Know what you mean. All I can say is, listen to the interview and make your own mind up......
David Tennant Leaving?
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Originally Posted by trollface:
“Yup, you're absolutely right.
Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009, but it's highly unlikely that they put the whole thing on hold so that David Tennant could do Shakespeare. The smart money is on it being a time when they can set about getting the programme ready to be shot in HD.”
“Yup, you're absolutely right.
Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009, but it's highly unlikely that they put the whole thing on hold so that David Tennant could do Shakespeare. The smart money is on it being a time when they can set about getting the programme ready to be shot in HD.”
That's exactly why! By scheduling breaks for David to stretch his acting wings, they get to keep one of the best Doctor's there's ever been and use him in other stuff that gets ratings galore. It's a brilliant move by the Beeb. for once.
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“could she have been unwittingly 'recruited' by someone who wants eyes and ears on The Doctor?”
“could she have been unwittingly 'recruited' by someone who wants eyes and ears on The Doctor?”
I think so, yeah - I can't think that she would have any other motive, unless she's still grieving over Lance and blames the Doctor for the whole episode.
It could be a Turlough/Black Guardian type thing, but it would be good if, unlike Turlough, Donna didn't relent when it came to the crunch.
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“didn't RTD say that the hand in the jar still has a pivotal part to play in the unfolding events of series 4?”
“didn't RTD say that the hand in the jar still has a pivotal part to play in the unfolding events of series 4?”
I believe so, yes...but I'm not sure how that's going to fit in. Someone did suggest that the Master's ring could be placed on the hand to bring the Master back, but I can't see them doing another Master-driven finale so soon.
Maybe in another episode...
Regards,
Cypher
Originally Posted by winsletsky+:
“There is no whom.”
“There is no whom.”
Then we're back to my original statement that "Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009[...]"
Originally Posted by TimCypher:
“I think so, yeah - I can't think that she would have any other motive, unless she's still grieving over Lance and blames the Doctor for the whole episode.
It could be a Turlough/Black Guardian type thing, but it would be good if, unlike Turlough, Donna didn't relent when it came to the crunch.
I believe so, yes...but I'm not sure how that's going to fit in. Someone did suggest that the Master's ring could be placed on the hand to bring the Master back, but I can't see them doing another Master-driven finale so soon.
Maybe in another episode...
Regards,
Cypher”
“I think so, yeah - I can't think that she would have any other motive, unless she's still grieving over Lance and blames the Doctor for the whole episode.
It could be a Turlough/Black Guardian type thing, but it would be good if, unlike Turlough, Donna didn't relent when it came to the crunch.
I believe so, yes...but I'm not sure how that's going to fit in. Someone did suggest that the Master's ring could be placed on the hand to bring the Master back, but I can't see them doing another Master-driven finale so soon.
Maybe in another episode...
Regards,
Cypher”
I thought that in series 3 the hand might be used by The Master to create a new body for himself..before it was revealed to be Professor Yana etc..so what if the hand was used to 'grow' another Doctor that could be with Rose in the alt universe as after all everyone wants a happy ending.
no I haven't been at the cooking sherry again!
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Originally Posted by trollface:
“Then we're back to my original statement that "Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009[...]"”
“Then we're back to my original statement that "Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009[...]"”
Because David had some theatre stuff booked in, they wanted to keep him so they built in a year off to do so.
Originally Posted by winsletsky+:
“Because David had some theatre stuff booked in, they wanted to keep him so they built in a year off to do so.”
“Because David had some theatre stuff booked in, they wanted to keep him so they built in a year off to do so.”
Again you're stating this as fact. You've just admitted that you don't have a source for this information. That means that you don't know whether it's true. You just believe it is, based on no evidence whatsoever.
So we're still back to my original statement that nobody knows why.
It is the reason, I just can't remember when it came out - it was a good few months ago. I'll go check The Final Frontier to see if it's referenced...
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Then we're back to my original statement that "Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009[...]"”
“Then we're back to my original statement that "Nobody knows why there are going to be specials rather than a full series in 2009[...]"”
it could tie in with the rumoured switch over to HD..sets having to be rebuilt etc but also the fact the old team might want a decent hand over period to the new one. not presenting this as fact as I know as much as the next person.
