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How Long Do You Give Leon Before His Career Dies?
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bremmy
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by nazahm87:
“Oh come on darling, I'm a Rhydian fan and I really think we should give more credit to Leon! Personally I think he has a lovely voice and he really impressed me with his version of 'Long&Winding Road' which could have easily gone sooo badly for him. He surprised me and he may yet still do by being around for decades yet

Only time will tell of course, but lets not write him off before hes even began...thats just mean ”

Are you absolutely sure you were watching the same show?
SunriseSunset
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by Linzee81:
“What time is it now?.......

Id give him till about half past 4.”

Behave!
nazahm87
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“Are you absolutely sure you were watching the same show?”

Lol yes im sure I was!

Im guessing you thought differently then?? Fair enough but it did impress me, as did his version of 'You Don't Know Me' you must understand though, Rhydian moved me to tears with practically every single performance...so he just wins...
bremmy
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by nazahm87:
“Lol yes im sure I was!

Im guessing you thought differently then?? Fair enough but it did impress me, as did his version of 'You Don't Know Me' you must understand though, Rhydian moved me to tears with practically every single performance...so he just wins...”

I know what you mean about Rhydian's performance's i was in floods of tears...of how on earth he got so far

In all seriousness though I can appreciate your comments about Leon but even you must see that he will have a short lived career.
The Prumeister
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“I'm going for 1 year 6 months purely because he is now contracted for a year before he will get dumped like all the others by Simon's minions.

And all the silly people on the Appreciation Thread should feel ashamed that they are all playing a part in giving this poor guy false hope he is really THAT good!”



2 years max.
MARTYM8
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“Absolutely! But at least they have some charisma or presence.”

In your opinion - however there must be lots of people who also think Leon has these attributes as he got most votes!

As I always remind people - Leon probably sings better than anyone in the Spice Girls Boyzone or Westlife (who are universally slagged off by the music intelligentsia) and they have done rather well for themselves.

Let's wait and see - Leon may just scoop a whole lots of fans and be around for a few years. Posting nasty thread titles like this won't change that!
suecheltenham
18-12-2007
He will last about 5 minutes after SC stops making money off him.
nblyth
18-12-2007
His career wont get off the ground - he will be Xmas No 1 and then get forgotten about once the TV hype dies down. He was very boring to listen too with no charisma or personality - more to point how many times will he cry in the next year and say "i cant believe it"

I think we all know Rhydian is the one who will make all the money as he had more talent than Leon and Same Difference put together. Rhydian did not need to win to be successful but Leon did. They talk about the winner of X Factor being a complete package well what is leons ? He might be good looking for the ladies and have half decent voice but where is his personality ? non existent.
jigsawjake
18-12-2007
forgotten him already.
mutleygold
18-12-2007
He won't have a career.
pierre_gustave
18-12-2007
This is all so tiresome now:yawn:
nblyth
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by pierre_gustave:
“This is all so tiresome now:yawn:”

Please someone tell this person what a "Discussion Forum" means.......there is only one thing getting tiresome in every thread i have read today. Do i need to give a hint ?
babeth
18-12-2007
Professionalism is the word thrown around why Rhydian should not have won. Frankly I find it a contradiction.

Oh dear, I am shaking right now and am a so called professional.

Leon would have to learn by trial and error, hopefully those around him will spend a decent amount of money to get him nearer this so called 'professional' position.

Thinking about it Rhydian is not even a professional yet as he is not rewarded for his craft. So maybe the idea of acting like a professional puts him in a position of not winning so that poor young Leon who has no idea what it means to be professional deserved to win so that he can become a professional just like Rhydian. If you get my drift. I am amazed by this thinking. Only this time with a one million pound contract. Whatever that means.

I sincerely want Leon to do well but I feel that some people only want to believe that he will be successful because of winning. It takes a lot of work for the so called professional and non-professional to succeed equally.

With the media and fans/non fans going frantic with the 'fix' and who should have won. Does it really matter really? For me NO. It is what is done with the opportunities given that will bring success.

Remember these reality shows are not what they seem most of the time. We are all manipulated and sometimes blackmailed into what they want us to believe and see. So its all about perception. May I add its more soap opera than about talent. Maybe Rhydian can write and play lead in a westend/broadway show about it. It will be fun.

I think that all three finalisit should be grateful that at least they had exposure- maybe at the expense of their intergrity and talent but with great people behind them they will be successful in the end.

