Foie Gras

french fancy · 17-12-2007, 20:33

Do any or the major supermarkets stock it?

Thanks.

StressMonkey · 17-12-2007, 20:44

I think Waitrose does.

I also believe they have developed a 'cruelty free' foie gras - one of the supermarkets has.

It is nigh on impossible to get the proper stuff now. It's all factory farmed and is both cruel and nothing compared to the real 'free range' stuff. Though it must be said, even the free range stuff still involves force feeding a goose. Though it is yummy

17-12-2007, 20:53

I would never eat or buy it. They way it is produced is so cruel

I would be glad if none of our supermarkets stocked it.

frogboy · 17-12-2007, 20:55

It is incredibly cruel.

wallaroo · 17-12-2007, 20:57

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Originally Posted by frogboy

It is incredibly cruel.

What is it?

innocent. · 17-12-2007, 20:59

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Originally Posted by frogboy

It is incredibly cruel.

I can remember seeing film of the methods used when I was really young and the image has stayed with me ever since.

ianx · 17-12-2007, 21:02

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Originally Posted by wallaroo

What is it?

It's nummy. <drools>

frogboy · 17-12-2007, 21:04

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Originally Posted by wallaroo

What is it?

It's the fattened liver of a duck or goose force fed by a tube straight into it's stomach.

dome · 17-12-2007, 21:04

I wouldn't buy it, but have eaten and been given it many times and it is delicious.

Vite.dfeemtoon · 17-12-2007, 21:06

Ethically, I think the free-range stuff is OK to eat because the birds naturally gorge themselves in preparation for winter making their livers fatty to see them through colder times - or so I'm told. Didn't the Romans notice them doing this and just helped the process along by force feeding the birds?

It is undeniably cruel but also undeniably delicious. I don't like it cooked particularly as it can turn into a slick quite easily.

wallaroo · 17-12-2007, 21:06

Omg, Ive just watched a video about it, Its disgusting and so cruel, How could anyone enjoy eating this!

hooter · 17-12-2007, 21:07

There must be other stuff you can eat? It`s so cruel!

Vite.dfeemtoon · 17-12-2007, 21:09

This might appease those against it and answer the OP's question: http://www.talkingretail.com/news/76...lty-free.ehtml

StressMonkey · 17-12-2007, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Vite.dfeemtoon

This might appease those against it and answer the OP's question: http://www.talkingretail.com/news/76...lty-free.ehtml

I was half right then - it is Waitrose that does the 'cruelty free' version.

Shiny for StressMonkey

Vite.dfeemtoon · 17-12-2007, 21:26

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Originally Posted by StressMonkey

I was half right then - it is Waitrose that does the 'cruelty free' version.

Shiny for StressMonkey

Yay, StressMonkey! Well-spotted. Will you be buying some now that you know it's not produced the horrible way? Must say I'm tempted.

LaurieMarlow · 17-12-2007, 21:28

Just a question for all those who have stated that it's cruel. Do you eat battery chicken? (And that includes just about any chicken eaten in a restaurant, fast food place, or sandwich joint.) Because IMO that's far more cruel. And it takes place on a much, much larger scale.

StressMonkey · 17-12-2007, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Vite.dfeemtoon

Yay, StressMonkey! Well-spotted. Will you be buying some now that you know it's not produced the horrible way? Must say I'm tempted.

I am tempted. The free range is soooo expensive and I wouldn't touch the factory farmed sh!t. Mmm. Have to give it a go.

StressMonkey · 17-12-2007, 21:41

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Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow

Just a question for all those who have stated that it's cruel. Do you eat battery chicken? (And that includes just about any chicken eaten in a restaurant, fast food place, or sandwich joint.) Because IMO that's far more cruel. And it takes place on a much, much larger scale.

No, I don't eat battery farmed chicken.

But, imagine battery farmed chickens being force fed through a tube down the throat. That is what commercial foie gras production is, except with geese. So, actually, factory farmed foie gras is more cruel. Though, yes, on a smaller scale.

itsalltelly · 17-12-2007, 21:45

Isn't all 'factory' farming cruel? Even with organic/free range farming the animal still meets a premature end

LaurieMarlow · 17-12-2007, 21:58

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Originally Posted by StressMonkey

No, I don't eat battery farmed chicken.

But, imagine battery farmed chickens being force fed through a tube down the throat. That is what commercial foie gras production is, except with geese. So, actually, factory farmed foie gras is more cruel. Though, yes, on a smaller scale.

Battery chicken farming in this country and beyond is a total disgrace, imagine being cooped up without even having enough room to turn around, with legs not strong enough to support your body weight because of lack of exercise, the result of which is that the chicken sits in a pool of its own excrement all day. In some instances, they even weld off their beaks to stop them attacking another in frustration.

I'm not saying that foie gras production is not cruel, but according to reports (including Hugh Fernley Whittingstall's, for whom I have a lot of respect) if done humanely, the geese actually enjoy it and queue up for their turn. Which makes sense, because what they are doing is over eating, which many of us enjoy, at least at the time, even if it isn't good for us.

