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Does Anyone think the Beatles Tomorrow Never Knows is techno like
bluejetson
11-12-2007
I listened to Tomorrow Never Knows at a club the other night. It just sounded way ahead of its time full blast. It has the drum N bass sound with one chord and with tape loops or sample like music all over the track. It is not that different to what your hear in a lot of music today. The Chemical Brothers and Beck are some of who were influenced by this song.
ayrshireman
12-12-2007
Yes,and has been mentioned over the years as an influence on dance music.

A 1966 track at least 25-30 years ahead of its time.

There's a reason the Beatles are treated with awe...
ayrshireman
12-12-2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVUzTZ5dgwQ
rooneydude
14-12-2007
Count me as another one though, I would call this as early trance dance music or psychedelic techno. The Chemical Brothers did the Beatles a great homage on this song on Setting Sun. Beck also on New Pollution and even Public Enemy has a tribute song to this though it was never released.
Inkblot
14-12-2007
It's also a song that's itself heavily influenced by other musical genres. I don't know the "official" story but I'd say it has obvious references to Indian classical music and electronic music, maybe also the Moroccan music that Brian Jones (of the Rolling Stones) was also into in the Sixties.
rob1973
14-12-2007
Yes..I've always thought it was the acid house of it's day. The carzy effects and walking bass line. It's all there.
rooneydude
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Inkblot:
“It's also a song that's itself heavily influenced by other musical genres. I don't know the "official" story but I'd say it has obvious references to Indian classical music and electronic music, maybe also the Moroccan music that Brian Jones (of the Rolling Stones) was also into in the Sixties.”

Tomorrow Never Knows uses tamboura drones the first use of this in a rock song. It uses tape loops of music and they just sampled in there and some of it was mellotron. Brian Jones Morroccan music was used a year and half after Revolver was released.
Inkblot
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by rooneydude:
“Tomorrow Never Knows uses tamboura drones the first use of this in a rock song. It uses tape loops of music and they just sampled in there and some of it was mellotron. Brian Jones Morroccan music was used a year and half after Revolver was released.”

The Master Musicians of Joujouka were well-known to hip Beat Generation types in the 1950s according to Wikipedia.

The treated tape bits in Tomorrow Never Knows sound like the melodies in Joujouka music (eg this YouTube clip , The Beatles were clearly influenced by music from other cultures so I wondered if Tomorrow Never Knows was influenced by Moroccan music. They'd already used sitar on Norwegian Wood.
rooneydude
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Inkblot:
“The Master Musicians of Joujouka were well-known to hip Beat Generation types in the 1950s according to Wikipedia.

The treated tape bits in Tomorrow Never Knows sound like the melodies in Joujouka music (eg this YouTube clip , The Beatles were clearly influenced by music from other cultures so I wondered if Tomorrow Never Knows was influenced by Moroccan music. They'd already used sitar on Norwegian Wood.”

Tomorrow Never Knows is influenced by Indian music and the use of tape loops. They added a dance like drum beat to it and a droning bassline and you have a new type of music.
pierre_gustave
15-12-2007
Originally Posted by rooneydude:
“Tomorrow Never Knows is influenced by Indian music and the use of tape loops. They added a dance like drum beat to it and a droning bassline and you have a new type of music.”

The drumming on it is Ringo at his best
NEPatrtiots08
05-09-2008
The song is way ahead of it's time. The insane lived mixed tape loops with a drum beat with no rolls. The song is based on a one chord drone. It foreshadows the future for sure.
Hotelier
01-10-2011
Sorry to bump an old thread, but had to comment.

I find it amazing that this song was done only three and a half years after 'Love me do'. such amazing musical progression.....you just dont see that these days.
CABLEDUDE
01-10-2011
Sort of related I suppose, but I've also heard a similar style between:

George Harrison - the Art of Dying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKxbEFefLA

Pendulum - Propane Nightmares
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2KC1P9s6-Q

Maybe I'm just strange.

As for Tomorrow Never Knows, yeah it's way ahead of its time, and the Beatles working together at their best, John reading lines from the Tibetan Book of the Dead, plus Paul's idea to add tape loops, and Ringo's drumming.
ajman
01-10-2011
Reminds me of this Delia Derbyshire track from 1963 which sounds eerily like some of the Warp label's output from over a quarter of a century later:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szE5D-dPs_Y
chris redfield
04-10-2011
Originally Posted by rooneydude:
“Count me as another one though, I would call this as early trance dance music or psychedelic techno. The Chemical Brothers did the Beatles a great homage on this song on Setting Sun. Beck also on New Pollution and even Public Enemy has a tribute song to this though it was never released.”

yea you can definitely hear its influence on those tracks.
1lennonlove
04-10-2011
Keeping it simple - Absolutely.
mushymanrob
05-10-2011
Originally Posted by ayrshireman:
“There's a reason the Beatles are treated with awe...”

exactly!

there was a rock doc on tv a few years ago focusing on various song writers...when they did lennon/mccartney they analised 'tommorow never knows, they decided that it had 7 new innovative techniques that had never been used before . (there was 13 on the revolver album).

is it any wonder that i get annoyed at some who label them a 'boyband'.
my name is joe
05-10-2011
Originally Posted by Hotelier:
“Sorry to bump an old thread, but had to comment.

I find it amazing that this song was done only three and a half years after 'Love me do'. such amazing musical progression.....you just dont see that these days.”

no you don't, too afraid of alienating their fans these days
m06een00
05-10-2011
Tomorrow Never Knows was a hugely influential track that arguably spawned psychedelic rock, although at the time that phrase hadn't yet come into existence. Within a few months psychedelic bands started springing up everywhere particularly on the American west coast scene with names like Jefferson Airplane, Strawberry Alarm Clock, Moby Grape, Electric Prunes etc. Brian Wilson on hearing Tomorrow Never Knows was alleged to have been influenced to write Good Vibrations. And over here Syd Barrett on hearing the track changed the music of Pink Floyd which started as a student R&B group to that of concentrating on psychedelic and improvisational music.
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