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The Niki's Dad, Niki's songs and Emily's victims appreciation thread
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Jemes-666
14-12-2007
All of these need appreciating because they are, as we all know, the real stars of the show. Without Niki's dad (who is apparently dead) and her constant mentioning of him we wouldn't have anything to mock her for (besides her hideous brummie accent, hideous face and general hideousness), without her songs she wouldn't have had anything to murder each week and, without Emily's victims, we'd have had to endure an additional week of Niki's singing as Emily would still have been there for another vote-off.

Therefore, you should all join the appreciation thread for the three weeks that have kept this series alive!
*<BettY>*
14-12-2007
Charming.

They are gone. Lets forget about it and move on.
neelia
14-12-2007
This leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think that Niki's Dad was talked about too much but his death and her grief are not anything I am comfortable seeing mocked. I agree woth Betty, can't we let it be?
Jemes-666
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by neelia:
“This leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think that Niki's Dad was talked about too much but his death and her grief are not anything I am comfortable seeing mocked. I agree with Betty, can't we let it be?”

Probably came across wrong, didn't mean mock his death, I'm not a sadist. It was just the idea that she constantly moaned about it as though it gave her rights to win because *crocodile tears* this was her dad's favourite song *ends crocodile tears* and because he left her an application form which probably wasn't even for her.

Without her I probably wouldn't have bothered watching at all, her sheer arrogance and cheery mood always lightened up Saturdays for me.
The Spoon
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Jemes-666:
“All of these need appreciating because they are, as we all know, the real stars of the show. Without Niki's dad (who is apparently dead) and her constant mentioning of him we wouldn't have anything to mock her for (besides her hideous brummie accent, hideous face and general hideousness), without her songs she wouldn't have had anything to murder each week and, without Emily's victims, we'd have had to endure an additional week of Niki's singing as Emily would still have been there for another vote-off.

Therefore, you should all join the appreciation thread for the three weeks that have kept this series alive! ”

although I think that the OP has a point about her dad being brought up so often and I can sympathise with Emily's victims, the rest of it is ungracious and, to be frank, a little childish.
neelia
14-12-2007
Personnally I was really touched by the story of finding the form amongst her Dad's things (and I would be very very suprised if it wasn't for her) and wouldn't have minded a few references to him from time to time. I have no reason to think that they were crocdile tears (meaning faked) or that she was consiously using them to get votes (but then again, how would I know?). I think that the contestants are encouraged to talk about the sob stuff. We don;t get to see what questions or prompts were put to them. I have to say that if anyone was to ask me about either of my dead parents I would be only too happy to. Most of us don't really get to talk about out dear departed as much as we would like. The only people in our culure that ask us to are journalists and Xfactor producers!!! Regarding sob stories I would reckon that for many people they are at the back of the drive to suceed/

At the same time I sympatise with the "oh God not again" response.
SGE
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by neelia:
“Personnally I was really touched by the story of finding the form amongst her Dad's things (and I would be very very suprised if it wasn't for her) and wouldn't have minded a few references to him from time to time. I have no reason to think that they were crocdile tears (meaning faked) or that she was consiously using them to get votes (but then again, how would I know?). I think that the contestants are encouraged to talk about the sob stuff. We don;t get to see what questions or prompts were put to them. I have to say that if anyone was to ask me about either of my dead parents I would be only too happy to. Most of us don't really get to talk about out dear departed as much as we would like. The only people in our culure that ask us to are journalists and Xfactor producers!!! Regarding sob stories I would reckon that for many people they are at the back of the drive to suceed/

At the same time I sympatise with the "oh God not again" response.”


I thought it had 'almost' been proven that her dad died BEFORE the application forms were actually printed? Apologies if this is incorrect.
Jemes-666
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“I thought it had 'almost' been proven that her dad died BEFORE the application forms were actually printed? Apologies if this is incorrect.”

That wouldn't actually surprise me although if it hasn't yet been proven then we can't be sure. There have been contestants in the past with sob stories of course but with Niki it literally seemed to be a case of bringing it up at every given moment, just to remind us in case we've had our heads buried in the sand for 10 weeks. Then again, I also wouldn't be surprised if that was down to Louis the closeted Irishman Walsh forcing her to do it in his desperation to get one over on Simon and win.
neelia
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“I thought it had 'almost' been proven that her dad died BEFORE the application forms were actually printed? Apologies if this is incorrect.”

I really really hope that that isn't true.
marky24601
14-12-2007
BEST THREAD EVER ! The whole dad thing worked for 2 weeks but after that it got silly...

it just shows that people like nikki are not going to go far
Stephxxx
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Jemes-666:
“All of these need appreciating because they are, as we all know, the real stars of the show. Without Niki's dad (who is apparently dead) and her constant mentioning of him we wouldn't have anything to mock her for (besides her hideous brummie accent, hideous face and general hideousness), without her songs she wouldn't have had anything to murder each week and, without Emily's victims, we'd have had to endure an additional week of Niki's singing as Emily would still have been there for another vote-off.

Therefore, you should all join the appreciation thread for the three weeks that have kept this series alive! ”

Hey! Not fair. I agreed with most your post but bringing up her accent is mean. Ive got a black country accent - is that hideous too??
austin_yogi07
14-12-2007
lol aw not at all!

btw this is quite a sad thread..sad as in lame..let it go.
superstar111
14-12-2007
Emilys victims? dont you mena VICTIM. It was a fight, which happened TWO years ago, and moreso, the girls are best friends now, so the girl in question wasnt as innocent as she was made out.
ProVista
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Stephxxx:
“Hey! Not fair. I agreed with most your post but bringing up her accent is mean. Ive got a black country accent - is that hideous too?? ”

No its far from hideous! All my family originate from Birmingham and I love the accent. Its a very friendly "come and have a cuppa" accent.
Tom1007
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“I thought it had 'almost' been proven that her dad died BEFORE the application forms were actually printed? Apologies if this is incorrect.”

