as three of the judges are now`saying gethin should have gone through then the producers should see to it he is`allowed to do a show dance with camilla the public would love it and it would be a sort of apology

Yes. And sack Len BADman

Seeing as they're already rehearsing the show with Matt & Alesha as the finalists... and Gethin and Camilla haven't even worked out a showdance... I don't think that's very likely, do you?

If the judges had really wanted Gethin to go through, they could have voted for him instead of Matt in the dance off last week. They could have used the same criteria that Arlene used... that Gethin improved his performance the most between the show and the dance-off. But they didn't. Three of them voted for Matt. 7 days ago!

Agreed.

But I'm not holding my breath.

And sack the producers for encouraging blatant favouritism.

yeh if they really wanted gethin in the final that much they could of made it happen but didnt think there just feeling guilty, they chose matt and its not really doing anything for his confidence is it them going around saying it should be gethin instead of him. They chose matt and they shouldnt now be going back on it......... would be good if they did get gethin to do a showdance but dont think they have prepared anything so V.unlikely its going to happen!

yeh agree with that the judges should stick by their choice as you said i think they are just feeling guilty and making excuses,

its time we knew the actual size of the public vote the fact the judges know and we dont allows them to skew the vote the way they want carig said the public vote is psychologically challenged well his self awreness is even more challenged who ever encouraged himto sing twice this week iwas nuts it was hard to keep you food down he must never be allowed to dstroy a song again, as for gethin well hes the unsung hero in all this and has never bad mouthed anyone in the case of the rest its treachery back stabbing every body to blame but them i urge everyone to read the telegraph and read what len said about the public this panel needs to get a grip or go

I've missed something - which judges have said Gethin should have gone through and why?

I think <if I`ve got this correctly!> the judges do feel they put the best dancer through on the night but blame the public for keeping Matt in the week before ?

I was wondering that too!

craig said matt cant cut it and has changed his mind,len says its publics fault and matt should have gone two weeks ago arlene voted for gethin and has stuck by her decision read to days tele graph

I agree. Brucie said on radio when I was still abed that he had spoken to the producers to ask if they couldn't let all three couples do the final and they said rules were rules and they couldn't change them. That was sweet of Brucie wasnt it? Its really nice that they're having Kelly dance tonight and it would have been nice for Gethin as well.

Summat like that.

If only it was so cut and dry ...

Craig and Bruno chose Matt in last week's dance-off. Arlene chose Gethin. With his casting vote, Len chose Matt.

In Tuesday's ITT, Philip Jackson questioned Len's decision, pointing out errors Matt made in his dance-off waltz, and saying Gethin upped his game. These are things Arlene must have clocked for her to make the decision she did.

In an interview with The Guardian, when asked if he thought the right dancers made it through to the final, Len said no, probably not - then blamed the public for the sympathy vote that carried Matt through the quarter finals - implying that if Matt had been in the dance-off, he'd've been toast.

If Len genuinely felt that Matt wasn't right for the final, he therefore could've chosen Gethin when making his casting vote. Instead, he chose Matt ...

Go figure.

Or ask the producers - if they'd give you a straight answer.

the producers allowed the judges to mark the prevoius perfomance not the dance off the producers are spinelss to and should have made amernds one way or they other yet another bbc fixing scandal

Why would you believe everything you read in the papers? So many times I have read stuff about strictly in the news and later found it to be a load of tosh.

The judges actually said Matt should have gone on his bad week, and the public decided otherwise, so that's tough for the judges, they get their bit to give points and the viewers get theirs to vote. The viewers don't tell the judges how to give out points and vice versa should be the same. They made their choice for the final and need to stand by it and stop whinging if they are. If they can't make their minds up as judges and go back on stuff, then they are rubbish at the job they are paid for then.

Matt got through, Gethin didn't. The best dancer of the two got through, nothing will change that, end of. In my opinion the best man got through. Whether Matt and Flavia win is not the be all and end all as making the finals has made me happy for them both

Matt D A had many chances to say on TV he regretted events outside his control. Instead he expressed himself delighted to be "let off" a dance-off against Letitia. The last chance for reconciliation went.

SCD is damaged, and the Final sadder.

Where on earth did Matt D say he got let off? And why should he apologise for the publics faith in him. Matt is a better dancer than Letitia and he has proved that with stunning semi final dances. The final will be all the better for having the two 'Best' dance couples in it, and although I prefer Matt & Flavia, I would be just as happy for Alesha and Matt to win if that were to be the outcome.

Craig also said on last nights ITT that 'Matt has dance talent, is a fantastic dancer and is the equal of Alesha' - so I think he's position is quite clear.

Arlene on the same show also said something similar, can't remember the exact words but it was something like both dancers have excellent technical ability and performance.

From those comments I think they are quite happy with the final two - whilst recognising that Matt is extremly fortunate not to have been voted out two weeks ago.

Last Saturday Matt on TV thanked his voters for getting him into the semi-final. "Let off" were the words Matt used asking for votes on Meltdown Saturday in the backroom in front of Tess.

Both clips are on VT, verbatim. They ought to be on YouTube. Can someone find them please? If not accurate, please come back and I shall apologize.

Sorry Susann but I can't agree with you, however, you are entitled to your opinion and are obviously a Matt fan. I feel that a hugh mistake was made last week and once the BBC realised the backlash from it, they should have done the decent thing and reistated Gethin for a three couple final. I feel that they have made tonight's final a bit of a non event and I am not really bothered about watching it. I do feel sorry for Matt because he must know what people are saying so I hope that he does well but for me I want Alesha to win.

I am the ultimate cynic. I believe that the four tens, together with Bruno's '10' for a dance containing an illegal lift, were scripted in for the sake of controversy. I found Craig's reasons for giving the '10' unconvincing. We had all been saying that he was the one reasonable and consistent judge. I think the BBC as represented by the makers of SCD are totally unrepentant.

:yawn::yawn: I can't take this post really serious


Why didn't I hear people talking about that the week Laetitia left it only became something after Gethin and Camilla left .

Because Gethin was clearly robbed!!!!

Don't be sorry for having a point of view. I don't look for agreement with my posts, only to get my views across. Yes I am a fan of Matt and Flavia's dancing, I don't state otherwise in my posts.

I don't see how it can be a mistake last week if the public had faith in Matt & Flavia and kept them in, and it is nothing to do with the BBC if a few Gething fans are throwing their dummies out their prams and running to them with emails. I doubt the BBC is unhappy with the two finalists they have no matter what some may want to believe.

I think tonights final will be brilliant, however if you don't wish to watch it because you are upset with Matt D making the final instead of your preferred choice, then that is your privilidge.

I doubt Matt wants pity and knows he is a good dancer and that their will always be a favoured finalist with the media in any show, so will already know he is not the favourite to win, but I am sure he will be as brilliant as ever and that is what will count with the viewers. Also this and other forums will not be indictive of how the general public watching the show will see it. There ar probably many who will be watching and looking forward to this evenings show, not sulking whether their favourites made the final or not.