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Old 21-12-2007, 12:09
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So let me get this straight, according to this board

1. The result was fixed for Leon but Simon was gutted that he won? Surely it is one or the other.

2. Leon crying was pathetic but Rhydian crying was because he was overcome with emotion.

3. Leon only won because girls fancied him, but he is also revolting looking (bad teeth, legs etc)

4. People voted for Leon because they fancy him and of course no one voted for Rhydain for the same reason despite the endless threads about Ryhdian being fit, body parts etc..

5. People complained that Leon only won because of multiple voting which isn’t fair but also complained that they only got few a few times for Ryhdian and they wanted to cast some more votes.

6. You can’t believe a word the tabloids print unless of course you agree with it then it is gospel truth.

7 Leon/Ryhdian are the nicest/worst people in the world because you just know, despite the fact you have never met them and have no idea what they are really like.

8. Grannies, young girls etc shouldn’t have a vote, because they don’t vote the way you want them to, despite the fact that they are the main target audience for pop records.

9. Leon won because Scotland has a bigger population than Wales, despite the fact that Same Difference would have had 10 X as many English people voting for them because its population is 10X that of Scotland.

10. You don’t like Rhydian/Leon and therefore they must be rubbish. It couldn’t possibly be because it just isn’t your taste in music.

11. The complaints about the young girls winning it for Leon seem to be from posters who are certainly behaving like children themselves

I could go on and on and on and on and on…….

But I think you get the idea

Happy Christmas and let us hope the New Year brings you all some perspective. It was a Saturday Night Entertainment programme, it entertained and brought in huge audiences, nothing more nothing less. Why don’t some of you go and find something real to worry about like poverty, war, you know out in the real world, something that matters…

PEACE
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:13
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timetogetagrip, I really think that your #3 statement above is totally uncalled for!

If as you say Leon is revolting then Rhydian looks very odd... a newspaper said yesterday that he resembles a martian!
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:16
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timetogetagrip, the view must be lovely from that moral high ground you're standing on, out in the Real World

Perhaps you don't understand the purpose of a 'discussion board'? Clue: it's all in the title.

Happy Christmas to you too xx
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:18
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A merry Xmas to you timetogetagrip...think you summed up the madness of the last week pretty well.

Rhydian and Leon have both got what they wanted from XF - now it's down to the hard work to establish themselves.

I wish them both well.
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:18
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I think he was just saying a comparison of what posters have said in this forum ie Leon only won because young girls like him even though those same people have slated him because he looks [in their blimkered opinion] ugly.

IMO a great post summing up the situation... no doubt people will come on here protesting that it was still a fix
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:19
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timetogetagrip, the view must be lovely from that moral high ground you're standing on, out in the Real World

Perhaps you don't understand the purpose of a 'discussion board'? Clue: it's all in the title.

Happy Christmas to you too xx
Well theres a difference between people discussing things on a forum and people just spitting vitriol left right and centre about meaningless bollocks
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:19
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This is a discussion forum.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Of course, if you write all those opinions down in one post, they will conflict.

Why don't YOU find something else do do , if you are not interested in reading and debating the opinions of others?! Because, er, well, THAT'S WHAT WE DO!!!

Imagine a forum where nobody said anything but "I agree with timetogetagrip", "Oh yeah, me too", "Just thought I'd add that I'm with you all"!.....

Boring!

You are entitled to your opinion, like everyone else, but lighten up!

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Old 21-12-2007, 12:20
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timetogetagrip, I really think that your #3 statement above is totally uncalled for!

If as you say Leon is revolting then Rhydian looks very odd... a newspaper said yesterday that he resembles a martian!
I don't think he is revolting at all, I was quoting others on this Board. That was the point they were saying he was ugly etc but also saying he won becasue girls fancied him. If he was 20 years older or I was 20 years younger...

I think that beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:22
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timetogetagrip, the view must be lovely from that moral high ground you're standing on, out in the Real World
I too have been accused of moral high ground this week, just for attempting to point out that you've clearly all forgotten to take your medication.

Great post!
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:25
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timetogetagrip…what are you on about…this is a forum for discussion…people come on here to air their different views, that’s what makes it interesting.

