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Rhyd: Dannii hates me
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grimtales1
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Mootle:
“Excuse me Yma, but didn't the great Simon Cowell say Rhydian was world class?”

I think he said "potentially world class" - certainly Rhydian is streets ahead of typical reality TV contestants IMO.
SGE
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“No,she did I've got that interview myself. I think you can find it on youtube. She was playing with a mind reader. He asked her is he was her fav and she replied yes

As for Dannii who I'm a huge fan of, she has been talking aobut him in lots of media articles, in Australia and to her fans. In fact, people here also accused her of talking to much about Rhydian, remember that?”


If that's true, and I'm not totally convinced it is 100%, then you can't blame the girl. I'm 49, male and straight and I've been going on about him for weeks (out of character for me as well!). There's just something interestingly mesmeric (you see what I did there? ) about the bloke.
marianner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“He has not slagged anyone off - quite the opposite, he always praises everyone. He just said he wasn't sure if Dannii liked him, he felt they were on a different wavelength. But he said he loves her, she is beautiful and they became closer as the show progressed. The interview was given before the final and had nothing to do with Leon's victory.”


I don't think he's praising with his comments
It just sounds like it's dipped in whipped cream for not to make it sounds like harsh
SGE
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“I think he said "potentially world class" - certainly Rhydian is streets ahead of typical reality TV contestants IMO.”


He certainly did, and that was only the second week of the Live Finals. He also called his Bridge Over... performance 'bloody fantastic'. I've never watched X factor before (although it's always been on in the background due to Mrs SGE being a regular viewer) so couldn't answer this, but has he ever said that about any other act?
grimtales1
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“He certainly said after one performance (I *think* it was Somewhere) that that was the first time time somebody had done that apart from Leona in the last series 'it was THAT good'. Simon clearly believes him to be a major major talent, it's up to him to help him become a superstar.”

I think it was after You Raise Me Up, I can't actually remember if he called Leona world-class, but after YRMU he said to Rhydian "There is only one other time I can remember somebody doing what you did, and that was Leona Lewis, last year".
Liz G-S
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“I don't think he's praising with his comments
It just sounds like it's dipped in whipped cream for not to make it sounds like harsh”

So you call his comments to Leon when he had just lost the final 'not only a brilliant singer but a fantastic guy - a great character who will go far - a world class singer' is not praise.
marianner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“If that's true, and I'm not totally convinced it is 100%, then you can't blame the girl. I'm 49, male and straight and I've been going on about him for weeks (out of character for me as well!). There's just something interestingly mesmeric (you see what I did there? ) about the bloke.”

sounds like you're looking for a partner in this post
But yes, I got it

Here's a link. There are two so I'm not sure in which she says it.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JDRV16Gq-D8
neelia
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“So you call his comments to Leon when he had just lost the final 'not only a brilliant singer but a fantastic guy - a great character who will go far - a world class singer' is not praise.”

That Rhyd is such a mean bastard
marianner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“So you call his comments to Leon when he had just lost the final 'not only a brilliant singer but a fantastic guy - a great character who will go far - a world class singer' is not praise.”

Maybe he did, but I also heard that he slagged him off.
I don't see his praise sorry,no.
Just someone who makes sure to say the right things
SGE
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“sounds like you're looking for a partner in this post
But yes, I got it

Here's a link. There are two so I'm not sure in which she says it.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JDRV16Gq-D8”


How very dare you! Been very happily married for 25 years, have 2 sons, the eldest is the same age as Leon, funnily enough. He can't sing (my son, btw, before anyone gets uppity )
marianner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“How very dare you! Been very happily married for 25 years, have 2 sons, the eldest is the same age as Leon, funnily enough. He can't sing (my son, btw, before anyone gets uppity )”


Good for you! I'm a sucker for romance so i'm really happy you're still going strong
grimtales1
22-12-2007
I'm 25, male, straight and think Rhydian has been superb
diamond1
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by SGE:
“How very dare you! Been very happily married for 25 years, have 2 sons, the eldest is the same age as Leon, funnily enough. He can't sing (my son, btw, before anyone gets uppity )”


Nice to see you back and in top form SGE
Liz G-S
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“Maybe he did, but I also heard that he slagged him off.
I don't see his praise sorry,no.
Just someone who makes sure to say the right things”

When have you actually seen him slagging Leon off. He never has - that is one of the reasons Hope loved him, because he never had a bad word to say about anyone. Anyway, what is praise if it isn't saying kind words and finding the right thing to say at the right time - should he bow to Leon. He obviously can't do anything right for you so your opinion is clouded.
This is not a criticism of Leon on my part but I am interested to hear your opinion, how do you find the fact that Leon has yet to be seen on tape saying something nice about Rhydian - or is that your idea of real and honest praise, no words or gestures.
marianner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“When have you actually seen him slagging Leon off. He never has - that is one of the reasons Hope loved him, because he never had a bad word to say about anyone. Anyway, what is praise if it isn't saying kind words and finding the right thing to say at the right time - should he bow to Leon. He obviously can't do anything right for you so your opinion is clouded.
This is not a criticism of Leon on my part but I am interested to hear your opinion, how do you find the fact that Leon has yet to be seen on tape saying something nice about Rhydian - or is that your idea of real and honest praise, no words or gestures.”