Foie gras production is an easy target because the market is so small. Battery chicken farming is a massive, powerful, industry and has a much more significant effect on the economy. So it's not in the government's interest to encourage criticism.

My moral is boycott all battery chicken, but you are doing that anyway

innocent. · 17-12-2007, 22:15

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Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow

Just a question for all those who have stated that it's cruel. Do you eat battery chicken? (And that includes just about any chicken eaten in a restaurant, fast food place, or sandwich joint.) Because IMO that's far more cruel. And it takes place on a much, much larger scale.

No I don't. no meat at all.

frogboy · 17-12-2007, 22:27

I'm veggie

StressMonkey · 17-12-2007, 22:31

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Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow

Battery chicken farming in this country and beyond is a total disgrace, imagine being cooped up without even having enough room to turn around, with legs not strong enough to support your body weight because of lack of exercise, the result of which is that the chicken sits in a pool of its own excrement all day. In some instances, they even weld off their beaks to stop them attacking another in frustration.

I'm not saying that foie gras production is not cruel, but according to reports (including Hugh Fernley Whittingstall's, for whom I have a lot of respect) if done humanely, the geese actually enjoy it and queue up for their turn. Which makes sense, because what they are doing is over eating, which many of us enjoy, at least at the time, even if it isn't good for us.

Foie gras production is an easy target because the market is so small. Battery chicken farming is a massive, powerful, industry and has a much more significant effect on the economy. So it's not in the government's interest to encourage criticism.

My moral is boycott all battery chicken, but you are doing that anyway

The Hugh Fernley Whittingstall style foie gras is what I refer to as 'free range'. The geese are force fed, but in a 'kinder' way.

What I am talking about as cruel is exactly the conditions you describe about chicken, except with the added cruelty of a tube down the throat and so over fed that the liver is bloated to the point of added suffering to the goose. It produces a much cheaper, but much, much inferior product. It may be an easy target, but a legitimate one.

Caxton · 17-12-2007, 23:18

Christmas is coming the geese are getting fat should make a load of foie gras from that

french fancy · 17-12-2007, 23:35

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Originally Posted by wallaroo

Omg, Ive just watched a video about it, Its disgusting and so cruel, How could anyone enjoy eating this!

It's easy, it tastes great.

17-12-2007, 20:33	#1
french fancy Banned User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	Foie Gras Do any or the major supermarkets stock it? Thanks.

17-12-2007, 20:44	#2
StressMonkey Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,776	I think Waitrose does. I also believe they have developed a 'cruelty free' foie gras - one of the supermarkets has. It is nigh on impossible to get the proper stuff now. It's all factory farmed and is both cruel and nothing compared to the real 'free range' stuff. Though it must be said, even the free range stuff still involves force feeding a goose. Though it is yummy

17-12-2007, 20:53	#3
Ms Honey Posts: n/a	I would never eat or buy it. They way it is produced is so cruel I would be glad if none of our supermarkets stocked it.

17-12-2007, 20:55	#4
frogboy Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 29	It is incredibly cruel.

17-12-2007, 20:57	#5
wallaroo Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Colchester Posts: 1,390	Quote: Originally Posted by frogboy It is incredibly cruel. What is it?

17-12-2007, 20:59	#6
innocent. Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,738	Quote: Originally Posted by frogboy It is incredibly cruel. I can remember seeing film of the methods used when I was really young and the image has stayed with me ever since.

17-12-2007, 21:02	#7
ianx Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bordertown Posts: 7,781	Quote: Originally Posted by wallaroo What is it? It's nummy. <drools>

17-12-2007, 21:04	#8
frogboy Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 29	Quote: Originally Posted by wallaroo What is it? It's the fattened liver of a duck or goose force fed by a tube straight into it's stomach.

17-12-2007, 21:04	#9
dome Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 52,176	I wouldn't buy it, but have eaten and been given it many times and it is delicious.

17-12-2007, 21:06	#10
Vite.dfeemtoon Banned User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,083	Ethically, I think the free-range stuff is OK to eat because the birds naturally gorge themselves in preparation for winter making their livers fatty to see them through colder times - or so I'm told. Didn't the Romans notice them doing this and just helped the process along by force feeding the birds? It is undeniably cruel but also undeniably delicious. I don't like it cooked particularly as it can turn into a slick quite easily.

17-12-2007, 21:07	#12
hooter Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,736	There must be other stuff you can eat? It`s so cruel!

17-12-2007, 21:09	#13
Vite.dfeemtoon Banned User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,083	This might appease those against it and answer the OP's question: http://www.talkingretail.com/news/76...lty-free.ehtml

17-12-2007, 21:17	#14
StressMonkey Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,776	Quote: Originally Posted by Vite.dfeemtoon This might appease those against it and answer the OP's question: http://www.talkingretail.com/news/76...lty-free.ehtml I was half right then - it is Waitrose that does the 'cruelty free' version. Shiny for StressMonkey

17-12-2007, 21:26	#15
Vite.dfeemtoon Banned User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,083	Quote: Originally Posted by StressMonkey I was half right then - it is Waitrose that does the 'cruelty free' version. Shiny for StressMonkey Yay, StressMonkey! Well-spotted. Will you be buying some now that you know it's not produced the horrible way? Must say I'm tempted.

