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How Long Do You Give Leon Before His Career Dies?
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Patti-Ann
19-12-2007
The MacDonalds are doing very well in Scotland

Leon could very well go the same way
Motown lover
19-12-2007
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“The MacDonalds are doing very well in Scotland

Leon could very well go the same way”

Glad to hear the MacDonalds are still going strong.
d0lphin
19-12-2007
I don't know about a time scale but I think he will be dropped by his record company after the first album (unfortunatley they are obligated to do one) and only be heard of again in Scotland a la Macdonalds and Michelle McManus (sorry Scots!)
paris147
19-12-2007
1 album and then " he will be in the studio or writing" then he will pop up on im a celebrity in the jungle in 2 years.

Personally i think this will completely mess him up when the inivitiable happens to him. Its a bit mean giving him false hope.

What ever happened to that girl who won Pop Idiol -Michelle McManus . she could sing if i recall correctly
Motown lover
19-12-2007
Originally Posted by Motown lover:
“I agree! However, I do think he will continue his career (on a smaller scale), in Scotland. Don't think he'll ever go back to his old job. Leon might even become a presenter, in Scotland.

The Scottish always support their acts. Remember Ray Wilson - Lead singer of Stiltskin. He continues to perform in Scotland and Europe. The Scottish & European press continue to support him too.

ps
I am a fan of the beautiful, talented songwriter/singer Ray Wilson. If anyone wants to hear his new material, I'll put his website link up. Let me know if you're interested. ”

Can I just add, Ray Wilson has written a song about talent shows like X-Factor. It's called, "Fame" have a listen.

www.raywilson.net/2006/audio/index.htm
welwynrose
20-12-2007
I'd be suprised if he's still around in a years time - I think he'll be quietly dropped by the record company at some stage over the next 12 months
stargirl 2
20-12-2007
just give the lad a chance, he needs time to hes very young very inexperienced, if hes given the right people to work with him who knows what the future could bring.

Leon as a lovely warm tone to his voice and given the right material has a potential to do very well.

i just hope hes not reading any of the negativity thats being said about him and his future at the moment its not what he neeeds right now.
Toxic Lemon
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by paris147:
“1 album and then " he will be in the studio or writing" then he will pop up on im a celebrity in the jungle in 2 years.

Personally i think this will completely mess him up when the inivitiable happens to him. Its a bit mean giving him false hope.

What ever happened to that girl who won Pop Idiol -Michelle McManus . she could sing if i recall correctly”

Michelle McManus has created her own record label thanks to the small fortune she has amassed from a number of wise property investments.
coda
20-12-2007
Can we forecast at this point? He isn't even the official no.1 yet.

If we are being mean-spirited there's no point in this thread, but if we want sensible suggestions, thoughts....

I would say more popular/successful than Steve Brookstein, but less than Shayne Ward.

Big numbers on the first album, but a disappointing follow up. No third album.
SylviaB
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by bremmy:
“Absolutely! But at least they have some charisma or presence.”

I really can't understand the some people... yet another thread to try and belittle Leon!!

Leon has something really special that Rhydian just does not have... and that is warmth, humility, compassion and the ability to sing any type of song. He has a natural singing ability as has been shown these past few months, considering he only began singing in January this year and hasn't had any singing lessons.

I'm sure that once Leon is taught how best to use his voice and is allowed sufficient time to make his first album, as Leona was, he'll be very successful. After all, how many young people have gone from working in Gap to singing duets with their idol at Wembly and everyone's favourite female singer in such a short time? What a dream start for such a lovely young man!
Chi
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by SylviaB:
“I really can't understand the some people... yet another thread to try and belittle Leon!!

Leon has something really special that Rhydian just does not have... and that is warmth, humility, compassion and the ability to sing any type of song. He has a natural singing ability as has been shown these past few months, considering he only began singing in January this year and hasn't had any singing lessons.

I'm sure that once Leon is taught how best to use his voice and is allowed sufficient time to make his first album, as Leona was, he'll be very successful. After all, how many young people have gone from working in Gap to singing duets with their idol at Wembly and everyone's favourite female singer in such a short time? What a dream start for such a lovely young man!”

I was going to agree with your first sentence, but then read the second one, that you are using to belittling Rhydian...
I would have agreed I you had removed the ' that Rhydian does not have' bit . Was this really necessary?
satellite
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“Hes only 18 give him time. I remember seeing clips of a young FRank Sinatra. He looked lost behind a mike in his early days. but look at the ledgend he became.”


Old Blue Eyes was a one-off, sorry but no way can anyone compare the two, Leon will sink faster than the Titanic.
Mulett
20-12-2007
More than Ray but less than Gareth Gates.
SylviaB
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Chi:
“I was going to agree with your first sentence, but then read the second one, that you are using to belittling Rhydian...
I would have agreed I you had removed the ' that Rhydian does not have' bit . Was this really necessary?”

