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Marc and Cerys: Just see what happens...
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foxy23
05-12-2007
I can totally understand people's distain for what happened between these two individuals - the hurt that was caused to Marc's partner Sarah, but...

Why is everyone so cynical about this union?
Love at first sight is actually possible.
Has no one on this forum experienced meeting/liking someone, to the destruction of common sense?

I don't think it was staged, although I did consider it at one point

But, even for the promise of bags of money and press coverage, I really don't think Marc OR Cerys would relish turning their lives upside down just for that.

And I don't think Marc wanted to become public enemy N01 - even if it DID provide him some much needed coverage. Who would want to be portrayed in the way he has over the last couple of weeks?

Sometimes, these things JUST happen. The connection they seemed to form in the jungle looked real to me - and I can be just as cynical as the next.

Cerys has been a credible indie artist in the past, and many feel she has now gone down the sleazy tell-all tabloid path...
But, she is a new divorcee, and has had some tough battles - maybe its changed her.
You can't go through certain experiences without it changing your perspective on life, love, the universe.

I just can't believe people on this forum are so short-sighted and ready to condemn two human beings.

Surely, we have not all lived our lives above reproach, and there are many things that we may have done differently?

Let's just see what happens with them...what if it really is the real thing?
Life moves in mysterious ways...That's life!
One and Only
05-12-2007
I'm in agreement with you.

Anyway Sarah is so upset that she's selling more stories.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbiz/2007...9520-20204626/
flowerlady
05-12-2007
Good luck to Marc & Cerys..... Sarah is pathetic as far as i can see
Tanequil
05-12-2007
The reason why these three sell their souls to the tabloids is that some where out there is the gullible.

I don't why that is so, maybe there are some that will always look for the best in every person and situation.

I do myself try however this is the world of celebrity, a world where easy money can be made by flashing your backside in lacy knickers and demeaning yourself and losing all moral values in front of the public, your friends and your children.
foxy23
05-12-2007
But if they genuinely fell in love (which I think they did), what can you do?

I really think they would have behaved in the same way, with or without the papers wanting to pay them money to 'tell-all'.

Marc looked genuinely shocking on 'Coming Out' last night, that the programme focused that heavily on the friendship.

The most you could call him would be naive!

He said he didn't realise he had been so expressive with his feelings etc.

I believe him - he is a tactile person by nature (despite the violent argument he had with Sarah) - so I can understand Cerys being drawn to his nature...

Jeez people...
It can happen, whereby two people meet (not always in the besyt situation) and fall in love.

I have been in both Sarah's and Cerys position before - although nothing substatial developed with the latter
- But at the time you are swept up with the euthoria.

So I think there is blame to be had, but I say now, just let them be, and see what happens further down the line.

If it was meant to be, time will prove it
Tanequil
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by foxy23:
“But if they genuinely fell in love (which I think they did), what can you do?

I really think they would have behaved in the same way, with or without the papers wanting to pay them money to 'tell-all'.

Marc looked genuinely shocking on 'Coming Out' last night, that the programme focused that heavily on the friendship.

The most you could call him would be naive!

He said he didn't realise he had been so expressive with his feelings etc.

I believe him - he is a tactile person by nature (despite the violent argument he had with Sarah) - so I can understand Cerys being drawn to his nature...

Jeez people...
It can happen, whereby two people meet (not always in the besyt situation) and fall in love.

I have been in both Sarah's and Cerys position before - although nothing substatial developed with the latter
- But at the time you are swept up with the euthoria.

So I think there is blame to be had, but I say now, just let them be, and see what happens further down the line.

If it was meant to be, time will prove it”

The majority including myself would like nothing better to let them be, but it has to work both ways.

The newspapers are not flocking around Marc, Cerys and Sarah quite the opposite, these three have agents or probably the same agent who is putting out stories and quotes on their behalf.

Since last week Marc, Cerys and Sarah have made in the region of £300,000 this amount rises daily.

With such money on offer it is not a question of will the press and us leave them alone but will they leave the press and us alone.
Code Y
05-12-2007
I don’t know why everyone is so cynical, this is the greatest ‘love affair’ since "Chanelle and Ziggy" and "Chantelle and Preston".
Tanequil
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Code Y:
“I don’t know why everyone is so cynical, this is the greatest ‘love affair’ since "Chanelle and Ziggy" and "Chantelle and Preston".”

If I was Cilla I would buy a hat.
foxy23
05-12-2007
Point taken.

But why can't we just give benefit of the doubt?

