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Now Tennant has confirmed he's staying - who'll be his permanent companion?!
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Tanequil
11-12-2007
Originally Posted by trollface:
“He actually shrugs it off pretty quickly.

Until he regenerates, that is. His last word is "Adric?"”

Sure he didn't say A drink, that regeneration is thirsty work.

Adric was a stuck up pain in pajamas.
thenetworkbabe
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Correct. But they did know that Martha was only going to be in the one series before moving to Torchwood.



What I believe what I'm saying is "her leaving at the end of series 3 was planned from the start". That's the reason I used those words in that order.



According to who?



So why did you say that this would only be the case "with any luck"? If you're that sure, why hedge your bets?



And yet, mysteriously, she's not only coming back to the franchise but is also going to be in the spin-off show. She blew it so badly that they asked her to come back twice. Imagine if she'd been even worse, she might have got a guest spot on The Sarah Jane Adventures, too.

Hasn't it occurred to you that if the production team didn't want her around that they might have actually got rid of her? Or do you think she's got some photos of RTD in compromising positions or something?”

Torchwood is hardly promotion. You don't need to be a strong character for that as there are none in it. You do need a strong companion.
thenetworkbabe
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by dervish:
“Well there is now a backlash against a "strong" assitant.

Strong = gobby /mouthy and whingers.

Dr Who needs to bring back the role of the assistant as a more passive, pliant character like Jo, Nyssa or Victoria Waterfield. I find the "modern, emancipated" female assistants to be naseous and stereotypes/

Even a new version of Dodo Chaplet would be better than Tate or her 'bossy' ilk.”

Jo and Victoria and Dodo were all action women - two were actually pretty hip for their shows and Victoria was modern for her historical setting. Jo and Rose particularly have an awful lot in common - from saving the doctor to daring do to the love story. The only big difference was they were decidedly middleclass.

Nyssa never got much chance in a crowded tardis but she could easily have been a cross between Ace and Romana if they had written her that way - another starwars prncess was entirely possible.
Nadias_balls
12-12-2007
I think, out of the three of them, I can Martha staying on full time again, with the likelyhood of further companions arriving to make the numbers up later on.

I doubt Rose will return full time now, and something tells me even if they wanted her, Catherine Tate wouldn't want to sign onto such a big commitment for more than a year or so.

A lot of people seem to think Martha's popularity leaves something to be desired, but why then, bother to bring her back at all? Surely they'd have approached a companion from the classic series (many of who I'd imagine would jump at the chance to return).

So yes, I think out of the Donna, Rose and Martha, it'll be Martha (if anyone) who'll return full time for the specials and series five, with further companions joining the crew later on.
drwho-online
12-12-2007
Guys, DT has NOT confirmed he will be in Series 5 yet. This news will come in the form of an official press release from the BBC, if indeed he does stay.
Mulett
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by dervish:
“Yes those few left watching the programme will be surprised at just how bad she is...”

the words 'toys', 'throwing' and 'pram' spring to mind.
bibblebabble
12-12-2007
No! No! No! You are all wrong! We should have Jackie Tyler back

Forget Rose she just annoyed me

Oh & of course Sally Sparrow
Boinng
12-12-2007
Just as a point of general principle, can we just forget about this "Tennant has confirmed..." business? It's about time people realised that nothing is ever confirmed when it comes to actors staying or leaving - particularly in the Doctor's case. The survival of the 10th Doctor is never guaranteed from one episode to the next, nor should it be - therein lies at least some of the drama.

I don't understand why anyone would want to go into the next series sure that Tennant's safe for the whole run and beyond. I'd rather believe he could be written out in episode one, if that made for the best story, and was best for the show - and the point is, he could be - vague and reinterpretable quotes in an interview notwithstanding. RTD's done it before, and DT would also be perfectly justified in giving some journo a bum steer, if it deflected attention from a plot twist they wanted to keep hidden. He can always say "Surprise! Sorry, I am leaving really" the day after he regenerates into Danni Minogue, or whatever.
Yoonix
12-12-2007
Tennant won't be staying on. The only way they'd keep him for the 2010 season, would be to save Davros's return til then. Probably the only objective left to achieve for a DW fan like DT.

Somehow, I don't think they'll be holding Davros back that long though!
mighty thor
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by dervish:
“correct. Most ladies who I associate with are lady-like and show humility.

Rose was a very masculine mish-mash of all sorts of stereotypes - Chav, Feminist, Romantic, Spoilt Brat, Thicko, One parent family kid etc - what a repulsive character - played by a repulsive actress.”

So you're not a fan then?

Don't forget the dodgy skin!
Histeria
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by mighty thor:
“Don't forget the dodgy skin!”

And the mouth like a jackknifed dingy.

Ahem...

Sorry.