I'm not a fan of either boys but I did read nice comments from Leon on his own website and I've seen him on brief news reports and he admires Rhydians voice. I think He said in the Daily Record also that he's very close to him and wants to continue to be.
As I said, to me, both guys are talented but this topic was about Dannii and that's why I replied. I didn't think he was nice there
mitacond
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“Maybe he did, but I also heard that he slagged him off.
I don't see his praise sorry,no.
Just someone who makes sure to say the right things”

Rhydian and Leon were friends in the X factor house.
Rhydian has never slagged as you put it Leon.

Leon and Rhyd would hate to here this as they know it is not true.
Motown lover
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by nickynoodle167:
“There has only been one world class act on X Factor, and their name began with the letters L E O and N and they won. ”



grimtales1
22-12-2007
Does this seem insecurity on Rhyd's part? Although Dannii didnt like him at the start, she's seemingly been nice to him, and was whispering in his ear (probably trying to comfort him) on Xtra Factor, Rhydian has said she's lovely and they shared a kiss (doesnt mean they fancy each other though).
Eurostar
22-12-2007
All of this on the same day that Louis brands Dannii 'a fake' and 'an actress'......it's not been a good day for her in the press.
Liz G-S
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“I'm not a fan of either boys but I did read nice comments from Leon on his own website and I've seen him on brief news reports and he admires Rhydians voice. I think He said in the Daily Record also that he's very close to him and wants to continue to be.
As I said, to me, both guys are talented but this topic was about Dannii and that's why I replied. I didn't think he was nice there”

I'm sure Leon has said nice things to the press. He is not as articulate as Rhydian and is still overwhelmed by the live interview situation - that is why he always looks at the floor, he is feeling awkward and embarrassed.
I'm just saying Rhydian gets criticised for being such a lovely guy when asked about the other contestants who I'm sure are touched by his wonderful words. For some people, he can do no right and fault is found where there is none. In this case, it is claimed he is only saying the right thing but doesn't mean it, a claim that is based on no facts whatsoever.
marianner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“I'm sure Leon has said nice things to the press. He is not as articulate as Rhydian and is still overwhelmed by the live interview situation - that is why he always looks at the floor, he is feeling awkward and embarrassed.
I'm just saying Rhydian gets criticised for being such a lovely guy when asked about the other contestants who I'm sure are touched by his wonderful words. For some people, he can do no right and fault is found where there is none. In this case, it is claimed he is only saying the right thing but doesn't mean it, a claim that is based on no facts whatsoever.”

Things aren't black and white so yes, Rhydian has not been portayed nicely in the media, but I do think he's insecure which can put him in trouble if he's not careful. He was hated for no reason to begin with.
Dannii helped him trough and how to handle bad press as she's also hated by some simply for being a sister.
She now shakes it off easily knowing it's nothing to do with her, but I can imagine for Rhydian who's just started, it's a lot harder.
cute chick
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“This is not a criticism of Leon on my part but I am interested to hear your opinion, how do you find the fact that Leon has yet to be seen on tape saying something nice about Rhydian - or is that your idea of real and honest praise, no words or gestures.”

I've never heard Leon say anything unkind about Rhydian. In fact, I've never heard Leon bad-mouthing anyone.
stc
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by marianner:
“Maybe he did, but I also heard that he slagged him off.
I don't see his praise sorry,no.
Just someone who makes sure to say the right things”

hmm, well we follow press stuff on Rhyd pretty closely in the RAT and I think I can say pretty categorically that Rhydian has never, ever slagged Leon off publically. From what I can tell, neither has Leon about Rhyd. This whole thing is turning into a ridiculous attempt at character assassination.
neelia
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by stc:
“hmm, well we follow press stuff on Rhyd pretty closely in the RAT and I think I can say pretty categorically that Rhydian has never, ever slagged Leon off publically. From what I can tell, neither has Leon about Rhyd. This whole thing is turning into a ridiculous attempt at character assassination.”

Indeed they both seem to be nice (in all sences of the word) young lads
kyri
22-12-2007
Atleast he knows that the praise of Louis and Simon is all that matters.
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