17-12-2007, 21:28	#16
LaurieMarlow Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,894	Just a question for all those who have stated that it's cruel. Do you eat battery chicken? (And that includes just about any chicken eaten in a restaurant, fast food place, or sandwich joint.) Because IMO that's far more cruel. And it takes place on a much, much larger scale.

17-12-2007, 21:38	#17
StressMonkey Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,776	Quote: Originally Posted by Vite.dfeemtoon Yay, StressMonkey! Well-spotted. Will you be buying some now that you know it's not produced the horrible way? Must say I'm tempted. I am tempted. The free range is soooo expensive and I wouldn't touch the factory farmed sh!t. Mmm. Have to give it a go.

17-12-2007, 21:41	#18
StressMonkey Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,776	Quote: Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow Just a question for all those who have stated that it's cruel. Do you eat battery chicken? (And that includes just about any chicken eaten in a restaurant, fast food place, or sandwich joint.) Because IMO that's far more cruel. And it takes place on a much, much larger scale. No, I don't eat battery farmed chicken. But, imagine battery farmed chickens being force fed through a tube down the throat. That is what commercial foie gras production is, except with geese. So, actually, factory farmed foie gras is more cruel. Though, yes, on a smaller scale.

17-12-2007, 21:45	#19
itsalltelly Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dover and Bluebell Hill Posts: 1,454	Isn't all 'factory' farming cruel? Even with organic/free range farming the animal still meets a premature end

17-12-2007, 21:58	#20
LaurieMarlow Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,894	Quote: Originally Posted by StressMonkey No, I don't eat battery farmed chicken. But, imagine battery farmed chickens being force fed through a tube down the throat. That is what commercial foie gras production is, except with geese. So, actually, factory farmed foie gras is more cruel. Though, yes, on a smaller scale. Battery chicken farming in this country and beyond is a total disgrace, imagine being cooped up without even having enough room to turn around, with legs not strong enough to support your body weight because of lack of exercise, the result of which is that the chicken sits in a pool of its own excrement all day. In some instances, they even weld off their beaks to stop them attacking another in frustration. I'm not saying that foie gras production is not cruel, but according to reports (including Hugh Fernley Whittingstall's, for whom I have a lot of respect) if done humanely, the geese actually enjoy it and queue up for their turn. Which makes sense, because what they are doing is over eating, which many of us enjoy, at least at the time, even if it isn't good for us. Foie gras production is an easy target because the market is so small. Battery chicken farming is a massive, powerful, industry and has a much more significant effect on the economy. So it's not in the government's interest to encourage criticism. My moral is boycott all battery chicken, but you are doing that anyway

17-12-2007, 22:15	#21
innocent. Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,738	Quote: Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow Just a question for all those who have stated that it's cruel. Do you eat battery chicken? (And that includes just about any chicken eaten in a restaurant, fast food place, or sandwich joint.) Because IMO that's far more cruel. And it takes place on a much, much larger scale. No I don't. no meat at all.

17-12-2007, 22:27	#22
frogboy Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 29	I'm veggie

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Foie Gras

17-12-2007, 22:31	#23
StressMonkey Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,776	Quote: Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow Battery chicken farming in this country and beyond is a total disgrace, imagine being cooped up without even having enough room to turn around, with legs not strong enough to support your body weight because of lack of exercise, the result of which is that the chicken sits in a pool of its own excrement all day. In some instances, they even weld off their beaks to stop them attacking another in frustration. I'm not saying that foie gras production is not cruel, but according to reports (including Hugh Fernley Whittingstall's, for whom I have a lot of respect) if done humanely, the geese actually enjoy it and queue up for their turn. Which makes sense, because what they are doing is over eating, which many of us enjoy, at least at the time, even if it isn't good for us. Foie gras production is an easy target because the market is so small. Battery chicken farming is a massive, powerful, industry and has a much more significant effect on the economy. So it's not in the government's interest to encourage criticism. My moral is boycott all battery chicken, but you are doing that anyway The Hugh Fernley Whittingstall style foie gras is what I refer to as 'free range'. The geese are force fed, but in a 'kinder' way. What I am talking about as cruel is exactly the conditions you describe about chicken, except with the added cruelty of a tube down the throat and so over fed that the liver is bloated to the point of added suffering to the goose. It produces a much cheaper, but much, much inferior product. It may be an easy target, but a legitimate one.

17-12-2007, 23:18	#24
Caxton Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 24,065	Christmas is coming the geese are getting fat should make a load of foie gras from that

17-12-2007, 23:35	#25
french fancy Banned User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	Quote: Originally Posted by wallaroo Omg, Ive just watched a video about it, Its disgusting and so cruel, How could anyone enjoy eating this! It's easy, it tastes great.