I just found Rhydian to be very 'cold' and I know I'm not alone in this! And after seeing that before he sings he walks around wearing a black balaclava.... the mind boggles!
phonix
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by SylviaB:
“I really can't understand the some people... yet another thread to try and belittle Leon!!

Leon has something really special that Rhydian just does not have... and that is warmth, humility, compassion and the ability to sing any type of song. He has a natural singing ability as has been shown these past few months, considering he only began singing in January this year and hasn't had any singing lessons.

I'm sure that once Leon is taught how best to use his voice and is allowed sufficient time to make his first album, as Leona was, he'll be very successful. After all, how many young people have gone from working in Gap to singing duets with their idol at Wembly and everyone's favourite female singer in such a short time? What a dream start for such a lovely young man!”

1. Mother teresa had those qualities, as do many other people- dosent mean they can sing or have the x factor though

2. Leon can do swing and a bit of disco. Rhydian can do opera, show songs, ballads and anthems so I am not really sure what your point is.

3. Leon shouldnt need to be "taught how best to use his voice"- he has just won x factor- surely this admission that he needs trained is evidence in itself that you recognise he wasnt the strongest singer- nikki, rhyd, Bev, SD wouldnt need such training
Patti-Ann
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“More than Ray but less than Gareth Gates.”


Leon has less than both
Queen Maeve
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by phonix:
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3. Leon shouldnt need to be "taught how best to use his voice"- he has just won x factor- surely this admission that he needs trained is evidence in itself that you recognise he wasnt the strongest singer- nikki, rhyd, Bev, SD wouldnt need such training”

Well maybe they should just go to all the stage schools, music colleges and agents in the country and just ask for people with X amount of training/experience to audition.

Oops forgot they probably do that..didn't Leona go to Italia Conti, Brit School etc
Motown lover
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Toxic Lemon:
“Michelle McManus has created her own record label thanks to the small fortune she has amassed from a number of wise property investments. ”

That can happen too. Ray Wilson has his own record label, and a very expensive basement studio.

Good luck to her.
phonix
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Queen Maeve:
“Well maybe they should just go to all the stage schools, music colleges and agents in the country and just ask for people with X amount of training/experience to audition.

Oops forgot they probably do that..didn't Leona go to Italia Conti, Brit School etc”

I dont care about what others have done. Surely the essential ingredient to x factor is having a winner that can sing to a good standard and not be nervous/ crying/ singing out of tune after the award has been given. It just confirms that Leon won more on sob story than talent
Uncle Fester
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by padrinomatt:
“yeah but on the other hand, if it wasn't for this board I would just be a casual Leon fan. Because of the rubbish I've been reading on here the past 3 days, I'm now a die-hard and will buy every single thing he releases!!”

Make the most of them as they will be so rare that they may become collectors items in years to come , How do I know , I was a Talent show judge and Talent spotter for a number of agents , he just has not got what it takes to be big
Motown lover
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Uncle Fester:
“Make the most of them as they will be so rare that they may become collectors items in years to come , How do I know , I was a Talent show judge and Talent spotter for a number of agents , he just has not got what it takes to be big”

Uncle Fester, were you really a talent spotter? If so, please tell me what you think of Ray Wilson?
babeth
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Uncle Fester:
“Make the most of them as they will be so rare that they may become collectors items in years to come , How do I know , I was a Talent show judge and Talent spotter for a number of agents , he just has not got what it takes to be big”

Uncle fester,

What does it takes to be big? It would be interesting to know. Thanks

Babeth
Uncle Fester
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Motown lover:
“Uncle Fester, were you really a talent spotter? If so, please tell me what you think of Ray Wilson? ”

I have finished doing it now , but give me a link to his music and I will have a look , I will get back after the holiday
Last edited by Uncle Fester : 20-12-2007 at 19:09
Motown lover
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by Uncle Fester:
“I have finished doing it now , but give me a link to his music and I will have a look , I will get back after the holiday”

Thanks
I'll pm you.
Uncle Fester
20-12-2007
Originally Posted by babeth:
“Uncle fester,

What does it takes to be big? It would be interesting to know. Thanks

Babeth”

Singers need to look good , sing better , sometimes a gimmick helps ( dress wise )
Comedians need to be able to get a laugh without resorting to bad language as most of them finish up doing the holiday camps ,
Novelty Acts need to be bright , exciting material , good stage presence , also a bit of danger goes down well ,

All acts must be able to make a bad/tough audience stop their talking and concentrate on you , If you can't do the last thing most of the time you should consider your future
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