She did rather seem (to me) like an underwhelming 2007 remake of Ace, with all the 'edge' removed.
fraggle_bean
12-12-2007
Sigh - I so wish it could be Sally Sparrow. But it will never be because she wasn't RTD's creation. If he can't make royalties from her he ain't interested. Perhaps when he leaves the show.
priggy
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by fraggle_bean:
“Sigh - I so wish it could be Sally Sparrow. But it will never be because she wasn't RTD's creation. If he can't make royalties from her he ain't interested. Perhaps when he leaves the show.”

I liked Sally Sparrow, but her character is done. They reached a level of completeness with her character. I don't think Sally would agree to travel with the Doctor in the first place.
trollface
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Torchwood is hardly promotion.”

I didn't say it was. I said it wasn't being kicked off the production for not being popular enough. Which it isn't. It's being given a completely-planned move to a spin-off show followed by a completely-planned return to the main programme.
simsy
12-12-2007
Martha should be full time. No ifs or buts. Dr brooded WAY too much over Rose's departure.
Bill Fan
12-12-2007
They should use a male companion for once, no young love struck girls please lol, preferably Elton from Love and Monsters as he was a great character and Mark Warren is a fantastic actor,

Or an alien companion. I bet that has never been done before.
dubious1977
12-12-2007
I like the Alien companion idea. Maybe it's time for Frobisher!
Craigpugh
12-12-2007
i also like the alien companion idea- not been done has it apart from maybe nyssa and romana (and the robots K9 and kameilon)- as i think adric and leela were descenede from human colonists? Chan- although some alien characters would be right annoying if they were in every episode- tho
Mulett
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by Craigpugh:
“Chan- although some alien characters would be right annoying if they were in every episode- tho”

I see what you did there
priggy
12-12-2007
I wouldn't mind CT staying for longer than one series depending obviously on how good she is in series 4. I would love to see a non-21st century character travel in the TARDIS for longer than a couple of episodes.
Mansun
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by Boinng:
“Just as a point of general principle, can we just forget about this "Tennant has confirmed..." business? It's about time people realised that nothing is ever confirmed when it comes to actors staying or leaving - particularly in the Doctor's case. The survival of the 10th Doctor is never guaranteed from one episode to the next, nor should it be - therein lies at least some of the drama.

I don't understand why anyone would want to go into the next series sure that Tennant's safe for the whole run and beyond. I'd rather believe he could be written out in episode one, if that made for the best story, and was best for the show - and the point is, he could be - vague and reinterpretable quotes in an interview notwithstanding. RTD's done it before, and DT would also be perfectly justified in giving some journo a bum steer, if it deflected attention from a plot twist they wanted to keep hidden. He can always say "Surprise! Sorry, I am leaving really" the day after he regenerates into Danni Minogue, or whatever.”

But regardless of season 5, it has been confirmed that Tennant is in the whole of season 4 and the three specials that follow. Nothing to do with any "vague quotes" given by RTD or anyone else, it was in an official BBC press release. It's a fact. It's happening. End of story.

And *if* he stays for season 5 then that will be confirmed long beforehand too. The scenario you're describing of a surprise regeneration would simply be impossible to pull off, as they discovered when they tried it with Eccleston in season 1.
yohinnchild
12-12-2007
Two new companions, a twenties something Female and a twenties something Male
trollface
12-12-2007
Yeah, both Nyssa and Romana were definitely aliens. Adric was also an alien. The original starliner crash victims were human colonists, but they'd long since died and were replaced by the Mashmen. Leela was descended from humans, though.

Turlough was also an alien, as was, of course, Susan.

And, yes, I'll second Frobisher. Not that he wouldn't be far too expensive, but still.
Boinng
12-12-2007
Originally Posted by Mansun:
“But regardless of season 5, it has been confirmed that Tennant is in the whole of season 4 and the three specials that follow. Nothing to do with any "vague quotes" given by RTD or anyone else, it was in an official BBC press release. It's a fact. It's happening. End of story.”

I sincerely hope that press release was a pre meditated, carefully considered lie - not because I want Tennant to go, but because I don't believe they should be formally issuing long-term spoilers in that way. Also, it would annoy people like you, who seem to revel in pre-determined, unsurprising, joyless "facts" like this.

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“And *if* he stays for season 5 then that will be confirmed long beforehand too. The scenario you're describing of a surprise regeneration would simply be impossible to pull off, as they discovered when they tried it with Eccleston in season 1.”

That's exactly what they want you to think
Mulett
12-12-2007
My personal feeling is that David Tennant wouldn't want to leave on a damp squib - and leaving after three 'specials' (no matter how good they are) would be a bit of a low-profile exit.

So I would think he is signed up for season 5, and that one of the key reasons the show is taking a year off is to allow him time to do Hamlet in 2008 before returning for another full season.

That said, I agree that nothing is ever set in stone and even a confirmed BBC statement wouldn't necessarily be set in stone until filming of season 5 is actually underway with Tennant on board.
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