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Old 06-12-2007, 20:25
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As each week goes by Leon looks and sounds more and more like Ray but has a much worse voice. Its as if X factor likes to mould the singers into 1 of a half a dozen templates. Swing works if you are a sophisticated sexy older singer but punk kids just look silly singing these songs.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:26
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At least Leon is a nice guy ooooops did i just say that out loud?!?
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:29
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But Ray is nice too - he was really great with Leona when she won, was genuinely happy for her. And is a natural on TV too. He was a judge on a children's dance competition this year and was very good at it.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:30
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This topic has already been the subject of a lengthy thread...you guys must be running out of ideas for topics to bash him about.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:33
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Both Leon and Ray are great!

But I think Leon has the better voice. Ray is the better entertainer.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:34
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But Ray is nice too - he was really great with Leona when she won, was genuinely happy for her. And is a natural on TV too. He was a judge on a children's dance competition this year and was very good at it.
I agree. He was genuinely happy for Leona when she won - and you could tell it wasn't fake. He was also really good with the kids.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:34
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But no-one is bashing him apart from possibly the OP. I was merely saying Ray is also nice - I have never seen such a gracious loser and it prompted Simon to reward him with a swing album recording in the States.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:35
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At least Leon is a nice guy ooooops did i just say that out loud?!?
I thought that Ray came across as nice too, unless you are implying that some of the other contestants are not so nice.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:36
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Well I'm a Ray fan, and do prefer him, but that's right, we've had this before and it ends up with argueing back and forth with no conclusion. In fact I think this is the third thread
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:36
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Do we really need another thread for the purposes of bashing a contestant? Whoever it is, none of them deserve this sort of thing. Debates is fine, but posting a post that could really have gone into another thread is a bit pointless
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:38
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But no-one is bashing him apart from possibly the OP. I was merely saying Ray is also nice - I have never seen such a gracious loser and it prompted Simon to reward him with a swing album recording in the States.
You might not be, but the purpose of this thread is to bash him...take a look at the main board and see how many threads there are out there attacking Leon.

It is way over the top...
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:42
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I'm a Rhydian fan and am getting sick of all the pointless posts of bashing each of these two contestants.

It does seem to be that over the last couple of days there have been some pretty pointless threads started to bash Leon.

Both of them have done well to get this far in the competition, and people are going to have their favourites but all the bashing of both contestants is getting a bit OTT.
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:51
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I'm a Rhydian fan and am getting sick of all the pointless posts of bashing each of these two contestants.

It does seem to be that over the last couple of days there have been some pretty pointless threads started to bash Leon.

Both of them have done well to get this far in the competition, and people are going to have their favourites but all the bashing of both contestants is getting a bit OTT.
Well said, my friend...
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Old 06-12-2007, 20:57
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Leon is worse than a poor mans ray
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Old 06-12-2007, 21:12
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Not just a weaker voice, weaker everything.

Ray is better at everything, ray should be insulted to be compared with Leon
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Old 06-12-2007, 21:15
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I thought that Ray came across as nice too, unless you are implying that some of the other contestants are not so nice.
Personally, i have met both of them and Leon could not have been any nicer, Ray meanwhile was just not!!
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Old 06-12-2007, 21:24
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You know..........Leon is not my favourite but I am actually gonna vote for him now as people on here have forced me into it. Leon is not an average singer by any means but he's only 18 , he's not had much professional experience which is more than what can be said for at least two of the other acts.

I much prefer Leon's voice to Rhydian's and Niki's.
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Old 06-12-2007, 21:30
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This is a prime example of what my thread I made earlier is about ...
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Old 06-12-2007, 21:33
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This is a prime example of what my thread I made earlier is about ...
I know. It is very sad that an 18 year old living his dream can instill this much hatred from some.
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Old 06-12-2007, 21:55
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Personally, i have met both of them and Leon could not have been any nicer, Ray meanwhile was just not!!


Leona was on the Paul O'Grady show recently and says Ray is lovely. She should know, they were together in the X Factor house for all those weeks plus the final week together
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Old 06-12-2007, 22:15
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I've got nothing against Leon but prefer Ray. Really don't see the point of a thread like this. Why even make the comparison.

As for whether they are nice or not. I'm sure they are both very nice, but both are entitled to off days when maybe they don't come across as well.

Throughout the whole of last year's x factor Ray never once spoke back at any of the judges, even when the judges were down right mean. He never said anything bad about any of the other contestants, not then and not to this day. Unlike others, not mentioning any names, but one has been quite nasty to Ray throughout the course of the year. I'll never forget when Leona and Ray may their final plea for votes in the final and Ray said vote for both of us. This coming from an 18 year old. His maturity, good manners and kind and caring nature have often been commented on by people who have worked with him.
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Old 06-12-2007, 22:21
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As each week goes by Leon looks and sounds more and more like Ray but has a much worse voice. Its as if X factor likes to mould the singers into 1 of a half a dozen templates. Swing works if you are a sophisticated sexy older singer but punk kids just look silly singing these songs.
Maybe it's just me, but Leon doesn't sing swing (or in a swing style) every week, whereas I'm pretty sure Ray did for a good chunk of his time in the competition. Based on that, why compare them as if they are exactly the same kind of performer? IMO, they're not.
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Old 07-12-2007, 00:01
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Maybe it's just me, but Leon doesn't sing swing (or in a swing style) every week, whereas I'm pretty sure Ray did for a good chunk of his time in the competition. Based on that, why compare them as if they are exactly the same kind of performer? IMO, they're not.
Leon's voice is much better than Ray's. Ray could never have pulled off 'You Don't Know Me' like Leon did.
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Old 07-12-2007, 00:06
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Ray has a better voice than Leon? Sorry, I strongly disagree.
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Old 07-12-2007, 00:24
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Both Leon and Ray are great!

But I think Leon has the better voice. Ray is the better entertainer.
I agree with that

May I ask a question though - I don't want to start a new thread and be accused of Leon bashing

Last year I supported Ray not sure why as I'm not really a fan of his type of music but he was a good entertainer. His none supporters used to ask why was someone his age singing that type of music and that he only appealed to grannies and housewives

This year we have Leon singing similar music yet he is supposed to appeal to the teeny vote

If someone could explain why there is such a difference I would be very grateful.
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