic of the shows. I would watch it no matter who was on it. Having Alesha on it dancing so beautifully is a big bonus however.
Vincy82
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by marjangles:
“I think it's natural that once your favourite couple go out you lose interest. Last series I lost interest when Vincent and Louisa went out especially as they didn't get chance for their AT but I carrie don watching the show and switched to supporting Mark and Karen in the final although I hold my hands up and admit this is because I don't think I could have lived with Matt Dawson winning rather than any real passion for Mark.

I think the same would be true this year if Alesha goes out before the final. I would feel just as aggrieved that justice had not been done! Having said that, I would probably then go on and support one of the remaining dancers and still watch the final although with much less interest.

I do have to say that as a real partisan person myself (as in all series so far - Natasha, Jill, Zoe, Louisa and Alesha respectively, I surprised myself that they are all girls) it seems at the moment on here that any and all comments are interpreted as a slight against your chosen dancer, particularly if you are a Gethin or Alesha supporter. I recognise that not everyone likes Alesha and I'm really pleased Gethin is doing so well even though I don't vote for him currently although that will change if Alesha doesn't go all the way.

Given the fact that last weekend was a bit of a step back for everyone except Gethin for various reasons I think it's great that someone has stepped up to the plate. I do think I now feel that if there isn't a Gethin/Alesha final I will feel slightly cheated though.

I think partisan people need to take a deep breath and remember this is a fun, light hearted and camp competition sset up to make money for charity and win or lose all of our faves have done us proud, even if Brian Caapron or Stephanie Beacham were you dancer of choice.

This is a little off the topic of the thread but felt I had to get it out!”


I truly can't see anything to dislike about Alesha or Gethin. Both very very nice young people, entertaining and quick to learn. Bless em both I say.
soulmate61
05-12-2007
Camilla reported on camera last week, that as she and Gethin went out for the waltz Gethin said to her "Let me lead this time."

Camilla said it in a steady voice with poker face. At that moment inside Camilla I suspect a choir of angels burst into song and rose petals fell on her from the sky.
thenetworkbabe
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Save the one who can't swim. ”

Save the one who can row.....
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