Purely budgetary according to the media section in the grauniad thus stopping future series being cancelled by the bean counters who have wrestled the creatives out.
Originally Posted by winsletsky+:
“It is the reason, I just can't remember when it came out - it was a good few months ago. I'll go check The Final Frontier to see if it's referenced...”
“It is the reason, I just can't remember when it came out - it was a good few months ago. I'll go check The Final Frontier to see if it's referenced...”
It has not been stated as the reason by anyone even remotely official. It has been stated that he is going to be appearing onstage with the RSC during the break, but that's as far as information goes.
Conjecture, maybe, but certainly mentioned in the Sunday Time's (IIRC) preview of the Christmas special which referred to the 2008 filming schedule being restructured in to specials to allow Tennant to do his Shakespearean stint on stage.
If I was in charge at the BBC and I knew Tennant was happy to continue but wanted opportunities to do some other stuff as well, restructuring the filming and taking a year out as far as a full series is concerned is exactly what I'd do to accomodate him.
There are other things they could do with the time slot on a year off and he is important to the role.
If I was in charge at the BBC and I knew Tennant was happy to continue but wanted opportunities to do some other stuff as well, restructuring the filming and taking a year out as far as a full series is concerned is exactly what I'd do to accomodate him.
There are other things they could do with the time slot on a year off and he is important to the role.
Originally Posted by kenjude:
“Conjecture, maybe, but certainly mentioned in the Sunday Time's (IIRC) preview of the Christmas special which referred to the 2008 filming schedule being restructured in to specials to allow Tennant to do his Shakespearean stint on stage.”
“Conjecture, maybe, but certainly mentioned in the Sunday Time's (IIRC) preview of the Christmas special which referred to the 2008 filming schedule being restructured in to specials to allow Tennant to do his Shakespearean stint on stage.”
Yeah, but The Times is about as reliable as The Sun these days.
Quote:
“If I was in charge at the BBC and I knew Tennant was happy to continue but wanted opportunities to do some other stuff as well, restructuring the filming and taking a year out as far as a full series is concerned is exactly what I'd do to accomodate him.”
“If I was in charge at the BBC and I knew Tennant was happy to continue but wanted opportunities to do some other stuff as well, restructuring the filming and taking a year out as far as a full series is concerned is exactly what I'd do to accomodate him.”
I wouldn't. The fact that Tennant is the 10th person to play the role rather proves that the programme is bigger than the actor.
Got to say that I thought the reason for the specials was because Tennant was doing the boards, If they were to have a new Doc at the end of this series why would thye only be doing 3 specials and not a new series.
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“is this a bit of an own goal by a fellow cast member (who should have been briefed by the Press/Pr machine about questions like this coming up as they frequently do) or is it a deliberate leak as either the story is true or they are trying to generate even more speculation for series 4?”
“is this a bit of an own goal by a fellow cast member (who should have been briefed by the Press/Pr machine about questions like this coming up as they frequently do) or is it a deliberate leak as either the story is true or they are trying to generate even more speculation for series 4?”
Smacks of being a deliberate leak. CT's BBC through and through, and would've been well briefed on what info she could and couldn't divulge, so I'm more inclined to believe this "leak" was intended.
Perhaps DT is in two minds over staying, and the information was made public knowledge in an effort to generate some fan support for his staying? Perhaps an RTD tactic? Sadly, there's hardly a murmur on the subject, so I guess nobody's that interested whether he stays or goes.
I never once thought DT would be there for Season 5, but it does beg the question "If DT's mind is pretty much made up, then why have a gap year?"
Originally Posted by Yoonix:
“Smacks of being a deliberate leak. CT's BBC through and through, and would've been well briefed on what info she could and couldn't divulge, so I'm more inclined to believe this "leak" was intended.
Perhaps DT is in two minds over staying, and the information was made public knowledge in an effort to generate some fan support for his staying? Perhaps an RTD tactic? Sadly, there's hardly a murmur on the subject, so I guess nobody's that interested whether he stays or goes.
I never once thought DT would be there for Season 5, but it does beg the question "If DT's mind is pretty much made up, then why have a gap year?"”
“Smacks of being a deliberate leak. CT's BBC through and through, and would've been well briefed on what info she could and couldn't divulge, so I'm more inclined to believe this "leak" was intended.