Maybe its the jungle magic? How do we know what that experience is like...If they felt close and got close quickly, who are we to challenge that???

Are people forgetting this is where Jordan and Peter Andre met and fell in love?

They are now married with an expanding family...
AND Jordan had a boyfriend at the time - I don't remember them getting all this negativety...and Jordan was/is the biggest media whore going!

I think its real, and I hope I am proved right...
truestar
05-12-2007
Iwould like to see something happen between them.
Veri
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“The majority including myself would like nothing better to let them be, but it has to work both ways.

The newspapers are not flocking around Marc, Cerys and Sarah quite the opposite, these three have agents or probably the same agent who is putting out stories and quotes on their behalf.

Since last week Marc, Cerys and Sarah have made in the region of £300,000 this amount rises daily.

With such money on offer it is not a question of will the press and us leave them alone but will they leave the press and us alone.”

Sorry, but I can't make sense out of what you're saying.

The press isn't interested, but is printing the stories anyway because ...???

Money is on offer too, even though the press is doing the "opposite" of "flocking around"???

How's that all supposed to work? Is the agent somehow able to force the press to print stories and to give his clients money???

And what is the evidence for how much money they've made, btw?
Veri
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by foxy23:
“I can totally understand people's distain for what happened between these two individuals - the hurt that was caused to Marc's partner Sarah, but...

Why is everyone so cynical about this union?
...”

It's because there's now automatic cynicism about any reality show romance. There's no good reason for the cynicism. It's just the way a lot of people now think.
Tanequil
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Sorry, but I can't make sense out of what you're saying.

The press isn't interested, but it printing the stories anyway because ...???

Money is on offer too, even though the press is doing the "opposite" of "flocking around"???

How's that all supposed to work? Is the agent somehow able to force the press to print stories and to give his clients money???

And what is the evidence for how much money they've made, btw?”

Celebrity gossip is a seller it has a market and customers and like all markets it can be manipulated.

An agent will tie up exclusive deals with a certain tabloid or magazine and negotiate a fee. for example Rodney Marsh was paid £50.000 for his jungle story.

For their initial interviews I believe both Sarah and Marc also received £50.000.

I believe the DS home page stories confirm this. Also it has been the debate of many threads.
Veri
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“Celebrity gossip is a seller it has a market and customers and like all markets it can be manipulated.

An agent will tie up exclusive deals with a certain tabloid or magazine and negotiate a fee. for example Rodney Marsh was paid £50.000 for his jungle story.

For their initial interviews I believe both Sarah and Marc also received £50.000.

I believe the DS home page stories confirm this. Also it has been the debate of many threads.”

50,000 is a long way from 300,000, but the amount was a minor, merely "btw", point anyway.

I would agree, of course, that the market can be manipulated -- but you made it sound like the press wasn't really interested (was doing the "opposite" of "flocking around") but for some (mysterious?) reason was printing the stories and offering lots of money anyway.

Tanequil
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Veri:
“50,000 is a long way from 300,000, but the amount was a minor, merely "btw", point anyway.

I would agree, of course, that the market can be manipulated -- but you made it sound like the press wasn't really interested (was doing the "opposite" of "flocking around") but for some (mysterious?) reason was printing the stories and offering lots of money anyway.

”

Once an agent has signed a particular deal then the news paper or magazine will normally whisk that particular celeb off as in the case with Marc Bannerman when he left the jungle never to been seen again, well for a while.

As for the £300,000 I may have even underestimated that figure. The Marc, Cerys and Sarah triangle is getting more vulgar. Vulgarity equals more cash and a lot more than the £50,000 Rodney received for telling the story of how he hurt his leg.
Sheba
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by One and Only:
“
Anyway Sarah is so upset that she's selling more stories.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbiz/2007...9520-20204626/”



That me made laugh lol
One and Only
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“Once an agent has signed a particular deal then the news paper or magazine will normally whisk that particular celeb off as in the case with Marc Bannerman when he left the jungle never to been seen again, well for a while.

As for the £300,000 I may have even underestimated that figure. The Marc, Cerys and Sarah triangle is getting more vulgar. Vulgarity equals more cash and a lot more than the £50,000 Rodney received for telling the story of how he hurt his leg.”

Please could you expand on this £300 000.
Where did this figure come from?
conchie
05-12-2007
I found the unfolding romance between Marc and Cerys genuine enough. You have to ask yourself if Marc was in such a stable and happy relationship with a girlfriend of two years...he would simply NOT have pursued or flirted with Cerys in the way he did, knowing that she was watching. Obviously the domestic bliss scenario at home was not all it seems.