Merry Christmas to you.
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:26
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Well theres a difference between people discussing things on a forum and people just spitting vitriol left right and centre about meaningless bollocks
I agree about the vitriol and will have nothing to do with it, but one man's meaningless bollocks is another man's absolute truth. That's what happens on discussion boards and to me it seems rather patronising for somebody to come in here and basically say 'hey, you're all disagreeing! Aren't you all silly!!'
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:27
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So let me get this straight, according to this board

1. The result was fixed for Leon but Simon was gutted that he won? Surely it is one or the other.

2. Leon crying was pathetic but Rhydian crying was because he was overcome with emotion.

3. Leon only won because girls fancied him, but he is also revolting looking (bad teeth, legs etc)

4. People voted for Leon because they fancy him and of course no one voted for Rhydain for the same reason despite the endless threads about Ryhdian being fit, body parts etc..

5. People complained that Leon only won because of multiple voting which isn’t fair but also complained that they only got few a few times for Ryhdian and they wanted to cast some more votes.

6. You can’t believe a word the tabloids print unless of course you agree with it then it is gospel truth.

7 Leon/Ryhdian are the nicest/worst people in the world because you just know, despite the fact you have never met them and have no idea what they are really like.

8. Grannies, young girls etc shouldn’t have a vote, because they don’t vote the way you want them to, despite the fact that they are the main target audience for pop records.

9. Leon won because Scotland has a bigger population than Wales, despite the fact that Same Difference would have had 10 X as many English people voting for them because its population is 10X that of Scotland.

10. You don’t like Rhydian/Leon and therefore they must be rubbish. It couldn’t possibly be because it just isn’t your taste in music.

11. The complaints about the young girls winning it for Leon seem to be from posters who are certainly behaving like children themselves

I could go on and on and on and on and on…….

But I think you get the idea

Happy Christmas and let us hope the New Year brings you all some perspective. It was a Saturday Night Entertainment programme, it entertained and brought in huge audiences, nothing more nothing less. Why don’t some of you go and find something real to worry about like poverty, war, you know out in the real world, something that matters…

PEACE
As much as I cannot STAND Leon, this is a fair post. Some posters on here are particularly hypocritical
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:27
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LOL Some have TOTALLY failed to read what the OP is saying. GREAT post!!!!!
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:27
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I agree about the vitriol and will have nothing to do with it, but one man's meaningless bollocks is another man's absolute truth. That's what happens on discussion boards and to me it seems rather patronising for somebody to come in here and basically say 'hey, you're all disagreeing! Aren't you all silly!!'
I think its more a highlight of the fact thats it the same people who are supporting both views
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:30
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I think its more a highlight of the fact thats it the same people who are supporting both views
Of course they are - according to whom they support. It's human nature, I'm afraid
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:31
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I think its more a highlight of the fact thats it the same people who are supporting both views
Isn't it ironic!
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:31
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timetogetagrip, the view must be lovely from that moral high ground you're standing on, out in the Real World

Perhaps you don't understand the purpose of a 'discussion board'? Clue: it's all in the title.

Happy Christmas to you too xx

The view is great thanks
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:33
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As much as I cannot STAND Leon, this is a fair post. Some posters on here are particularly hypocritical


Eureka

On both sides of course, no doubt similar things would have been posted if the result had been the other way round!
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:34
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The view is great thanks

*gasps* You mean - you're still here? Not out in the Real World tackling poverty & war??
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:35
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I agree about the vitriol and will have nothing to do with it, but one man's meaningless bollocks is another man's absolute truth. That's what happens on discussion boards and to me it seems rather patronising for somebody to come in here and basically say 'hey, you're all disagreeing! Aren't you all silly!!'

But that isn't what I said . Disagreeing discussion
livley debate

vitriolic and hyporicital rubbish
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:35
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*gasps* You mean - you're still here? Not out in the Real World tackling poverty & war??

Oh that is just the day job We all need some fun
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:38
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Oh that is just the day job We all need some fun
How I wish you'd gone "on and on and on....".
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:49
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LOL Some have TOTALLY failed to read what the OP is saying. GREAT post!!!!!
Let's face it Tl, that's par for the course on this board this series..

I agree, what a fantastic post. And sooooo true!
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Old 21-12-2007, 12:52
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that is a very funny post.
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Old 21-12-2007, 17:22
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Good post! And some of the reactions were too!
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