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Matt was REWARDED for having a bad week last week
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Thriller
16-12-2007
That's how it seemed to me - all the judges did was praise him for his "comeback" so essentially he was rewarded for doing badly last week with overmarking this week.

It's like when you were in school and the naughty kids were sent to Alton Towers as a treat for being well behaved for most of term when all the good pupils are left behind in lessons with piles of homework.
The_abbott
16-12-2007
what can you do??? I think the majority of people noticed it - even my mother.
northern_ch1ck
16-12-2007
Matt was the best on the night in the judges opinion. Nothing more to say about it.
Thriller
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by northern_ch1ck:
“Matt was the best on the night in the judges opinion. Nothing more to say about it.”

Well no, Alesha was because she came top with the judges overall.

I'm complaining more about the fact he was chosen over Gethin to be in the final, when based on last week's performance he should've been out.

It seems to me the judges can just chop and change between voting for a couple based on their overall performances and voting for them based on one good performance when it suits them.
peaches41
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by Thriller:
“That's how it seemed to me - all the judges did was praise him for his "comeback" so essentially he was rewarded for doing badly last week with overmarking this week.

It's like when you were in school and the naughty kids were sent to Alton Towers as a treat for being well behaved for most of term when all the good pupils are left behind in lessons with piles of homework.”

You're spot on there, that's exactly how it is. So if you have a bad week, and forget all your steps, if you dance ok the following week you get 10's. Never mind the poor couples who dance consistently well week after week, and remember their steps.
hiawatha
16-12-2007
Exactly what I thought, they were so surprised he performed quite well that they all went overboard with four tens.
Are they really saying that the waltz they did last night was the best dance of the series so far.

It was close but I thought Gethin deserved to be in the final,
but in any case with 5 dances next week Alesha should win comfortably.

Great series though with lots to discuss so far.
footygirl
16-12-2007
Exactly and that is why the Gethin fans are so mad with the judges who overmarked him
northern_ch1ck
16-12-2007
He was saved by the public last week, and based on THIS WEEKS performance the judges chose to keep him in.
Eternal Life
16-12-2007
Have to agree with that, its a disgrace.
SCD-Observer
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by Thriller:
“That's how it seemed to me - all the judges did was praise him for his "comeback" so essentially he was rewarded for doing badly last week with overmarking this week.

It's like when you were in school and the naughty kids were sent to Alton Towers as a treat for being well behaved for most of term when all the good pupils are left behind in lessons with piles of homework.”

You just created an apparent pro Alesha thread when I can straight away smell the matt, I mean rat.

It didn't take you to show your fox tails?

IMHO, he is NOT overmarked with his waltz. I think it's very moving and technically accomplished performance, one which I would never expected Matt to be able to pull off! I was astounded. I trust Craig's then more than you.
footygirl
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by peaches41:
“You're spot on there, that's exactly how it is. So if you have a bad week, and forget all your steps, if you dance ok the following week you get 10's. Never mind the poor couples who dance consistently well week after week, and remember their steps.”

That's what I have been trying to tell Matt fans on the We've got to do something strand but they are not picking up what I am trying to say to them
Thriller
16-12-2007
I'm allowed to create a pro Alesha thread and an anti Matt thread aren't I? I just didn't want to the two to mix.

Anyway, technically this is an anti judges thread - Matt didn't give himself those scores.
olive0000
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by Eternal Life:
“Have to agree with that, its a disgrace.”


agreed.
gilly16
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by hiawatha:
“Exactly what I thought, they were so surprised he performed quite well that they all went overboard with four tens.
Are they really saying that the waltz they did last night was the best dance of the series so far.

It was close but I thought Gethin deserved to be in the final,
but in any case with 5 dances next week Alesha should win comfortably.

Great series though with lots to discuss so far.”

Completely agree
Sloopy
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by hiawatha:
“Exactly what I thought, they were so surprised he performed quite well that they all went overboard with four tens.
Are they really saying that the waltz they did last night was the best dance of the series so far.”

No way did it deserve four 10s.

The marking has been totally OTT this year, particularly from the usual suspects - naming no names.
SCD-Observer
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by peaches41:
“You're spot on there, that's exactly how it is. So if you have a bad week, and forget all your steps, if you dance ok the following week you get 10's. Never mind the poor couples who dance consistently well week after week, and remember their steps.”

By that do you mean Alesha and Matthew or Gethin and Camilla?

I don't think Gethin deserves the ten for his paso at all! He would have been lucky to get 8 or even 9! So why no complaint over his overmarking then? Because he's been consistently above-average to very good for the past week? He didn't shine last night and that's a FACT. I am sure even Gethin agrees, though I see he's (and Camilla as well) gutted when he is voted out...
Geelong Cat
16-12-2007
I think so too - it was all about the comeback. If he'd danced quite well last week, would he really have gotten 40 for that waltz? It seemed to me that Matt had a shocking week last week and a good week this week, and is through to the final; Gethin had a brilliant week last week and a good week this week, and went out. Still, it pretty well ensures that Aleisha will win next week.
luckyforest
16-12-2007
Matt's footwork in the dance off may be ok (at least he didn't forget) but his face, he was obviously thinking about what go next and not performing the dance. They have no emotional connection what so ever, even Matt's fans can tell I believe. I'm not surprise with Bruno and Len, who are pathetic, I'm just disappointed that Craig put him through over Gethin, and people were saying that Craig has been the best judge so far. It's absolutely disgraceful.
Mariaella
16-12-2007
I tend to agree that Matt was (over)rewarded for his comeback.
footygirl
16-12-2007
Amazing what puppy dog eyes can do isn't it. Matt should have gone last week and not Tish
footygirl
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by luckyforest:
“Matt's footwork in the dance off may be ok (at least he didn't forget) but his face, he was obviously thinking about what go next and not performing the dance. They have no emotional connection what so ever, even Matt's fans can tell I believe. I'm not surprise with Bruno and Len, who are pathetic, I'm just disappointed that Craig put him through over Gethin, and people were saying that Craig has been the best judge so far. It's absolutely disgraceful.”

There have been complaints to the Beeb over it-feel free to join in. More the better
The_abbott
16-12-2007
I really wish that Gethin had gone down the puppy dog eyes look but hes a gentleman. PLays fair. As does Camilla, if she was in pain she carried on without going awww every 5 minutes
The_abbott
16-12-2007
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“There have been complaints to the Beeb over it-feel free to join in. More the better”

Matt always does that - he thinks ahead not about the actual foot hes doing. And no sexual chemistry
The Prumeister
16-12-2007
No way did Matt deserve that OTT score - he was NOT foot perfect - and only a technically perfect performance should get such a score IMHO.
*I_love_greg*
16-12-2007
Couldn't agree more. The judges are meant to be professional and should judge everyone on the same level - taking that into account Alesha two dances should've had straight tens and probably at least one of Gethins too - at least compared with Matts.
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