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I didn't hear that at all. It's 9pm every week

*sniffles* Does anyone else feel that if Kelly hadn't had to leave we'd have so much more to look forward to next Saturday?

I don't think Kelly would have made the final, personally. Her absolute naked desire to win was almost scary, from day one. She reminded me a little of those awful Same Difference couple on X Factor. Utter desperation. Having said that, I'm very sad for her that her father died.

I don't think they've fixed it at all. Alesha is clearly the best dancer there, and Matt, despite his horrendous hiccup the week before, is clearly a more natural dancer than the talented Gethin.

Let's hope talent wins out and Alesha wins. If she doesn't, then there's something something wrong with the GBP, not a fix.

Dear OFFCOM,

Please can my favorite Gethin Jones be reinstated into the Strictly Come Dancing Competition. He showed his chest on Saturday and burnt a hole in his trousers when doing his Jive. He is so fit and I have voted for him lots of times.

He should definitely be there coz at the end of his amazing paso he got a standing ovation from his bbc friends in the audience.

Plz reinstate Gethin,

Yours, Gethin Fan.

hahahaha!

Claudia will have her normal "Forum Blindness" on this issue. she will NOT raise anything controversial.

The tour personnel having been chosen, they had to have at least ONE in the final.

I think Matt danced superbly tonight. It was a class comeback. He really has moved on from the previous week. Gethin was terrific too but someone had to go. It really was a very classy semi-final.

I don't believe there is a fix (although I can see why not having any finalists on the tour might be slightly embarassing).

However, whether or not you think Matt's dance was worthy of 40 (and that grimace permenantly pasted to his face so you could tell how much he was concentrating spoiled some of the mood of the dance for me), I don't think 40 should ever be awarded anywhere except in the final. It leaves the dancer absolutely no room for improvement,

Matt is now theorectically a perfect dancer. If he gets another 40 next week (and I am sure he will which saddens me because it cheapens the achievements of those who attained 40s in earlier series since Matt is nowhere near the best dancer they ahve had and yet two maximum's would suggest that he is) it's nothing new, if he doesn't then he has taken a step back and actually got worse.

My big problem with Saturday was Len's ovation which I actually found to be apalling. He's nailed his colours to the mast and if I were Gethin and Alesha I would be furious about it.

This is my opinion too. The only way we would possibly find out is if the votes were published. We should know what they all got from the public. This way is no good and smacks of a fix.


I heard it, and I have it on my recording. It was the continuity announcer who said it.

I am sad that Gethin didn't get into the final and deserved to IMO. However I will not be appealing because the continuity announcer supposedly stated voting lines would be open until 9.30. Anybody who watches SCD religiously every week will be aware the voting closes at 9.00 and will vote before that time....as I did.

Have to agree. I'm a Matt and Flavia supporter and I knew there would be a huge backlash if Matt dared to do any good dances and got into the final.

I don't really care if the judges were marking oddly, they have been doing so all season so it rather lends itself to whatever conspiracy theories people want to believe. Well here's mine The judges wanted Alesha in the final (she is the most consistent best dancer). However they didn't want whoever was in 3rd place to have a rubbish score.

If there was overmarking I could say Alesha's AT didn't deserve 10s as it wasn't technically perfect. However I realise that she had much more to do in the AT than Matt and Gethin so Len and Bruno were again being ridiculous and marking on another scale.

Sorry to offend the Gethin supporters but I did think he was the weakest of the three dancers. I thought his AT was much bettter than his Paso but he seemed to have less complex foot choreography than Matt and Alesha. Also I didn't understand Len's 10 for the Paso

Agree with your last paragraph TOTALLY.

If the judges' response to Matt's performances had been a brief 'Well, you've bounced back well' followed by comments on his footwork/posture/moves/whatever, that would have been fine. Instead, the tsunami soap opera of Matt's panic attack grew stronger, so much so that pretty much no critique was offered at all - just hollow fawning about his 'comeback'.

NOTE TO MATT FANS: this is not sour grapes at the result - it's dismay at the judges' lack of ability to do their job. Just so we're all clear ...

Sunday's results show was even worse and at the same time very revealing. While Len got even more over-excited about Matt's 'comeback' (so much so that I'm beginning to wonder if Craig and Bruno have 'converted' him), we saw Gethin's nerves manifest themselves - off-stage, crucially - and Camilla clearly in agony.

