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Same could be said about rhydian, or SD.
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I really can't understand the some people... yet another thread to try and belittle Leon!!
Leon has something really special that Rhydian just does not have... and that is warmth, humility, compassion and the ability to sing any type of song. He has a natural singing ability as has been shown these past few months, considering he only began singing in January this year and hasn't had any singing lessons. I'm sure that once Leon is taught how best to use his voice and is allowed sufficient time to make his first album, as Leona was, he'll be very successful. After all, how many young people have gone from working in Gap to singing duets with their idol at Wembly and everyone's favourite female singer in such a short time? What a dream start for such a lovely young man! As for what we as human beings find warm,humble and compassionate it depends on human perceptions and sensibilities. As you further indicated that Rhydian is cold. To you but not to millions of people who find him to have all the descriptions of Leon. Also I have to include charisma, star quality and a winning personality. Millions of people cannnot be wrong its their taste. As for the abilty of Leon to sing any type of songs that is just not true and you know it. Yes perhaps he can sing but his singing is geared towards swng/jazz type songs and thats how it sounds all the time. For me he has a fantastic karaoke mimicry ability which I do not consider natural but millions of people like. To be honest with you I do not want to listen to the next, sound like, answer to, Buble/Sinatra. I could refer to those cd's. What I want is originality and uniqueness and that person for the first time of X-factor is Rhydian for many of us. In my opinion he has a warm chocolate baritone voice which oozes emotions and appeals to millions of people. We cannot tell who is going to be very successful. But time will tell. But please remember everybody has different taste buds. What I find cold you will find hot. This is why there are so many petty arguments because we are all different and people should just respect that. ![]() Regards Babeth |
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Singers need to look good , sing better , sometimes a gimmick helps ( dress wise )
Comedians need to be able to get a laugh without resorting to bad language as most of them finish up doing the holiday camps , Novelty Acts need to be bright , exciting material , good stage presence , also a bit of danger goes down well , All acts must be able to make a bad/tough audience stop their talking and concentrate on you , If you can't do the last thing most of the time you should consider your future But where they are differ is that Rhydian had the ability to draw people in and become mismerise by his presence. I guess that is whats called charisma, stage presence and star quality. Even my hip-hop loving son and his friends said that they have not seen anything like him for a long time. Well, ITV has him to thank because he did bring in the ratings and was the talk of the media and people alike. Thanks for that. Babeth |
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I think most of the things you have said at the begining all of the x factor finalist had.
But where they are differ is that Rhydian had the ability to draw people in and become mismerise by his presence. I guess that is whats called charisma, stage presence and star quality. Even my hip-hop loving son and his friends said that they have not seen anything like him for a long time. Well, ITV has him to thank because he did bring in the ratings and was the talk of the media and people alike. Thanks for that. Babeth Rhydians contract is far more flexible and permits him to take the lead role in ALW musicals. |
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It's really quite bizarre that anyone would feel the compulsion to start a thread like this. If Leon really was as crap as is believed, then his career won't get off the ground at all. Why are you worrying?
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It's really quite bizarre that anyone would feel the compulsion to start a thread like this. If Leon really was as crap as is believed, then his career won't get off the ground at all. Why are you worrying?
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But Shayne Ward [yuck] and Leona Lewis had something that Leon is lacking i.e. talent
![]() But Shayne Ward and Leona Lewis[yuck] had something that Leon is lacking i.e. talent
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But Shayne Ward and Leona Lewis[yuck] had something that Leon is lacking i.e. talent
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I'm going for 1 year 6 months purely because he is now contracted for a year before he will get dumped like all the others by Simon's minions.
And all the silly people on the Appreciation Thread should feel ashamed that they are all playing a part in giving this poor guy false hope he is really THAT good! Quote:
Professionalism is the word thrown around why Rhydian should not have won. Frankly I find it a contradiction.
Oh dear, I am shaking right now and am a so called professional. Leon would have to learn by trial and error, hopefully those around him will spend a decent amount of money to get him nearer this so called 'professional' position. Thinking about it Rhydian is not even a professional yet as he is not rewarded for his craft. So maybe the idea of acting like a professional puts him in a position of not winning so that poor young Leon who has no idea what it means to be professional deserved to win so that he can become a professional just like Rhydian. If you get my drift. I am amazed by this thinking. Only this time with a one million pound contract. Whatever that means. I sincerely want Leon to do well but I feel that some people only want to believe that he will be successful because of winning. It takes a lot of work for the so called professional and non-professional to succeed equally. With the media and fans/non fans going frantic with the 'fix' and who should have won. Does it really matter really? For me NO. It is what is done with the opportunities given that will bring success. Remember these reality shows are not what they seem most of the time. We are all manipulated and sometimes blackmailed into what they want us to believe and see. So its all about perception. May I add its more soap opera than about talent. Maybe Rhydian can write and play lead in a westend/broadway show about it. It will be fun. I think that all three finalisit should be grateful that at least they had exposure- maybe at the expense of their intergrity and talent but with great people behind them they will be successful in the end. And yes I am a Rhydian fan. And I believe he has more to gain not because of this 'professional bollocks' but determination, talent and hard work. Regards Babeth x ![]() The only point that I debate with you is the age old one that you feel that Rhydian is your hope....and yes I do agree. But your comments...positive, albeit slight for Leon ![]() As the winner as [Leon] has turned out, what are your thoughts? It is those that I think I would like to hold onto ![]() And of course, I wish Rhydian every success also
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I give it a couple of mouths
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I thought all of the contestants who went through to the final stages were weak.