He died in September. Application forms go out at the end of the series. It may have been a series 3 application and she has applied for a series 4 one.

Originally Posted by neelia:
“Personnally I was really touched by the story of finding the form amongst her Dad's things (and I would be very very suprised if it wasn't for her) and wouldn't have minded a few references to him from time to time. I have no reason to think that they were crocdile tears (meaning faked) or that she was consiously using them to get votes (but then again, how would I know?). I think that the contestants are encouraged to talk about the sob stuff. We don;t get to see what questions or prompts were put to them. I have to say that if anyone was to ask me about either of my dead parents I would be only too happy to. Most of us don't really get to talk about out dear departed as much as we would like. The only people in our culure that ask us to are journalists and Xfactor producers!!! Regarding sob stories I would reckon that for many people they are at the back of the drive to suceed/

At the same time I sympatise with the "oh God not again" response.”

Agree 100%. Perhaps the OP should wait until their dad dies and then comes back to make those remarks again although it did get a bit repetitive but its still distasteful of the OP.

Originally Posted by superstar111:
“Emilys victims? dont you mena VICTIM. It was a fight, which happened TWO years ago, and moreso, the girls are best friends now, so the girl in question wasnt as innocent as she was made out.”

Again, I agree 100%. It was all taken out of context and we have never seen both sides of the story.
austin_yogi07
14-12-2007
Didn't see the other side!?!?! The other girl wasn't in the x factor! There is video evidence of Emily happy slapping someone, trust me when i say that's enough to boot her out the comp!!!! Keeping her in, wouldn't be morally right, hardly a great role model who in her own words wants to 'represent girls of her own age'...jeez, give me a break.
Some people on here never fail to suprise me with their comments sometimes..
kyri
14-12-2007
Niki took her dad's death really badly and i don't think we should make fun of it. They all have had a sob story, it's just hers seemed the most over-used.
superstar111
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by austin_yogi07:
“ Didn't see the other side!?!?! The other girl wasn't in the x factor! There is video evidence of Emily happy slapping someone, trust me when i say that's enough to boot her out the comp!!!! Keeping her in, wouldn't be morally right, hardly a great role model who in her own words wants to 'represent girls of her own age'...jeez, give me a break.
Some people on here never fail to suprise me with their comments sometimes..”

LOL. A reason to kick someone out? Everybody makes mistakes, and this was TWO years ago. Emily regretted this, but how the hell should ONE mistake draw out her whole future? And actually, Emily and the girl had been fighting before that, but that just wasnt recorded
Tom1007
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by austin_yogi07:
“ Didn't see the other side!?!?! The other girl wasn't in the x factor! There is video evidence of Emily happy slapping someone, trust me when i say that's enough to boot her out the comp!!!! Keeping her in, wouldn't be morally right, hardly a great role model who in her own words wants to 'represent girls of her own age'...jeez, give me a break.
Some people on here never fail to suprise me with their comments sometimes..”

What if the other girl did something before the attack to provoke that one? There is no evidence against that but at the same time there is no evidence for it.

I think you should reserve judgement until you know the whole story.
Sylvia
14-12-2007
The dead dad story was bad enough but Niki couldn't leave it at that - she went on to moan about being 'just a dinner lady'.That's when she lost any sympathy I might have had.
neelia
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Sylvia:
“The dead dad story was bad enough but Niki couldn't leave it at that - she went on to moan about being 'just a dinner lady'.That's when she lost any sympathy I might have had.”

Tes there was something about the way that she talked about not wanting to come back to it (and there is nothing wrong with her not wanting to), that made it seem like it was prostitution and somehow unworthy.
Tom1007
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Sylvia:
“The dead dad story was bad enough but Niki couldn't leave it at that - she went on to moan about being 'just a dinner lady'.That's when she lost any sympathy I might have had.”

Dinnerladies are not seen as important people in the way that singers are quite important, and she aspires to be a singer. Sorry to sound patronising but its just the way it is.
Stephxxx
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by ProVista:
“No its far from hideous! All my family originate from Birmingham and I love the accent. Its a very friendly "come and have a cuppa" accent.”

Nice way to describe it
Gemwba
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Stephxxx:
“Nice way to describe it ”

Hello my fellow yam-yam!!!

'ow am ya cocker?
Kyle123
14-12-2007
Originally Posted by Jemes-666:
“All of these need appreciating because they are, as we all know, the real stars of the show. Without Niki's dad (who is apparently dead) and her constant mentioning of him we wouldn't have anything to mock her for (besides her hideous brummie accent, hideous face and general hideousness), without her songs she wouldn't have had anything to murder each week and, without Emily's victims, we'd have had to endure an additional week of Niki's singing as Emily would still have been there for another vote-off. ”


Not only is this thread appauling nasty, but the one line that I highlighted really takes the buiscut. Yes, you didnt like Niki, fair enough, you have every right not to. But suggesting that her father is only 'apparently' dead is abysmal. How many people do you know who would go on TV week after week, LYING about their father being dead. NONE. Its absurdly nasty, and NOBODY should be apprieciating it!
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