Now, call me old fashioned, but I'd've thought the judges, with decades of experience between them, would have had some sense of this, through watching Gethin and Camilla. There was a fluidity missing from Gethin's performance in the paso - but rather than suggest that he needs to overcome the nerves that were obviously hampering his performance, Arlene comes out with one of her more stupid remarks about Spanish omlettes and Rioja.

Even Alesha isn't immune to the Matt soap opera effect: we still have Arlene (again) twittering away about watching her footwork.

And the other revealing moment last night: Craig effectively admitting that he gave Matt a ten for overcoming his nerves. And that's all?

If Gethin has gone, so be it, but what's at the heart of the complaints in this and other threads is the manner in which he's gone. There are now two left, and may the best dancer win next weekend - but the judges, and Len especially, have left an unpleasant aftertaste in their apparent inability to play fair, and apply their professional opinions equally to all contestants. They need to buck their ideas up - and fast.

Matt did what the judges considered to be a perfect dance - that doesn't make him a perfect dancer!

Last week there was an outcry on this forum because Matt escaped the dance-off and got through on public sympathy. We wouldn't have minded, people were saying, if he had earned his place in the semi-final. Apparently the judges were trusted to make the right decision.

This week Matt was in the dance-off and got the judges vote - so now the judges were wrong, or it was fixed!!!!

What do you want to do? Change the judges? Maybe keep changing them until you get the result you want??

Just get the judges to apply the same criteria to every contestant - rather than ignoring one contestant's nerves while at the same time making a drama out of another's.

Easy, really ...

What a strange thread. Did they 'fix' it for Ramps last year, do you reckon? After all, he had several less-than-sizzling outings. Why do you think they decided to 'fix' it this year?
Only last week I seem to remember reading on this forum a theory about the BBC 'fixing' it for Blue Peter's Gethin to win - how fortunate that someone on Digital Spy cottoned on to this, forcing the BBC to change their cunning plan!
Overmarking? This series has been rife with it. Actually, I would say of the three dancers performing this weekend, Matt has received the benefit of being overmarked the least of them. Gethin was the weaker of the two dancers in the dance off (and even Arlene, who voted for him, initially gave him a lower mark than she gave Matt) - on that basis, why shouldn't he go? The judges have to judge the dancers as they are on the night; not as they were last week, otherwise what's the point?
If Kenny and Kate hadn't lingered long after their use-by dates, thus depriving Gabby, John or Penny of the chance to have a 'journey', maybe the final would be different. We have the final we have - may the best dancer win!

Completely agree. Coming at this from a completely neutral point of view, Alesha was by far the best and Matt was second, Gethin actually disappointed me on Saturday, didn't like the paso at all. His AT was fine, but I was completely distracted by the sheer horror of Camilla's dress

The simple fact is that Alesha is by far the best female and deserves the final, and Matt, on form, is the best male dancer and he was on form Saturday (although the 40 was silly), and thereby deserves to be in the final. Leaving aside Kelly's sad withdrawl, the two best dancers have reached the final, and I, for one, am pleased. I'm also pleased Gethin made such progress and enjoyed watching him the last few Saturdays, but Matt was the better dancer, and showed it on Saturday, although it's very sad for Camilla as I feel Gethin was probably her best chance of making the final.

NO they didn't say Matt shouldn't have been there - they said that he should have been in the dance off (not the same thing at all - as much as anything, to have done the dance off might have laid the nerve demons to rest more quickly!).
All these claims of result fixing and the judges being pressurised are pathetic sour grapes.

The difficulty with all of this is that they were dancing different dances - it seems easier to get high scores with a Waltz than with an AT. I'm not saying Matt didn't dance his Waltz well, because he really did, but had Gethin danced his Waltz too ... maybe the outcome would have been different.

You have to laugh dont you???

PMSL

I quite agree

PS Could you also fix it for the EE scriptwriters to have Phil Mitchell duff up Matt as part of the plot because we hate him for beating Gorgeous Gethin and someone please put a spell on Katherine Jenkins so she never sings again as she sucked all the life out of him, so there!:yawn:

Now there's an interesting thought, as bad as claudia's swallow and carry on!

[quote=Cornchips;20132660]Gethin was disconnected tonight and there was no chemistry between him and Camilla - and I have to say Camilla's AT was pretty poor for a professional imo.
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I don't think shes ever done it before so cut some slack. SHe also had an injured neck/shoulder.

IMO it was better then Matt and Flavia's and shes the world champion. Matt stood there like a lemon.

That makes no sense. Alesha had as much or more desire to win than Kelly, as did Gabby. It's not an accident that Alesha has trained more than anyone else!