Perhaps DT is in two minds over staying, and the information was made public knowledge in an effort to generate some fan support for his staying? Perhaps an RTD tactic? Sadly, there's hardly a murmur on the subject, so I guess nobody's that interested whether he stays or goes.
I never once thought DT would be there for Season 5, but it does beg the question "If DT's mind is pretty much made up, then why have a gap year?"”
possibly to have a hand over period to allow the new team to bed in, possibly choose a new lead, assemble what writers they wish to use..is anyone's guess Yoonix. it might come down to budgetary constraints at the BBC and wanting to do other projects before bringing Who back, the move to HD.
Personally, with the rumoured departure of RTD, and the Rumoured departure of David, things are looking up.
Personally i don't want a Tom Baker situation again.
He went on for too long and people associated him more with the role than any other. DT has placed the character back into the nations psyche but i think it's time for a newbie to carry it on and i hope the 3 specials will be fitting stories for such a great actor who when he's made his millions after the yanks have got hold of him we can look back and say "he was ours first".
DW has always been about renewel and going forward.
He went on for too long and people associated him more with the role than any other. DT has placed the character back into the nations psyche but i think it's time for a newbie to carry it on and i hope the 3 specials will be fitting stories for such a great actor who when he's made his millions after the yanks have got hold of him we can look back and say "he was ours first".
DW has always been about renewel and going forward.
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“possibly to have a hand over period to allow the new team to bed in, possibly choose a new lead, assemble what writers they wish to use..is anyone's guess Yoonix. it might come down to budgetary constraints at the BBC and wanting to do other projects before bringing Who back, the move to HD.”
“possibly to have a hand over period to allow the new team to bed in, possibly choose a new lead, assemble what writers they wish to use..is anyone's guess Yoonix. it might come down to budgetary constraints at the BBC and wanting to do other projects before bringing Who back, the move to HD.”
Think you've pretty well nailed it there BG. Initially when I listened to the Wossy show I thought CT had accidentally let the 'DT leaving' slip. The more I think about it now it seems unlikely they would have told her DT was leaving unless they wanted the info 'out there'. DT leaving at the end of the specials seems about right in terms of 'time served'. Three series and three specials plus 2 christmas episodes seems a pretty good innings and it may be that DT has done all he feels he is going to be allowed to do with the role. We all know that DT has gone on record as saying he loves the role but there comes a time where, even if you love chocolate you get sick of eating it. Perhaps DT has nearly had his fill of chocolate....?
Originally Posted by Hot Dogg:
“Think you've pretty well nailed it there BG. Initially when I listened to the Wossy show I thought CT had accidentally let the 'DT leaving' slip. The more I think about it now it seems unlikely they would have told her DT was leaving unless they wanted the info 'out there'. DT leaving at the end of the specials seems about right in terms of 'time served'. Three series and three specials plus 2 christmas episodes seems a pretty good innings and it may be that DT has done all he feels he is going to be allowed to do with the role. We all know that DT has gone on record as saying he loves the role but there comes a time where, even if you love chocolate you get sick of eating it. Perhaps DT has nearly had his fill of chocolate....?”
“Think you've pretty well nailed it there BG. Initially when I listened to the Wossy show I thought CT had accidentally let the 'DT leaving' slip. The more I think about it now it seems unlikely they would have told her DT was leaving unless they wanted the info 'out there'. DT leaving at the end of the specials seems about right in terms of 'time served'. Three series and three specials plus 2 christmas episodes seems a pretty good innings and it may be that DT has done all he feels he is going to be allowed to do with the role. We all know that DT has gone on record as saying he loves the role but there comes a time where, even if you love chocolate you get sick of eating it. Perhaps DT has nearly had his fill of chocolate....?”
just guesswork on my part and it could be so easily be further from the truth..just adding my speculation to the mix.
Originally Posted by Theta Sigma:
“Purely budgetary according to the media section in the grauniad thus stopping future series being cancelled by the bean counters who have wrestled the creatives out.”
“Purely budgetary according to the media section in the grauniad thus stopping future series being cancelled by the bean counters who have wrestled the creatives out.”
I was kicked in the grauniad once and it hurt like hell.
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