There was a bit of a contradiction for me in the coming out programme last night. First Marc displays all the signs of a bereft man, who could not even look at himself in the mirror he felt so bad, realised how much he must have hurt Sarah and how awful it all was ............YET............allows a letter of love and support to be read out to Cerys live on TV.... just to shove the knife in even more! Is that the action of man devastated by what he has done to the GF. I dont believe for one minute the bereft boyfriend line at all.

There was a spark in that jungle that had to be pursued, and it will be interesting to see how it all works out.
susie-4964
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Code Y:
“I don’t know why everyone is so cynical, this is the greatest ‘love affair’ since "Chanelle and Ziggy" and "Chantelle and Preston".”

I don't believe in love at first sight. I'm a fanatical believer in lust at first sight, though. You can't "love" someone you don't even know. If the relationship can survive no-make-up mornings, farting, belching and other facts of life, maybe it might work.
Tanequil
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by One and Only:
“Please could you expand on this £300 000.
Where did this figure come from?”

Apart from TV interviews, there have been deals with Grazia magazine, Now magazine, News Group International and a forthcoming deal with O.K magazine.

That is just skimming the surface I am sure the agents or agent that acts on behalf of the Trio will not rest on their or his/her laurels.
Veri
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“Once an agent has signed a particular deal then the news paper or magazine will normally whisk that particular celeb off as in the case with Marc Bannerman when he left the jungle never to been seen again, well for a while.

As for the £300,000 I may have even underestimated that figure. The Marc, Cerys and Sarah triangle is getting more vulgar. Vulgarity equals more cash and a lot more than the £50,000 Rodney received for telling the story of how he hurt his leg.”

But why, if the press isn't interested (and is doing the opposite of flocking around), would the press be publishing the articles or offering the money, let alone whisking anyone off?

Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“Apart from TV interviews, there have been deals with Grazia magazine, Now magazine News Group International and a forthcoming deal with O.K magazine.

That is just skimming the surface I am sure the agents or agent that acts on behalf of the Trio will not rest on their or his/her laurels.”

That again sounds like the agent can get whatever the agent wants, regardless of whether the media are interested.

You keep making it sound like "it is not a question of will the press and us leave them alone but will they leave the press and us alone", and like the stories appear because an agent is putting out "stories and quotes", but why would any of the stories or quotes be printed unless there was media interest?
Tanequil
05-12-2007
I see what you are saying but I have the feeling you are over estimating the importance of Marc and Cerys. Yes there is a story but that story is being driven by them and because there is only a short sell by date for that story as well as for Marc, Cerys and Sarah then the agent or agents for those people have to push that story by making deals with the media before that sell by date comes about.

So why do Magazines and the press pay money and large amounts of money for the tawdry as well as the romantic side of the so called love triangle.

The simple reason is it is today's news, it has had a large amount of prime time exposure and therefore it will in the short term sell newspapers and magazines.

Are the press flocking about well maybe one or two but you have to understand this is the Marc, Cerys and Sarah triangle not the Brad, Angelina and Jennifer one.
ClarkF1
05-12-2007
Quote:
“Matravers said: "These last few weeks have been dirty, messy and sordid, but at least it's a clean break".”

It's been dirty, messy and sordid because of what she's been saying

Matravers flees UK to avoid press
Castanet
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by conchie:
“I found the unfolding romance between Marc and Cerys genuine enough. You have to ask yourself if Marc was in such a stable and happy relationship with a girlfriend of two years...he would simply NOT have pursued or flirted with Cerys in the way he did, knowing that she was watching. Obviously the domestic bliss scenario at home was not all it seems.

There was a bit of a contradiction for me in the coming out programme last night. First Marc displays all the signs of a bereft man, who could not even look at himself in the mirror he felt so bad, realised how much he must have hurt Sarah and how awful it all was ............YET............allows a letter of love and support to be read out to Cerys live on TV.... just to shove the knife in even more! Is that the action of man devastated by what he has done to the GF. I dont believe for one minute the bereft boyfriend line at all.

There was a spark in that jungle that had to be pursued, and it will be interesting to see how it all works out.”


Exactly - he's playing both ends against the middle
Tanequil
05-12-2007
Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“It's been dirty, messy and sordid because of what she's been saying

Matravers flees UK to avoid press”

Poor woman I wonder if she had the HIV test before she left.
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