Leon was voted the best of a bad bunch. Of course he will get the Christmas number one but after that I cannot see anything for him. If he is to put out an album then I feel it will have to be quickly because very few will wait around for a year to buy it. |
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I thought all of the contestants who went through to the final stages were weak.
Leon was voted the best of a bad bunch. Of course he will get the Christmas number one but after that I cannot see anything for him. If he is to put out an album then I feel it will have to be quickly because very few will wait around for a year to buy it. I bet you a million bucks that you are wrong. ![]() Seriously...the public will be waiting with open breath on Leon's new album....a year...two years........believe me, they will
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I bet you a million bucks that you are wrong.
![]() Seriously...the public will be waiting with open breath on Leon's new album....a year...two years........believe me, they will ![]() But do you not think his predominantly teen fanbase who are notoriously fickle (as Gareth Gates will testify) will have moved on to the next big thing by then (ie when the next series of X Factor begins) ?? I`m sure his older fans will wait around for his debut album but I`m yet to be convinced his young fans will buy an album of swing/jazz |
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That's just the thing, I think his appeal will be to a certain audience, not necessarily older but certainly to those who like his genre.
He will sell more albums than singles. Of course albums are a lot more important anyway but apart from the debut his singles might not actually do that well in the chart, like Norah Jones has never really had a major hit single but has sold millions of albums. Interesting that Kylie Minogue was mentioned earlier in this topic because I gave her maybe 2-3 years career at most, yet when the Stock Aitken Waterman bubble burst she refused to give up and moved on to new things and is still going strong now. Not everything she has done has been a big hit but she handles her failures well too. Of course, there often comes a time when the media backlash is just so great that they just can't have hits, no matter how good their new material is. And this tends to happen to artists who made it through reality TV or came from a manufactured pop background. A bit unfairly, perhaps. If Steve Brookstein released new material now, would anyone even bother to listen to it? |
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Leon's album will do middlingly well because of the next x Factor but after that he'll fade away. Shayne will also do one more album and that will be him finished too.
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Knock Knock
Who's There Leon Leon Who
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Knock Knock
Who's There Leon Leon Who ![]() Leon who is right as I doubt he will be remembered for very long bless. |
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But do you not think his predominantly teen fanbase who are notoriously fickle (as Gareth Gates will testify) will have moved on to the next big thing by then (ie when the next series of X Factor begins) ?? I`m sure his older fans will wait around for his debut album but I`m yet to be convinced his young fans will buy an album of swing/jazz
Llke Gareth Gates etc. their longevity as recording artists will be limieted because the fan base will grown up and their taste in music will change. |
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Leon's album will do middlingly well because of the next x Factor but after that he'll fade away. Shayne will also do one more album and that will be him finished too.
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That's just the thing, I think his appeal will be to a certain audience, not necessarily older but certainly to those who like his genre.
He will sell more albums than singles. Of course albums are a lot more important anyway but apart from the debut his singles might not actually do that well in the chart, like Norah Jones has never really had a major hit single but has sold millions of albums. Interesting that Kylie Minogue was mentioned earlier in this topic because I gave her maybe 2-3 years career at most, yet when the Stock Aitken Waterman bubble burst she refused to give up and moved on to new things and is still going strong now. Not everything she has done has been a big hit but she handles her failures well too. Of course, there often comes a time when the media backlash is just so great that they just can't have hits, no matter how good their new material is. And this tends to happen to artists who made it through reality TV or came from a manufactured pop background. A bit unfairly, perhaps. If Steve Brookstein released new material now, would anyone even bother to listen to it? Great post. ![]() No one knows how Leon's career will pan out regardless if he can sing or not. The power of marketing and as I have heard a Buble duet on the cards will do wonders for him perhaps. I am not a fan of Leon but this era is all about 'sound-like', 'answer to' 'the new' Buble/Sinatra there will be that kind of imitation/copy-cat market that some people buy into. Both young and old. Originality and creativity takes the back burner its a risk for many record companies. They are very few artist that could be called originals. Thats why there is a big turnover of new stars as most of them sound like each other. With record sales down the idea is to sell based on nostalgia and anchors (familiar sounds, beats, musical piece). This is my musical take on todays music and more. I will not comment further but for me artists that I have really loved as young girl to now are all originals. It says more about my musical ability, taste and personality. Regards Babeth x |
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Well maybe they should just go to all the stage schools, music colleges and agents in the country and just ask for people with X amount of training/experience to audition.
Oops forgot they probably do that..didn't Leona go to Italia Conti, Brit School etc My issue with him isnt really his voice, its his overall performance and presence. Some people like ryhdian and leona just have it with out much effort others just don't, its part of having the xfactor which rhydian has and leon hasn't. |
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The MacDonalds are doing very well in Scotland
![]() Leon could very well go the same way |
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I'm going for 1 year 6 months purely because he is now contracted for a year before he will get dumped like all the others by Simon's minions.
And all the silly people on the Appreciation Thread should feel ashamed that they are all playing a part in giving this poor guy false hope he is really THAT good!
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But the x factor isnt looking for the next big thing in scotland(only), it hopes to find 'stars', who can represent the whole of the UK. They have found one in leona and the trend could continued with rhydian but alas, it didn't. Leon would of had success in scotland, like the Macdonald's, he didnt need to win.
His connections to the world of his genre are cemented and will last a lot longer than Leon. Leon does not have the cache of Shayne and therefore will not lalst long. |
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