And yes I am a Rhydian fan. And I believe he has more to gain not because of this 'professional bollocks' but determination, talent and hard work.

Regards

Babeth
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Jennyloo
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“I'm going for 1 year 6 months purely because he is now contracted for a year before he will get dumped like all the others by Simon's minions.

And all the silly people on the Appreciation Thread should feel ashamed that they are all playing a part in giving this poor guy false hope he is really THAT good!”

What alot of saddows on this forum. So bitter and twisted. Leon was ace on GM tv and his rendition of the single is brilliant. He had me in tears. Its the best one they've written - a very Christmasy feel to it. Rhydian is dull and boring pretty miuch like this lot on here.
Any one know of another forum that has more sense than this one.
mitacond
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by phonix:
“About 4 months with the contract being cancelled then”

Do you think so? wow
Jennyloo
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by nblyth:
“His career wont get off the ground - he will be Xmas No 1 and then get forgotten about once the TV hype dies down. He was very boring to listen too with no charisma or personality - more to point how many times will he cry in the next year and say "i cant believe it"

I think we all know Rhydian is the one who will make all the money as he had more talent than Leon and Same Difference put together. Rhydian did not need to win to be successful but Leon did. They talk about the winner of X Factor being a complete package well what is leons ? He might be good looking for the ladies and have half decent voice but where is his personality ? non existent.”

Hes only 18 give him time. I remember seeing clips of a young FRank Sinatra. He looked lost behind a mike in his early days. but look at the ledgend he became.
Leon has a soul to his great voice and you lot will eat your words.
Richie-Rich
18-12-2007
After his album is released he is finished.

Ray Quinn anyone?
mitacond
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“Hes only 18 give him time. I remember seeing clips of a young FRank Sinatra. He looked lost behind a mike in his early days. but look at the ledgend he became.
Leon has a soul to his great voice and you lot will eat your words.”

Fortunately Sinatra had charisma. No amout of experience can give you that.
nblyth
18-12-2007
I dont dislike Leon i just did not find his music interesting one bit, but that is my taste. He will struggle simply because he only captured around 35% of the entire X Factor Viewers votes which when calculated is not a lot to base a career on. Leona Lewis hit almost double this figure last year but had natural talent. Leon is very raw still and time will tell if he can pick up fans all around the country and Europe, me thinks not but time will tell. Lets not go mad just because Michael Bubbles loved the guy to bits, lets face it what does he know about decent music ?
mitacond
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by nblyth:
“I dont dislike Leon i just did not find his music interesting one bit, but that is my taste. He will struggle simply because he only captured around 35% of the entire X Factor Viewers votes which when calculated is not a lot to base a career on. Leona Lewis hit almost double this figure last year but had natural talent. Leon is very raw still and time will tell if he can pick up fans all around the country and Europe, me thinks not but time will tell. Lets not go mad just because Michael Bubbles loved the guy to bits, lets face it what does he know about decent music ?”

I think Leon is going to have to do an enormous amout of work until his album is release in 8 months time.
nblyth
18-12-2007
Talking of past losers i thought i would take quick look and who knew the following all produced albums this year......Ray Quinn sold 200,000 and went to No 1 in Albums Chart - must have missed that one to be honest.

Ben Mills sold 100,000 and got to No 3 Albums Chart

MacDonald Brothers sold 15,000 and reached No 18 Albums Chart.

Leona Lewis 1.4million 3 x Platinum hmmm

Even Shane Ward;s First Album only sold 480,000 so shows how good Leona is !
xx~KC~xx
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“In other words let the publics dislike calm down while he send him off for training - not just in his voice but also in his personality. Then bring him back halfway through the next series so he can use that as a platform to give him national TV coverage and sell more records.”

Going by that logic you would have to imply the same about Leona. I don't think, IMO, Leona needed national TV Coverage to sell more records, though it did likely help her make that million sales.
ForGodsSake
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“I'm going for 1 year 6 months purely because he is now contracted for a year before he will get dumped like all the others by Simon's minions.

And all the silly people on the Appreciation Thread should feel ashamed that they are all playing a part in giving this poor guy false hope he is really THAT good!”

43 days and 6 hours.
ForGodsSake
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by nblyth:
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Even Shane Ward;s First Album only sold 480,000 so shows how good Leona is !”

Not neccesarily.....

My daughter bought it and we listened to it and it's atrocious.

We've given it to the Kids christmas appeal.
ForGodsSake
18-12-2007
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“Leon has a soul to his great voice and you lot will eat your words.”


yeah right.
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